...I'm reading another post regarding a dude thinking his oily massages were Nuru sessions but he went beyond that to describe is strategy for getting bbfs. It starts with a nice camel slide while talking dirty, then rubbing his tip on her clit and "if she responds positively I just shove it right in".
Now, I've enjoyed a few awesome slides in my past when oil was everywhere and I'm sure at the right moment I could have done just the same and the gal really wouldn't have been able to do anything about it. That said, I believe there must be a level of trust involved for a woman to even engage in this. If BBFS isn't a thing for you, how would you respond to a client who took advantage of the lubrication and position and plunged balls deep without warning? Does consent have meaning here? Would this border on the edge of assault or rape? There's a real problem with a few guys in here and I didn't want this to get buried deep in some random thread. Looking for feedback. Maybe I'm out of step and with the advent of Prep and a few other drugs, we can just go back to the old days and say fuck all to any form of trying to be safe?
That said, I'm not entirely sure that was the intent of what the guy said. I suspect the "responds positively" is expected to do a lot of work in the statement. But as you say, there has to be a lot of trust and if one doesn't actually ask first then the potential for a miscommunications is present.
You can still play safe if you want and you really don't know how much you were exposed to before. I do think things are more in the open, and I suspect that implies some increase in frequency of BBFS so some increase in aggregate risk levels. But I'm not entirely sure the needle moved all that much.
quite a few times with real Nuru gel not oil but I have never had a gent attempt to do this. Some ladies are completely naked when doing Nuru some have on bikini bottoms and no top. As soon as I think a gent is going to attempt to do a camel slide or attempt bbfs I tell them I do not do camel slides or bbfs it is not safe. Yes a guy has to have consent from the lady in the scenario you described. If he does not that is rape period. If a guys here think this is ok they are predators...is there any specific threads where guys here think this is ok? I would like to read so I can AVOID these guys in my opinion are dangerous and predators.
No consent was asked for or given. IT’S SEXUAL ASSAULT. PAYING FOR SERVICES DOES NOT GIVE ONE CARTE BLANCHE TO DO WHATEVER ONE LIKES.
Same deal with the fucker who wrote in a review that he came in a provider’s mouth and she was mad. This asshole wrote “I didn’t ask and she didn’t say I couldn’t”. It fucking doesn’t matter if the provider has prior reviews saying she offers CIM, if she doesn’t give consent specifically to you, don’t fucking do it. There are too many fucking threads saying that giving PII and deposits ruin it for the “rest of us”. Bullshit. Misogynistic little assholes like this ruin it for the rest of us (For the record, I have never paid a deposit or given PII but I don’t fault a lady for doing what she believes is necessary for her safety)
I have made it a habit, when visiting a lady for the first time, to take a few minutes to go over the NOs. I start with the few things I don't want her to do, and then she can list the things she would prefer not to do. We then exchange things we really like to do. No one likes to be told no in the heat of passion, and this prevents that from happening. That said, you never put the key in the lock without permission.
I had a Nuru massage.. the girl was all nude. We were both covered in gel. She was working a really aggressive slide. We both were enjoying ourselves. Without a word she put ne inside suddenly & I came pretty quickly after that. She asked me not tell anyone that she did that. I didn't. O got a test 2 weeks later.. all good..
Re: It can work both ways I had a Nuru massage.. the girl was all nude. We were both covered in gel. She was working a really aggressive slide. We both were enjoying ourselves. Without a word she put ne inside suddenly & I came pretty quickly after that. She asked me not tell anyone that she did that. I didn't. O got a test 2 weeks later.. all good..
I have had multiple top providers provide a NURU slide where they get on top and eventually try to stick it in w/o my consent or sometimes whisper something in my ear telling me that bare is so much better or something like that. Too risky for me. I pulled it out instantaneously the few times that it happened --- within seconds. I think that they just mistakenly assumed that is what I wanted.
Can't find a link -- but think there is probably a thread over on the K-Girl board that has one.
The was a classic comedy skit by a couple of Japanese comics, male-female team, that was making fun of the Japanese sex rules. Only sex if intercourse so things like anal and blowjobs are not consider sex and can be sold. One of the skits was about nuru sessions where things just slip in -- but it's not prostitution because it was an accident.
As someone who went to a lot of sex parties pre-covid, a typical rule is anything besides a clear "yes" is a "no". It is not a popular rule, but it works. At these parties people trying to have fun, not get rаped.
That's a good way to approach it imo. Now, if a guy wants bbfs, omitting obvious health issues/concerns, he can ask for it. He can always ask "OK?" and all girls of all languages would understand it. Obviously before putting it in. If you do anything besides that (I'm also omitting girls who advertise bbfs like agency girls who sometimes just sit on you without warning, or girls you went over the rules wit beforehand) and don't get a clear indication or agreement and still stick it in, you're a scumbag who tries to take advantage of the provider. Like someone else said, it's not quite stealthing but it isn't that far off. And I don't give a shit about "heat of the moment" . You can ruin lives going bare with a girl who doesn't want to go bare with you. This isn't a game. Get a clear agreement and you're good. I may ask for customer respect around here, but you can be goddamn sure I respect the boundaries of providers. Otherwise why even talk about respect.
I think due to the prevalence of BBFS being preferred by many mongers lately. It kills any chance of a repeat, so I think it behooves the ladies to make sure it's okay before they do it.
...Mongers are reading the (hopefully embellished) reports of BBFS popping up all over the place. One might think any session that involves a Kgirl automatically now includes it. This shit is going to come back to haunt many of us in the future. More guys are wanting it, some demanding it and others just STICKING IT IN when THEY perceive there is an opportunity to do so. Oh, I forgot to include "using force" in the sticking it in part...
I meant that it's tricky when you don't follow a strict ruleset and just go off by expressions, perceived implied consent/ageeement and so forth... that can lead to potential arguing, issues and fucked up lives.
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