A post by a lady that said that white guys only want to see white ladies got me thinking.  What percentage of "John's" (I hate the word hobbyist) do you think only see escorts within their race/color?  For simplicity let's assume that there African American and Caucasian are the only two categories otherwise it is too complicated.  It sounds like most African American guys will see white girls, but that most white guys will not see African American ladies?  Is that true?

are the same color as me.  In the summer, it drops down to zero, because I get a really deep tan.  

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"Most African American guys will see white girls, but that most white guys will not see African American ladies? Yeah I can see that. As for me, I'm all over the board but funny is that I'm not to into white American ladies unless their over 35.

> What percentage of "John's" (I hate the word hobbyist)  

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And there’s so many beautiful ladies out there. My choices have ranged across the entire spectrum and so far, the experiences have been equally amazing.

just about every race/color on the spectrum. I could care less about her skin color. I’m looking for great service.

I've seen white, Latina, Asian, black...they're all sexy!

What percentage of "John's" (I hate the word hobbyist) do you think only see escorts within their race/color?

I like "hobbyist" as well.  
"John" or "Jane" is lame af.

All shapes….all sizes…all colors…..this is why I am happy most of the time.
Embrace Diversity
Abolish Bigotry

I've been through all the ethnicities and flavors over the decades.

I've already spent too much of my time analyzing Sugar Baby demographics. So I'll only comment on my personal tastes in "Companions" (I don't hate the word 'Hooker' but felt obliged... .  

OKCupid collected statistics on which races dated which races.  White men get an unfair rap.  White men are actually pretty diverse among all humans in who they will date (aka we'll fuck anything.   White women, on the other hand, are among the least diverse, sticking to dating mostly within their own race.
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Now it is my own personal observation, not backed up by any handy data, that the more feminine a black woman is, the more she will appeal to all males, including white males.
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Asian women tend to be the most feminine and therefore have appeal to most races of males.

I really hate it when people talk like that.  I think people should just go with whatever female that you are attracted to & stop this racism shit alone.  By saying that each race should stay with their own race is stupid.

...I only see white woman, always have and always will. No plans to see Asians, blacks or Latinos ever...

Agreed.  

Hobbyist.  

Since I stepped into a hornets nest on my recent post, I will stay true to brand and do so here.

I am  monger... and close second hobbyist... john is dead last

ANY consenting adult woman whatsoever, regardless of what her race is.

I am a client.

...i do...its why i mostly only see oriental black french latin women...i like keeping it in house....

most definitely "say" otherwise.

Though I've never seen a black pro, I've seen several black sugar babes.  Oddly the only person who specifically didn't want to be seen with me in public was a black SB.   Of course that was one out of several.  But I do think race had something to do with it.  

Well I wouldn't call hitting on you bottom feeding.  I'd call it hopeful.  It is a general perception however, which seems to be generally true, that black girls are more likely to say yes.  In my own experience with sugar babes, about 90% of the black girls I have  approached as sugar babes resulted in a BCD engagement.  It's probably 10% with white girls.  It's hard not to notice the difference.

Guess his long term memory isn't that great anymore... lol

God no.  BTW, I’m white.  Asian/Latina drive me wild…..MILF

BMI less than 19, for instance.

I pay all SB's roughly the same.  The difference between an SB and a pro is merely the time spent for the same money.  With a pro it'd typically be one hour.  With and SB about two hours.  I explain my rate/time offer well before we ever meet.
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I did try to book two black pros, both through P411.  Neither ever acknowledged my request.  I had fewer okays at the time, so maybe that's part of it.  
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I shifted over to more SB's than escorts after that, hence the reason I never got around to seeing a black pro.  

No. Not me.

Race has little to do with my choices. However, in regards to the BMI comment, I’m most likely to avoid American providers if any as a majority of the ads that I’ve seen for severely overweight providers are American.

I take it that you're an equal opportunity, copulatory specialist.

I really think that that's a racist type of thing. Like discrimination, but there's a part of me that knows it's not.  See,  it appears that there are people who are so closed minded that he or she won't even consider being with someone who is outside their own race. Not even in the Adult Industry.  

I think that it is normal to see women (or men, if you are a gal) who are different in every way for some of us. Some of us want something "strange" to be strange.  

Personally, I love other races. If she's got a look I like I don't give a damn what race she is. As long as she's the Human Race.
Blasians drive me nuts.

.. who it seemed only saw Black girls. He was Black himself.  Both of us, independently, were going to Nats game and we thought it would be a good idea to meet up before the game and have some cold ones. Every single girl this guy talked about was a young Black female, and all his reviews were those of Black ladies.  He also said, he was very attracted to petite black girls.  

....Kitty thank you. Call me "closed-minded" if you will, but I have no apologies nor regrets.

So it seems that you tape your eyes open in the summer when you get a really deep tan.  Wow how smart.

I have seen Asians (both  Persian and far east), Latinas, pacific Island, and one  native American, ladies. I haven't seen a black provider yet. Most ladies in my area are white, so most of the ladies I have seen are white but I have seen ladies that aren't white.

Well except I don't  like "trick". I am not a "trick",

But will see providers of all races, I have said if I could find a beautiful black women, I would see her and her only, but here in Denver we don’t really have many black providers( I hate the word hookers) so I keep seeing whoever will see me…Lol ( it brakes my heart when a black provider won’t see me)                                                    I would have loved to have meet a beautiful black provider, when I first got in the hobby, when I could go all night!

you keep saying you only see white women but have you looked at your reviews? *laughs*

...certain, as previously stated I would never spend fifty cent on you or your ilk lol!

...sweetie to try and get in better shape rather than post on these boards day and night, That said, I guess there is a market for those who look like you LOL!

What a dick response?  I mean, seriously, what is the point of this response?  

Most of the ladies are white.  Occasionally an AA lady will tour in the area, but timing has not worked out thus far.

African American, Caucasian, Indian, Oriental, Hispanic---I can honestly say ALL of these women gave me incredible dates and memories to last a lifetime!! (A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman--period!!)

good day and thank you...

you're right! there is a market for women who look like me and it's a pretty damn good one. Also, you may want to work on your "reads and/or roasts*". If you're going to try to mock me in public 1) going for the obvious without it actually being funny is sad and 2) try being a bit more creative. Other than that, have a Happy Holiday (as I'm not sure what you celebrate) and be blessed.  
 

I knew a few beautiful higher end African American providers and they all said that white upscale gentlemen were their most frequent customers

a very Merry Christmas! Hope you enjoy your Kwansa holiday...

as Baby Jesus may slap you upside your head.  

it's Kwanzaa... if you're going to be an ignorant racist, at least be an intelligent one. Come on' break the mold, love. Second, I'm Catholic so thank you... Merry Christmas.  

Mya
For goodness sake,  get some help.  You sound pretty racist to me.

I only go for half-Russian/half-Portuguese and if the lady is not that she should keep on walking!

...Kwansa, my bad lol.
Have a pleasant weekend and GO ARMY beay NAVY!

...block me, you really think I care what a mongers opinion of me is lol.

The World as a whole is all interracial this is a fact. I love all kind humans.  Ethnic heritage holds no merit. I am not a racist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans
"... Neanderthal-derived DNA has been found in the genomes of most or possibly all contemporary populations, varying noticeably by region. It accounts for 1–4% of modern genomes for people outside Sub-Saharan Africa ..."
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"... Denisovan-derived ancestry is largely absent from modern populations in Africa and Western Eurasia. The highest rates, by far, of Denisovan admixture have been found in Oceanian and some Southeast Asian populations, ..."
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"... In 2019, scientists discovered evidence, based on genetics studies using artificial intelligence (AI), that suggests the existence of an unknown human ancestor species, not Neanderthal or Denisovan, in the genome of modern humans."

And I believed him.

something to shout about is probably a lot more than 3%.  Lol

I thought that inicky was referring to YOU (CDL)!

Neanderthals!  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1nBhDVuTR0
Tyrannosaurus Funk, sung by Samuel L. Jackson

Posted By: trex44

Re: Anyone who thinks that is . . . .
Neanderthals!  
   
 Yeah, I remember them...larger portion size than Homo floresiensis.  
   
 Much less tasty than a good ol' stegosaurus

By this logic, we are all mixed with plants and fish, too.

And that means taking a stand with dog whistle racial slurs.  In this case we've also witnessed his religious slurs as well.

to make something up when the truth is not on their side.  KnobbyHunter already knows I review indies under my alias and agency girls under CDL, yet he keeps bringing up the some tired lie that I only see Asians.  BTW, I'm white, and as I said above, only about 2% of the indies I see are white.  That makes me the worst fucking racist on the planet.  You did know that about 50% of the reviewers review under their alias, don't you?  But that doesn't mean they can't review under their username as well. Once, by joining KnobbyHunter, welcome, to the moron stalker club.

Also, what does it matter?  Some of us like younger women, some like big boobs or big asses, etc.  Some guys like trannies.  If you prefer buxom Swedes or Korean spinners, what of it?  I mean the point of this is to enjoy ourselves, not signal our "virtue."  See whoever you like.

But that's not what CDL used to say:
"...I don't review the indies I see anymore..."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girl-113/its-a-question-of-staying-----24015?frmSearch=1#24015

"BTW, I'm white, and as I said above, only about 2% of the indies I see are white.  That makes me the worst fucking racist on the planet. "

a well known indie I had seen had figured out I was also CDL.  She has since left TER, so no harm no foul.  Accordingly, I admit it wasn't true when I said this it ten months ago.  I continue to review indies under my alias, which I started when I was still on AF.  I lied in this statement to throw her off the scent of CDL.  It worked.  She backed off.   Happy?  

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And agency girls under CDL?? I think I know the reason but I don't want to assume.

reviewing on another site that the indies are the ones that will give blowback and cause trouble if you say even the slightest negative thing in a review.  (Not everyone,  but many do).   They come after you on the boards, bad mouth you with other providers and annoy you in other ways.  Even though I try to keep CDL anonymous, my alias is even more UTR.  I never use it for posting on a board, only indie reviews, and I use a completely different style for the review than CDL.  Look how many times we get posters here complaining about the behavior of providers after they posted an honest review, and you will see how this makes a lot of sense.  I'm guessing you assumed correctly.  

The issues you’ve experienced at other sites I can say that it only happened to me a couple of times here. And even in those times it never occurred to me to set up two handles to avoid the nonsense.
Seems kinda drastic…

You have admitted that you have your own scoring system when it comes to K-girls - you never give them less than a "7" even when they should get a "5" because you don't want to "hurt their business."

to your trolling stalker ways?   No more clues as to my reviews of indies.   Like I said, I'm UTR on that. My trolls/stalkers would love to out my alias.   I've said all I'm going to say about that subject.  You can speculate all you want.

I personally find it pretty disturbing as well as disappointing that you think it's OK to lie on this forum in order to cover your ass. But at least you admitted to lying, so not all is lost.

Is it because you have an “arraignment” with the agency or??…Its Another, I have an ideal but I’m not assuming.

Has "HE" ever told the truth?  And you are expecting him to tell the truth now, because..........

That is Big P's speculation.  Ask him.  Agency's don't even know who CDL is, so how could I make an "arrangement?  There are many guys that give their TER username to bookers.  I don't.  I have gotten approved from day one by references from other agencies.  All they have on me is my first name and my hobby phone number.  They have no clue I am CDL on TER.  

I'm an older white guy that enjoys women of all races. Just got back from a trip where I had sexy adventures with two different Korean women.

You should move farther from Denmark if you're that sensitive.  Lol

Your CDL identity has been cross referenced to your phone number.  When you make believe to fuck hundreds of K-Girls in a few years you are bound to fuck up 1-4% of the time.  Just so that you can cover yourself I will provide the following intel.  It was a phone operator from an "agency" from the spring of 2019.  He wouldn't give you an appointment with a young (22 y.o.) K-Girl because the previous time (she claimed) that there were "issues".  

When I was 7 years old, I got sent to the principal's office and was unjustly punished for using a bad word in class.  
That night, at the dinner table, I asked my Dad, "Is Rotterdam a bad word?"  
He said, "No. It's a city in the Netherlands, not too far away from the stinky cheese in Denmark. Why?"
I said, "My mean teacher sent me to the principal's office today for saying Rotterdam."
"What?!? What happened?"
"My teacher cut her finger and I said to my pals, "Good! I hope it'll rot her damn hand off!"

YOU may have a record of fucking up 4% of the time, but I don't.  That's why I own a good-sized business, and you clean swimming pools.  (you didn't think I knew that?  You have no friends here).   I don't see 22yo girls, my preference is 30+.  See?  You have fucked up again and continue to prove you are a moron.  This is your one response for this month, troll.  I couldn't resist bitch-slapping a little cunt.

You've bragged all over the board that you block hobbyists that you don't want to read.
Hmmmmm....so how did you read it?  haha.  

would not lie to keep from getting doxed as a high-volume John?  Sorry, but in this context, I feel perfectly justified.

You do a review, you put your name on it, and stand by it. Being viewed as a "high" volume John is part of the deal in this community if that's where the chips fall.
I one time was viewed as a "high" volume "John" but I took it on, the good and the bad. I was called out on a occasion or two but that's the deal. I didn't feel the need to lie or create an alias for this or that...You put your name on it, be a man and deal with it. So you get your hair messed up every now and then...that's the deal.
You do have an interesting review record that could turn some ladies off....but you seem savvy enough to work around it.
So why are you trippin?

Just trying to answer the questions everyone has.  Granted, some are troll questions, but I don't consider you a troll even though we sometimes needle each other.  For some reason, indies are put off by high volume johns.  I learned that when I was reviewing out in the open on another website prior to 2015, and giving providers my username to secure appointments.   If you can't be connected through your username to your reviews, you get zero blowback when you give someone less than what THEY think they deserve.  We've seen plenty of evidence of that from posts by others on this forum.  I'm a proactive guy in everything I do.  I don't let the chips fall where they may, and I don't rely on luck to get me through life.  I will protect my real ID at all costs.  

"Are you saying you have a different scoring system for "indies" than K-girls?
You have admitted that you have your own scoring system when it comes to K-girls - you never give them less than a "7" even when they should get a "5" because you don't want to "hurt their business."

Well, I would not put myself into a position that would force me to lie on here in the first place.

is to not trust me if that's all it takes.  Most of the info I put up is verifiable, even though others sometimes disagree.  While it's not an easy choice to intentionally mislead someone, I will do it for the greater good of being able to remain a part of TER.  If she were to dox me, I'd be gone in a heartbeat.  That's just the way it has to be for me.  

will always get a laugh from me.  Good one.

This guy plays all ends against the means;  there's nothing honest in his portfolio.

regardless of what scoring system I use.  You're creating a false narrative because you assume my grading of Kgirls is not "honest' when it is not only honest, but its consistent.  As a guy who only gives 9's and 10's, I don't expect you to understand.  Maybe a little introspection concerning "honesty" is in order.  

your scoring of K-girls is DISHONEST.  According to TER, Average Performance should be scored a "5," yet you will give a "7" for a BELOW average performance because you don't want to hurt a K-girl's business.  Why are you more concerned about K-girls' business than you are about giving honest scores to inform your hobbying bros?

have to tell you that they have seen the same girls as me, and the details in my reviews are always spot on.  I challenged you to do the same, but you have never seen a single girl that I have seen.  All you have to do is seen some and then tell me what you think I got wrong in the review.  Absent that, you are full of speculation and lies, but no facts.  Are you ever going to have a life without me?  I feel like I own you, so would you mind mowing my lawn this weekend?

deviating from the TER system and keeping it secret.   However, I post my scoring system on various boards a few times a year, and YOU know that.  I use the system I use to be consistent.  I will throw out the challenge to anyone here to quantify the difference in terms of service between a score of 4, 5, 6, and 7.   So far, neither you, nor anyone else has been able to do it.  My system is simple . . . . .

from your rental efficiency apartment to this board you have no assets.  You claim to fame is your fantasy filled character on this board.  I live in your head RENT FREE.  Here's one example:

Hello?  Smack your head.  You are on TER meathead,  Just report here on one board so your simple mind can handle it.  And its REALLY EASY to simply use the TER rating system, OK?  Just like we lay it out for the newbies.  That way we are all on the same page.

and that's just one of MANY things wrong with the TER system. So you're not alone in having your own way of grading on the curve. Some do it the opposite way and grade much harder than the rest of us. So if you're going to use the numerical ratings of a given reviewer it's important to compare them to those of other reviewers who've seen women you also have knowledge about. Only then can you judge how to value their rankings.
This is not a new thing. So I don't condemn any reviewer for his rankings unless they are artificially high for an obvious purpose like getting discounted sessions or other shill reasons. And, yes, it's hard to determine this but those of us who've been around for a while have gotten good at it.

...I guess that means you are not black either maya LOL. Oh and for the record I have 0.00% black in me, thank goodness...and yes I'm poor, morally bankrupt if you will (like many on here) but certainly not financially.

I wish for once you spoke the truth, but sadly the girls I see are usually around 3/ 3 and a half bills. As a rule I will never spend more than 5 hundo on any escort...unless she is a legitimate pornstar. Have a pleasant evening.

he is poor.  The name "bathtubgin" says it all.  Lol    

“I've been rich and I've been poor, and rich is better.” ― Mae West

....my handle BathubGin is derived from one of my favorite songs, from my favorite band, PHISH. Of course, an old  
square like you would have no idea from which the name's point of reference is derived LOL! Merry Christmas to  
all and to all a goodnight.

LOL

With ZERO context, I assumed it was a reference to the ORIGINAL meaning of Bathtub Gin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_gin
"Bathtub gin refers to any style of homemade spirit made in amateur conditions. The term first appeared in 1920, in the prohibition-era United States, in reference to the poor-quality alcohol that was being made."  
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It was further made famous in a TV theme song about The Roaring 20s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDspr9ymmoQ
Go to 1:50 :  
Prohibition and **bathtub gin**.  
If Bennie sent you, you walk right in
To a Speak Easy, Speak Easy.
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I started to listen to a 15 minute version of Phish "Bathtub Gin" and I gave up on it after 5 minutes.

I don't see why this was posted other than to start drama. Its none of my business. Who cares what someone else likes. It's not my money nor does it affect me. That applies to everyone. Why is this even allowed to be posted. Everyone - d0 what you like, we do not care! It's not that serious and race is a bs concept. Who cares this much smh. First people are obsessed with what others do in their bedrooms and now you wanna know the race of what those people do in their bedrooms? This is so tacky. I have stayed away from here for a reason I see....

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from Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. clocks in around 14min...but remember if you give up after 5 minutes you are missing out on when Trey and the band really starts rolling. Jump in around the 5:30 min mark and thank me later lol.

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As a tan skinned French/Latina provider, I get clients of ethnicities so I'm not sure if that's true. Most of my clients are white but maybe that's because the majority of clients in general are white.

I think it was Mya who said that if you charge more than $200/hr most of your clients are going to be white.

all ethnicities in a percentage that mirrors their appearance in the population in general, then that would just be "normal", and as you say, the majority would be white because there are more white men in the population than other ethnicities.

Using p411 as a sample, black escorts are probably approximately representative of black population percentage. However on the local Sugar Babe sites, blacks and Hispanics seem to be disproportionately represented.  So much so that if I contact a black or Hispanic SB, she's more likely to agree to my terms.  Whereas I have a very low closing rate with white SB's.  (I offer the same terms to all.)

Well being a black male that grew up in Europe and has lived in many different countries. I find that I love all women of different cultures backgrounds and ethnic  backgrounds. But I have found out that I have better chemistry with Latin women 1st than Caucasian and 3rd my Black women.

And in regards to seeing people from other races I enjoy that to meet different people with different life experiences. I have some regular African American clients who tell me a lot of white providers will not see them. That always makes me sad. If someone is verified and appears like a gentlemen through their emails I will see them gladly

Most girls I know who won't see black guys, it's not because they're racist (or at least not negatively) but they don't want a footlong. Luckily I'm half Asian so I don't have that issue

from the waist up, you may still have that problem, but no one has called you out on it . . . . . yet.  Lol

My other half is Jewish....but let me put it this way, no one is impressed when I pull my pants down but they are surprised when I salute