I am calling total BS on your post.
Do you want everyone to believe that I am being discussed in other people's sessions? I find that incredulous. Twice? Please.

What your post tells me is that you are infatuated with my presence. You are also unhappy because I refused to autograph your AARP card.

Like I said. I am glad I was able to help you live out another of your fantasies.

To my great surprise I owe him a small thanks, and I might as well make it public.  I might as well rub in the unexpected consequences I enjoyed because he is such a irritating being.  Do not expect it too often, but I just had to this time.

I saw two ladies in the past two weeks, one last week and one this week.  Both have very strong opinions of Old H.  And neither are especially flattering of him.

The lady this week was a little extra nice to me because of my replies to Hirogerm.  That was nice.

Last week's date was even a better deal:  At the end of the session she said the next one was free because of my replies to Old H.

I guess even mosquitos do some good by being part of the food chain.

Needless to say a part of me hope H continues to belch his obnoxious comments!  And no, I will not write a review of either of the two ladies, at least not for these dates!

You are getting a free session because of how you respond to Hiro's posts?

Hirogen is that hated by the ladies. And the funny thing is he wonders why I think he is bitter and feel sorry for him. I do have hope for him, but not much.

I was quite surprised but was not about to turn it down.

Though actually it was more like 50% off on two since I did pay the lady for last week's date.

I find H abrasive and annoying, too, but I haven't joined in, both because I avoid feeding trolls and because others(like OT) say whatever needs to be said.  Still, if the ladies start doing that, I may just join in.  He makes such a tempting target.  Glad to hear about your good fortune, OT. It's deserved.

My God.....some of you people are an absolute pathetic joke. It would actually be more funny if it wasn't so sad.

WTF is up with so many of you people that think this place is "real life"?? You get so wrapped up in this bullshit that it becomes an integral part of your reality.
You actually discuss stupid shit like that during your sessions?!?!

For anyone who takes this so seriously....what exactly makes you think that what you "see" here is real?
Apparently many of you are FAR to dim-witted to think for a moment that some people might just be yanking the community chain....for no other reason than having fun.

Here's a clue for the dumbasses.....sometimes, some of us just like to fuck with you.....because you make it so GD easy!! Just decide how you want to come across...grab a username or alias....and watch the people spin out of control at your whim.
Easy peasy.

You think you "know" who someone is based on board postings???? Friggin' idiots to the highest degree.

Hats off to Hirogen, many others, and me.....for messing with the clueless to the point that it becomes such a large part of their lives.

God put the stupid on this earth for us to mess with.....and you just make it SO easy!!! I'll bet you believe everything you see on TV and the internet too. How's that "no money down" real estate course working for ya? Still have a garage full of chatchkies from SMC?

You have unwittingly just PROVEN that Hirogen owns you!! LMAO

If it learned art of subtle insults

but I guess it depends on one's definition of "own".
Simply replying doesn't mean anyone owns you or wins or anything else. But when it reaches a level where someone actually gives credence to the BS on the boards, and the people who propagate it, to the point that they're discussing it with others....that's when you've been "owned".

But YOU...hit the nail squarely on the head and obviously understand this little circus. It is indeed entertainment...and nothing more...at least to the enlightened. And that....is why it's worth the little bit of time that it is!

And who knows....maybe there's an alias persona that expresses subtlety as well.
But subtle insults are lost on the truly stupid...so sometimes you have to bring out the big hammer to mess with them and get them all riled up.

Right tool for the right job.

by some of the posts on this and other boards, you would think it was life and death.

It's an internet board folks, nothing for anyone to get their panties all in a wad over, but it is amusing when people take this stuff waaaaay too seriously.

you're not saying that the board should censor such dialogue, should you ? I also detest Hirogen, but if he wants to make an ageist ( & other pejoratives ) moron out of himself, that's his business. IMO, the only grounds for posting censorship &/ or banishment, should be if someone makes threats &/or gives out personal info on others, or is incredibly disruptive. Hirogen doesn't QUITE sink to that level. There was ONE who DID sink that low, but seems to be MIA at present---------

I am also amazed that some take an internet board as seriously as they do in real life.
They also want their political correctness injected into a sex board which is even more pathetic.

Obviously I have tapped into a few person's insecurities. You can't do anything about your age because everyone here will age and die. If you are fat and out of shape, you can remedy that. You can't increase your IQ. You are stuck with what you have. (Sorry. Hirogen can't help ya)

It is very flattering that I have become such a major topic of discussion on this sex board. However, I know that it is not real and when I log out of this forum I reenter reality. Some people seem to have difficulty in separating the fantasy world for the real world.

As long as I continue to feel the love that I have been afforded, I will stay and allow you all to entertain me. This is after all entertainment, right?  

Until and unless Hirogen or anyone else here actually breaks any rules here, and starts attacking individuals instead of groups, there will be no censorship on this or any other board I moderate.

Pri actually sums up my position quite well, Threats and giving out personal information WILL NOT be tolerated here, nor will spamming of the boards. Anything else here, as long as it is on topic will stand. If it offends certain peoples overly sensitive feelings, so be it.  I can't make everyone happy, so I will err on the side of free and open dialogue.

The people that seem to be the most disruptive here are the ones who's goat seem so easily gotten to, that just can't resist the urge to follow the likes of Hirogen around and attack his every post. Those are the ones that are disruptive, and also the ones most likely to have their posts pulled and be moderated themselves.

I am happy to see that Priapus, admittedly one of Hirogens biggest detractors is intelligent enought to recognize this, I hope the  rest of you follow suit.

One other word of advice, while the ocassional "train wreck" threead is entertaining, I will not allow this board to degenerate into a war zone. If someone thinks that it is ok to respond to a "fat broad" joke that insults no one as an individual, If anyone thinks it's ok to respond with a personal attack on that person, they will find that it is their post that will be pulled and they moderated.

with the exception of "unemployed black men and pork ribs" and starving people in third world countries, every other potential victim for lampooning has already been done, and guess what? The board managed to survive, it will also survive jokes about fat broads, fat guys, hobbyists who don't wash their ass, ho's with bad attitudes, John's with bad attitudes. do you really want me to go on?

Lets face it, this is a fuck board for people who are at least "supposed" to be grown ups. Feel free to denigrate any group of people you want to, even lesbians and feminists. The rules apply equally to all.

OT - Because you're getting a free session, I think you should treat Hiro to a return trip to the High Pasture for another sexual adventure with the sheep.

If you want a more polite forum, try the Newbie Board. Even I am nice there. No matter how fucking stupid the questions are at times. lol

some of his post makes me laugh but the degrading of ladies is outta control

has had some good side effects for someone.

lucky you. you got to make lemonade from his lemons. cheers.

you have also just proved that OldTraveler owns Hirogen and you too. as a corollary i guess you onw me now...... LMFAO! good luck with that! LOL!

of course junior high school level speculation about "who owns who" could either properly taken as a joke or a sign that your testosterone is of the unwholesome variety. luckily i have no need to decide which is the case. the board is entertainment, sometimes smoke and mirrors, sometimes very serious.

if it weren't those many things it would'nt be worth any time at all.

Most of us are here to ESCAPE domesticity and drama, not initiate it. You wanna yank the community chain? Get married (when your parents give you permission, of course), have 4 kids and yank the chain of your local PTA.

All the fools who hate the "Hirogen" persona have made him their own personal celebrity. They have to have a villain in order for them to play the heroes, and he's it, and he plays the part well; he's Heath fucking Ledger. A whole fucking thread about "Hirogen"? For fucks sake.

Dance puppets, dance.

Having fun is one thing, but when some posters believe "fun" equates to insults and degrading others post after post it is questionable whether that belongs.

It used to be "funny" and very accepted to tell all variety of demeaning ethnic jokes, the kind that are racial slurs of the wors kind disguised as "funny jokes".  About Poles, Blacks, Japaneese, Iris, Chineese, etc.  I see little difference between those and a steady spewing of "funny posts" that attack about half the people on here.

The reaction of some, "It is just humor, can't you take a joke?" is the same as I hear from KKK members and the anti-immigration (not just anti-illegal-immigration, but anti WASP) people.  I do not find their hate to be acceptable "humor", and I see no difference with this.  It is always the people who tell the "fat broad" jokes who insist they are "funny" when no one other that H, JackShit, GatorJimmy, and others of their kind find them funny.  And the more these people KNOW it hurts others, the more they intensify their hate.

About the only "humor" of H's that I do laugh at are his "old fart" comments directed towards me.  He or she, whatever gender is hiding there, is so clueless I can not help but laugh.  At him, not with him.  It helps that he is making me far more popular with the ladies than I could ever do on my own.

"Apparently many of you are FAR to dim-witted to think for a moment that some people might just be yanking the community chain....for no other reason than having fun."

"Here's a clue for the dumbasses.....sometimes, some of us just like to fuck with you.....because you make it so GD easy!! Just decide how you want to come across...grab a username or alias....and watch the people spin out of control at your whim.
Easy peasy."

"God put the stupid on this earth for us to mess with.....and you just make it SO easy!!!"

So, it's all just for entertainment value huh?

Well, little boys pull wings off from flies for often just for the entertainment value.

Just saying, part of my opinion about someone is based on what they do for entertainment value. I don't expect my opinion to count for more than anyone elses, but I do expect to express it when I desire to do so. You may like to believe I'm somehow terribly distraught when doing so. I'm not!

Why stop with denigrating old hos, fat broads, anyone over 40, or anyone not a he-man woman hater wannabe?  How about we pump up the racist humor around here? I remember some goodies from my days down south…..unemployed black men and pork ribs……that was some funny shit.

Hey, I bet we could have some fun with over-weight middle aged men who couldn’t get laid without a fistful of benjamins and a trench digger? Or, guys who couldn’t find a clitoris with an atlas and a flashlight. Men stuck with alimony?...ha!

Or….. how about men who can’t get an erection without a blue pill? I find others health problems freaking hysterical.

The disabled? The elderly? How about people with no food in 3rd world countries? oh c’mon….this is all about entertainment. Everyone knows bigotry and ignorance doesn't count if it's on the internet.

‘course. I’m a lesbian and a feminist. So everyone also knows I never had a sense of humor to begin with.

and nothing, NOTHING causes me to erupt in side splitting laughter more than an epistemological curiosity. actually there are a couple curiousities here:

1) it IS all entertainment, except when it is NOT...... sometimes folks post serius stuff. no one, not even the mods, have the power to keep all entertainment for all people all the time.

2) this amazing capacity of yours to switch between unreality and reality..... just where did you get that superpower?    all i know is every where i go.... there i am and there is reality. sometimes entertaining sometimes not. if you can't switch between fantasy and reality as a superpower i understand that some folks with dissociative personality disorders do that pretty well too! LOL!

although i think you may be no fan of mine, i never count you among the pathetic or dimwitted. my feminist lesbian friends have deliciously wry and wicked senses of humor, i imagine from some of your posts that you may too.

I don't always manage it but I try. There are others on this board I also try to ignore. There are others I seem to offend and I wish they will ignore me.

“Feel free to denigrate any group of people you want to” >>>>Fair enough.

To that end, I suggest a couple of slight modifications to TER’s currently posted rules of engagement:

"While it is anticipated that vigorous debate of ideas and opinions may occur within this forum, it should not be expected that civility in discourse will be maintained.  Discussion Board Moderators and TER Staff will exercise their discretion in managing the flow of discussion and applying these guidelines; or lack thereof.

Criticizing ideas and opinions is a normal process of debate and each person should expect to have ideas challenged. That being said, personal attacks such as denigration of another person's character or value may be moderated; based wholly on discussion board moderator’s discretion.

However, denigration of an entire group of people’s character or value is completely acceptable, and is fully supported by Discussion Board Moderators and TER Staff"

I think this about nails it…lol…

What the Old Traveler is describing is not as unusual as you think.

I will not elaborate on my own experiences as they were shared with women who have a right to privacy, but suffice it to say that challenging assholes quite often nets gratitude that is shown by women.

So those who post hate and ridicule I assume are hateful and angry people.  My posts are directed towards what someone writes.  I have nothing else to comment on about them.

Hirogen most certainly does not own me.  I choose to reply to his comments, hoping more will decide they also will say that his posts do not represent the majority view here.

What should we believe about H?  On message boards one is what one writes; if you do not write you do not exist here.