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Jackcat 87 Reviews 1728 reads
posted
1 / 21

Ok, a previous posting inspired  this question. How many of you guys have had providers who were unable or unwilling to perform expected services? What happened next/ what did you do?
I’m not being frivolous here. I’m fairly new to this hobby, and was surprised to find it has happened to me more than once. ( twice in the last two weeks, in fact).  Given the legal fiction/ boilerplate that “donations are solely for my time”,  I assume that other than a truthful, and less than glowing review, there is nothing that can be done without buy-in from the provider, right?
Providers are welcome to comment, of course.

holystonethedeck 104 Reviews 74 reads
posted
2 / 21

I've seen a few ladies (maybe two or three, tops)  who didn't kiss even though that did seem to be SOP based on reviews.

 
I didn't push the issue and would never try to force or cajole a woman into doing anything she felt uncomfortable with, so I just made do and didn't see them again. I would consider just about everything to be YMMV.

Jackcat 87 Reviews 59 reads
posted
3 / 21

Sadly, my friend, I’m beginning to see that, too..
But the next time I pay $400+ airfare, that damn plane better get off the ground and get me where I’m going…

holystonethedeck 104 Reviews 92 reads
posted
4 / 21

As I said it's been pretty rare in my experience, fortunately. The vast majority of ladies I've seen have lived up to expectations and were worthwhile to see, and some have been truly outstanding.

brownjack 62 reads
posted
5 / 21

the risk with "expecting" certain activities, is that you may be basing those expectations on possible errors in the memory, perception (or, outright lies) of previous reviewers.

 
When you say 'unwilling', is that because you inquired and were turned down?  If not, the lack of performance may not be a function of 'unwilling'.  But more a function of 'unaware'.

 
As for what to do next, if you inquired and was refused, there is not much that you can do.  Except, as you suggested, make it clear in your review, that activities stated in her profile or reviews, were not available.

 
Further, depending on the activity, 'unable' and 'unwilling' may have different or overlapping causes.  'Unable' may just be a function of bad timing (illness, menstruation, injury, etc.).  These circumstances may also result in a provider being 'unwilling'.

Steve_Trevor 57 reads
posted
6 / 21

but there was always a good reason, eg that time of the month, or during the pandemic there were a couple of providers who normally exchange saliva but weren’t comfortable doing it then.  

 
On the happy flip side, there’s been many more times when a provider was able and willing to perform unexpected services with me.

Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 61 reads
posted
7 / 21

Have you read the list of services that she provided?

36363jensen 4 Reviews 60 reads
posted
8 / 21

It seems your experience is much different than mine, and most of the other responders. I would even venture to say most other TER members.

 
I agree with what others have said but would add:
1) If your experience is a bit out of the norm look at what you're doing as well. You do mention being fairly new. How are you finding the ladies? How do you vet them? Regardless of the price, were all the providers really offering the same type of experience? Perhaps there were some subtle signals for the one's that failed to meet your expectations that those things were really not in the repertoire?
2) What are the services you're really mentioning? Are these generally expected services or just what you expect?
3) Maybe it is something about you -- could be something like you smoke and the lady doesn't want to kiss because of that. How well do you groom and prepare for the meeting (fresh breath or lunch breath)?  

 
Just some thought to consider.

Jackcat 87 Reviews 62 reads
posted
9 / 21

I’m gonna try to be brief. My hygiene is impeccable, clothes are clean, I don’t smoke, and my oral hygiene is that of a dentist. I have never asked for anything out of the ordinary. In fact, every provider that has failed to provide services, has advertised those services as what are available. I told these providers what I wanted before  and during the encounter. If you go in expecting what providers have normally done, and it doesn’t happen, that’s not my fault. I use TER to check reviews. I’m not asking for anything unusual. Just routine stuff.  
The only thing I can blame it on is the early hour of the appointment. That is something I cannot change, but all have agreed to beforehand. And I was grateful for their acceptance.
Some have been well reviewed at later hour appointments.  
I am not doing any of those things that you brought up. The providers’ failure to do those things that everyone else here has written up in their reviews of the same providers, is not of my doing. But you can be sure they all were paid before the appointment got underway. So, don’t blame me.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 95 reads
posted
10 / 21

I have asked dozens of providers this same question, i.e., whether they ever limit their profile menu with some customers.  Both indies and Kgirls have overwhelmingly responded the same way. . . . . It all comes down to hygiene.  Bad oral hygiene will remove DFK from the menu, and a stinky dick will remove or limit BBBJ.  They say many guys claim they showered just before they left home, but it turns out they stopped someplace and used the toilet on the way.  This leaves smells behind that make certain activities unpleasant for the provider.  (Women generally have a more acute sense of smell than men).  Most will pass on guys who want rimming but their ass smells like they just took a dump.  

 
This can all be fixed by requesting a shower AT THE INCALL at the time you book with an indie.  I've never been turned down for a shower when requesting it while making the appointment.  With Kgirls, they will always suggest it, and you turn it down at your own risk of losing menu items.  Likewise, just because you swished a little mouthwash doesn't cancel the stench of gum disease, which is back in five minutes, or the look of stained, rotten teeth.  If you want a GFE-style DFK. take care of your dental issues for long term, not just for five minutes.  You obviously get it, Jack, but many customers don't according to providers I know who are speaking frankly.

-- Modified on 5/30/2023 1:13:30 PM

Jackcat 87 Reviews 52 reads
posted
11 / 21

Of course, none of this applies to me.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 60 reads
posted
12 / 21

I was not trying to blame you of anything. I pointed out some things to think about as examples but don't think they should be considered comprehensive.

 
But if you're going to say I'm the guy that always has some different result than everyone else I think you're kind of stuck with the question "What am I missing?" to answer. It might be that something about the early morning (when are you scheduling?) has something to do with it but I don't see why that would be the case. Could be something I'm missing -- just like guys that want COF but don't want an end of the day appointment as some providers require.

 
Could also be that you're missing some queue when reading the review that others here have developed intuitions about reviews being true and reliable versus sales pitches. Or as some have suggested, maybe you just have bad timing and bad luck.

 
I think the question of early hour might be worth exploring some, particularly as that also implies you're dealing with a subset of the provider community. I'm on pretty good terms with some providers that I've been seeing for years, we exchange Christmas and B-Day presents but I don't think I would get an appointment outside their work schedule. The providers that pretty much say I can support any time of day are in the minority. I suspect you'll find those doing that skew to bother the better end of the spectrum and the lower end of the spectrum in terms of quality of service. At 400 you're not really paying a premium.

 
You might also just ask the provider next time you experience it. Make sure you broach to topic in a very neutral way. Hell, you might even learn that what's happening is that they don't want to get up too early and just never had time to brush their teeth before you showed up so they are protecting you from their morning breath.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 57 reads
posted
13 / 21

I said that you get it, some others don't.  

holystonethedeck 104 Reviews 70 reads
posted
14 / 21

A few times I've seen ladies whose profiles and reviews said CBJ only, yet when I saw them they went down on me bare. That's always a pleasant surprise.

Foodyguy 29 Reviews 62 reads
posted
15 / 21

Hey drill instructor, I am not out of step the rest of the platoon is out of step.

Jackcat 87 Reviews 52 reads
posted
16 / 21

It’s always amusing to see who gets snarky or goes all simple behind a keyboard. I asked if anyone else has had this weirdness and what came of it. First it was not getting a provider to show or accept. an 8 am appt( because that’s all that’s available to me) ) with my schedule . Then the ones who agree, but act as if the early morning hour was Kryptonite. They can’t or won’t consummate penetrative sex. When that’s been advertised as part of the service. I’m not paying for intercourse, and settling for a quick bj or hj. Nothing to do with hygiene whatsoever. And yes, my reading comprehension skills are far beyond any mental colossus suggesting otherwise.  
Some of the guys here don’t have anything positive or helpful to add to an honest conversation, so they try to sound clever, and fail miserably.

John_Laroche 58 reads
posted
17 / 21

is a monger should go home and write an honest review.
Otherwise, little you can do about the situation.

636sd 57 reads
posted
18 / 21

I went to a stripclub in Miami summertime, took a shower right before I went there, had 3 beers and a girl offered to take into one of the rooms for a BJ (paid of course). I took my pants off, and by God the humidity there had totally undone all my showering. I paid the girl and took off. I could not in good conscience let her suck me off.  

But agreed .... when I hear some stories from girls about clients showing up with literal shit in their crack it's terrible. If anything the hobby has make me more self conscious about hygiene because encounters are always planned. These days if I pick up a girl at a bar, I always tell them we need to shower first....in a fun way of course...

badger48 153 Reviews 61 reads
posted
19 / 21

lap swim in the morning. Finished, I mostly rinsed off, but soaped up specific areas for a better cleaning.
The incall that night was very close to the house, so my pre-session shower was about 50 mins before arriving.
At our meeting, and this surprised me, the Kgirl asked if I had been swimming that day!
Talk about a sensitive sense of smell. Some of these girls are like blood hounds^^!
It didn't hurt the session at all, we did a mini preview session and then into a playful shower!

cks175 51 Reviews 57 reads
posted
20 / 21

Without any detail, it’s difficult to come to any conclusions that would lead to well informed comment.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 62 reads
posted
21 / 21

chlorine is one of those scents that people around you will notice, but you don't if you are a regular swimmer.  I learned this in high school when I thought I didn't need to take a shower after an hour in the pool, and then afterward got called out for smelling like "bleach", mostly by women.  At least no one asked me if I had been cleaning up a crime scene.  Lol

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