Here is a link.
I am curious as to whether anyone knows the origin of the notion of an escort providing a "Girl Friend Experience," a service level that I think revolutionized the escort industry.
Did this phrase originate on TER? Can anyone track it to a particular lady who was way ahead of her time? Or had the escort industry already used this idea long before TER and the Internet became the engine of choice in bring together escorts and clients?
Perhaps another way to ask the question is, with respect to those ladies who expressly offer GFE, did you learn about this from a source other than TER?
This may have already been discussed but a search back 300 days revealed no caption expressly addressing this. So, it it has, linking me to where such a discussion might be found would be helpful.
the post at the link below, talking about really ancient discussions of GFE...Like maybe early 90's or....crazy as it sounds...maybe even the 80's.
So definitely pre-TER.
Here is a link.
But someone just coined a phrase to suit the occasion.
Most gentlemen have eperienced different forms of being with a working girl...Massage parlours, modeling studios, personal ads, srip clubs, private escorts. All offered some form of sensual pleasure that kept you in the loop, searching for that special something.When you found it you came back for more.
Try to remember some of your early experiences and do remember the ones that stick in your mind.Even after 20 years you still remember them. Where they not ladies who would now be labeled GFE?
I know that my attitude has been the same for 30 years. I don't remember not kissing or being genuinely interested in who I am seeing. In my younger days I had a never ending appetite and pleased to be pleased. I guess I would have been called a spinner but I did kiss and I did enjoy myself. Guess it developed from the freelove era of the 60's.
Kisses Haley
took me to "Old Dave in Phoenix" as well as the unnamed provider who thinks she coined the term, I reposted this on the Phoenix Board hoping the Sheika - who is the resident authority in that area - might chime in.
meaning. Sure, it can be used by reputable providers and agencies in the ads in an understandable effort to avoid listing out services, but it's so bastardized by others that any real meaning has been eroded long ago.
I prefer the TER method of delineating the actual services provided and experienced to any catch-all ambiguous term. For those who consider it to mean a level of intimacy and connection, the review narratives offer an insight to that, with the caveat being that intimacy and connection are uniquely defined and achievable experiences to the two (or three) people in the room, and should not be wholly relied upon as a barometer of the emotional experience to be had.
Besides, to be perfectly frank, 99% of the girlfriends I have ever had couldn't hold a candle to these TER ladies in the level of complete physical and emotional sexual satisfaction provided. I saw an ad post recently for "The College Girlfriend Experience" and my first thought was that my college girlfriend was a certifiably insane, vicious, life-force sucking bitch who's primary goal in life was (or is) to deplete every man unlucky enough to be ensnared by her artfully crafted webs of deceit of his individuality, masculinity, and very enjoyment of life. So, the ad, and the reference to "Girlfriend" probably didn't elicit the visceral response from me that the provider was looking for.
If you are really interested, however, there's the Saint Bart's GFE scale that you should check out.
Good luck
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I wrote:
GFE is a term that is often thrown around in this hobby and seems to have a different definition for everybody. The most basic definition of GFE is what a Girlfriend would do for her boyfriend. Of course all girlfriends are different, so therein lies the issue.
Generally with a well-reviewed lady offering GFE you will receive DFK, BBBJ, and covered FS usually with a MSOG option. Also you generally have some emotional connection during the session.
If you walk in, bang and run, that is FS, not GFE.
If you get Greek, CIM, Facial, whips, chains, cats, dogs, candle wax, a chicken, ice cubes, jumper cables and a feral squirrel, etc. you are likely looking at a PSE instead of a GFE, unless you have a GREAT Girlfriend!
Hope this helps...or at least gives you some ideas...LOL!!!
Then DblHappy responded:
Terrev,
Appreciate your thorough and concise summary. While you're answering, I need to know a finer point.
I know the feral squirrel is a routine part of the PSE (we all learn that as a newbie), but if an otherwise nominal GFE throws in the occasional rabid skunk, is that borderline PSE or just more like the GNDwS (Girl Next Door with Skunk)?
This has been bugging me for a while. Any clarification would relieve my anxiety.
To Which I Replied:
This Usually Falls Under GFE With Role Playing - You Know The One Where your usually mild mannered Girlfriend dresses up like a "Skunky Ass Ho" as a turn on for her perverted gutter slut loving boyfriend. This is usually NOT done with a Rabid Skunk.
While "Skunkin" has been around for years, the recent addition of Rabid Skunks has sent shock waves through the "skunking" community.
Skunking can also fall under "Mental Ward" sex. The fact the skunk is rabid may show a loss of higher brain function in your partner either due to the rabies or a serious mental illness. This should in no way diminish the sexual performance of the woman involved and as long as she doesn't bite you should be okay.
I am sorry to have to be the one to tell you, but GNDwS is a sexual urban legend much like the Female Orgasm, The G Spot, Too Much Sex, and the Bad Blowjob.
Personally, I really hate the term GFE. GFE has been bastardized by both providers and hobbyists equally throughout the years to the point that the definition of GFE is meaningless.
For me, GFE used to be about specifics in services. I'm betting that most here think the same way: BBBJ, DATY, DFK, etc. I used think this way. I've come to realize that it's not necessarily the specifics that get me going anymore, it's more of the feelings (or acting performance) that I get from the provider I'm with. I'm betting that deep inside this is probably true for most of you seeking GFE.
Why do I say this? Well, from personal experience, some of my best experiences ever were from ladies who did not give some of the specifics that GFEs are "supposed" to provide (namely BBBJ). It's how I as a client was treated and how I felt during the session that made my time with these providers mind-blowing. Heck, there have been times when I "only" got one position during F/S, no BBBJ, no DATY. Yet, something about the moment between us that made it an amazing session.
I argue that GFE really is an emotional thing rather than a physical one. Some here will disagree with me here, but think back in your sexual histories. Think of your "best moments" with providers, SOs, etc. I guarantee that many of them had no BBBJ, DFK, etc. So, in the end (at least for me), it's not the specifics, it's the intangible.
The term GFE, imho, needs to just die. LOL.
What an interesting perspective from a hobbyist. You remind me of my clients...great guys all of them. I'm very safe and will always be but seem to be able to provide the atmosphere etc. if you will but according to the majority here, anyone who does not perform x,y,z is called 3g's regardless of the attention, atmosphere and connection that is very prevalent. I hate the term GFE, and if you ask most guys out there, how many real GF's do all the required activity? Not many from what I've seen in black and white on these pages.
I agree. Most of what I expect from GFE is intangible. That being the case how can a provider know what to provide prior to meeting me?
I guess that's the whole point. It's an intangible. Sometimes it's there, and other times it ain't.
right here before 300 days ago, (from Mr. Fischer I think) that in the old days it simply meant no condom required. It's at least as old as the 80s.
Porn Star Experience PSE, seems to be something new and introduced in the internet age.
the fact of the matter is that providers give a much more enjoyable experience today then they did say, twenty years ago.
Back then, the idea that a provider would behave like a girl friend was pretty unthinkable. The deal was that you had her body for an hour (or more likely for a half hour or whatever time it took one to get off), and that was it, no socializing, no mental thrill at all.
I enjoy the experiences much more now that GFE, whatever it may mean to each, is the norm.
There was definitely no such thing as GFE in any of my experiences. The ladies in Thailand tried to act like girl friends when you got them a place and lived with them on your off duty time, but it was mostly about sex for me with no intimacy or kissing.
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