I am adopting a new rule on my greek rates.

Bigger, thicker and longer lasting a guy claims to be, more expensive my ass is now.

Do you think the greek rates are fair? I cannot ask the same rates for --- example --- a guy who is 6x3 and needs to bang 10 minutes to pop and a guy who is 10x6 and needs a whole hour of banging my poor ass to cum.

I am changing my BDG banging policies --- Do you think I am wrong?

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Never let someone do greek the whole time. You should make them do the pussy first and always first. Then let them finish off with Greek. That is when you give them your patented squeeze.

If the guy is doing greek for more than 20 minutes something is wrong. He needs to be decent and stop.

The only providers that I know that charge extra for a guy being big are CL providers. I here stories like that from time to time.

There are some providers who put a statement on their site that they have to right to decline greek. It is not worth it put yourself at risk.

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I don't even like basic "surcharges" for anal.

You do what you want BDG; but IMO; an inflating hat size should be more of a concern than your client’s penis size.  

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Well, since I have a bit of the girth you are speaking of I have been used to not seeking anal my whole life.  I even refused it once when I was with a lady who I felt was too intoxicated to make a correct decision at the time.  I did have anal sex with her later when we were both completely sober.  I have had anal sex twice in my life and once was with a lady that was barely 5' 100lbs.  

So, to answer your question, I don't seek anal out so I won't pay extra for it.  My size brings me some special times they just don't usually happen to include anal.  I enjoyed it both times but it wasn't that big of a deal.  I would rather stick to things we can both enjoy than hurt a lady even if she thinks anal is a good idea at the time.

I think it is perfectly reasonable.  It has walways seemed to be an extra to begin with.  If it takes longer(and is more difficult for you)then it should cost more

If most of your clients are in the latter group, then makes sense to have a surcharge (or just increase your rates).  If most are in the former group or if it's 50/50 doesn't it even itself out?

Kate

Since I get turned down on the girth issue with many who perform, I don't ask, but I won't turn it down if the lady is into it and doesn't mind that it make take me longer to pop, but I am above all, very gentle and unless urged on, I take it very slow. So, surcharge by size is a no-no, but I agree, increase your rate in general if greek is on the menu. Why go home with arse spasms and tears if you believe you are not be fairly compensated?

I don't ask for extra for Greek, but I do reserve the right to say no if I think a God was a bit too generous to a gentleman. There aren't many that I am unable to accommodate though. Additionally, I limit the frequency that I allow Greek because no matter how modest a man's member is, over time, too much Greek is not a good thing. I do however, LOVE it - in moderation.

You might try simply pacing yourself, and if a particular session was a bit over the top, give it a rest for a few days. I find that as long as I do Greek no more than a few times a week, I never experience any problems with it.

Are you joking?  I see the smily icon, but given some other posts where you noted "Vitamin V addicts," I don't think you're joking.

You could do it by having differential rates, but that would seem to invite "estimates" and haggling.  The funny thing is, you might actually get guys to argue that their cocks are smaller than you claim.  I know I probably would.  That would be some pretty funny haggling as you get out the ruler and the tape measure-- which is why I'm asking, are you serious?  

Then you'll get into arguments about how long he took to pop.  

You could charge by "mileage" based on length and girth.  I could imagine these calculations: suppose his cock is an 8x4.  He goes for 30 minutes and cyclic thrust rate (CTR) of 45 per minute.  That's 8x4x30x45.  That's 43,200 cumulative inches per session with him.  Dividing that by 36 inches per yard that's 1200 yards.  So, that's 2/3's a mile.  (Hell, I'm getting horny now!)  I think that most guys should reasonably cum after 400 cumulative yards at most.  So, you'll set your base price there and then an extra $50 for every 100 yards after that. You know, I might just invent a meter that measures this for providers!

Seriously now, BDG, it's one thing that he have as many pops as he can do during a session.  He should leave you as happy as possible, but you're not obligated for his money to have him injure you till he pops.  Just make sure your clients understand that you could only go so far with greek, YMMV, if it doesn't bring them to climax before you're in a world of hurt, then it's time to do something else.  You have to swallow you pride tell him when he's done.  Greek is dangerous anyway, much moreso if you need an ambulance when he's done.  With AIDS, he should be happy any woman will offer it.  

Can I still get back to finding out if you enjoy any of either scenario?  or is it pretty much a service that you put up with providing?  The impression from the phrasing of the Q- is that you might better want to floss  or read a book.

I am a little intrigued by the act and may want to sample it, but the idea that it might be in any way painful or unwanted by my partner is repellant..,.

she enjoys it go for it. However, this endless pounding is inconsiderate and while this is a service it still should be a mutually enjoyable experience.

After we've visited all the rest of the world then we visit Greece. I've learned that if I hop on cowgirl, it's the most comfortable, still visual for the gent AND most enjoyable for me for any size. The gent is happy that he's getting to visit the Greek Isles and I'm having a great time too.

You shouldn't offer it at all if you don't like it. It's tough on the body even when you do.

Naughtily yours,
Anneke
PS...here's a question. I've been reading reviews and I see all these 9's and 10's for performance with some girls yet there is no Greek offered or performed. It's my understanding that that is part of the criteria for those high scores. How is this so then?

The base top score for any review is a "7"...extra points are then added for certain activities, ie: greek, DFK, BBBJ, really Bi, etc.

So if there is a review with a baseline of a 7, where the lady performed BBJ, DFK and was really Bi, giving one point each for each of those activities she would qualify for a "10" without Greek needing to be on the menu.

Anneke,

From the TER Review FAQ's:

'...please try to save the 8 and 9 ranks for situations where out of the ordinary services are provided (i.e.  Blow Job - without condom, Kissing with tongue, Really Bi, More than one guy). Each of these, beyond-the-call-of-duty talents count for one hard earned point.  Of course, the 10 rating should be reserved for an experience that is really worth a million!'

And...

'Ratings above 7 are reserved for providers who render services that are considered to be real perks (i.e. Anal, BBBJ, Kissing with Tongue).'

So while offering anal is a service worthy of a 9 or a 10 rating it is not a requirement as BBBJ, double partners and kiss with tongue are items to increase the rating from 7.  Also note that a hobbyist does not have to actually experience the service to render the higher rating.  E.g. If a particular service is offered by a lady and the client does not engage in it then the high rating can still be given.    


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Lets attempt to define size first.

Zinaval's mileage calculation seems to concentrate on the " total " including the amount of cycles, which while probably more accurate in its own way, it could be a bit distracting to keep the accounting up to date.

I would offer the displacement method of size calculation. The only tool required is one
" large " graduated beaker of water. The male places his to be measured tool into the beaker and the displaced amount of water can be accurately measured. Of course measuring can be a bit difficult if you wish to measure in the fully erect mode.

There are a few points that need to be further discussed to be totally accurate, such as, if the male has an extremely large head and narrow shaft, the technique to be used in the actual event, and of course the desire to participate and size of the lady.

I'm not sure if I really want to do all these scientific exercises preceding a usually enjoyable event. Maybe we should just stick with the YMMV method that has worked for centuries.

Cause I don't get it.  Never really been able to get into greek..... it just seems so???   soo????   "gay?"

Closest I come is K-9!  lol....  I have a civie female friend who is into it big time... in fact she cannot get off unless her ass is slapped and penetrated.... and I just don't get it.  While I can (on occasion) go banging away for a while, somehow - just the thought of BD limps me out....

so help me here, what is the big deal?!   lol!

BJ's as a gay activity?  

In all seriousness, I get your drift a bit.  I'm not a really into it either in terms of being an activity that I look forward to enjoying with a lady.  Although I have never engaged in it with a provider, I have had a few experiences in the civvy world.  Some okay, some fantastic but none were bad.  The best ones were spontaneous, heat of the moment events that had a clear cut 'this is so wrong' edge to it.  But like yourself, given a choice, I would much rather enjoy the inner heaven of a vag....      



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BDG has made it clear in earlier posts (and with her handle obviously) that she likes Greek.  She just doesn't want the extra collateral damage from well-hung studs who for whatever reason can't cum till she needs stitches.

Hadn't tried that. But you offer great advice and it's practical too... as for the 9s and 10s for me it about overall service and not the actions per se. I do think that good F/S is worth a ten if you go slobbering into the night. A young latina in Chicago turned me out on a visit there last winter. She was awesome for a relative newbie.

I agree that a 10 shouldn't be predicated on whether or not the provider did allow or offered greek. I know there are plenty of experiences without it that are mind blowing. For me personally, it's a different delight on the menu not a steady diet.  

Again, YMMV.

Many thanks and happy trips around the world,
Anneke

Greek in CG position is the BEST! Particularly with someone that I've never engaged in Greek with before. Not only is the sensation awesome, it is also a trust thing. Nothing kills the mood like an over eager schoolboy who starts banging away right out of the gate before I've had a chance to relax and enjoy the sensations. In CG, I can control the pace and take my time getting ready for that all out banging that is so much fun but takes time to work up to.

I think your idea is great. It might be darn near free! LOL

Just curious.
Charges by L&G for Greek
Would compensation also be offered for each Orgasm the client brings forth for you?  Just as an example, Joe Blow is 10x6 = 60 x by 60 minutes lets call that a one hour Greek for 360.00
The client gets you off four times in the hour whilst pounding away in the rear echelon... value put at 10 roses per big O... 40 roses discount so total for session is $320.00
Now of course I am being selfish here, as the way I figure it I would walk out of the session ahead.
(:

I am tired of this minimum wage shit... am worth a lot more... squeeze me.
sgandolfs

Does this position make it easier on a woman for men with larger cocks?

greek in CG is fine but, most of the times guys ask me:

Am I in your pussy or ass?

They cannot tell the difference because they cannot see the action lol

Now, with a reverse CG ------- ohhhh is great and gives the guy a full view or my ass going in and out SLOOOOOOOOOOOWLY.

Actually drive them nuts ---- literally.

I can accomodate small, medium and large ---- the problem is with the XXXX large guys who cannot cum and need to bang forever.

If a lady charges extra for it, it would indicate to me that she likely doesn't enjoy it.
If she doesn't enjoy it, why on earth would I ask her to do it at all??

Not necessarily. Some women ask for an additional donation for Greek even though they do enjoy it simply because adding an additonal donation decreases demand for it. Greek is something that despite being very enjoyable, is hard on the body, and should not be done frequently. I have considered many times doing just that for that reason, but for other reasons have preferred not to for now.

EXACTLY --- Zinaval --- .right on the hole

some guys should really pay a hefty sum for greek, just because they wear me out.

I LOOOOOVE greek, but not with monster dicks.

Thanks BDG. Wish I knew you so I can get reverse CG in your ass, you are a wild child... LOL. I am XL and I won't last more than 30 minutes w/o my cock ring. Is that cool?

I would not want to be with a provider..who was whincing as I was having pleasure...conversely it is a huge turn on, if the gal is in the throws of pleasure as I am

If you advertise yourself as the BackDoorGirl make sure you can accomodate. Price the service assuming guys are coming for anal and train yourself to be able to take any guy. If you don't like try another vocation.