there is a reason that SALES is one of the highest paying careers...
For one thing,,,,, Not everyone can do it.
a STORY that grabs you and has you WANTING to Believe in it,
will WIN
What Is / Truth
has very little to do with it.
For those with experience, what is the difference between a 200 level provider and a 600 or higher level provider? Is it looks or hotness, PSE over GFE, just the exclusivity of being a member in the club, or...?
there's a 250 gal I'd see before most 500+ gals. When
she's around, there's no reason to look elsewhere, except
for my current flame that I want to share with her, a FMF
are you listening babe?
then again? there was a 400 gal that was incredibly,
undeniably the 1 in a million ... although the 250 is close
who's measuring ... all shapes and sizes, all unique skillsets,
it's what I crave on a given day. But I do prefer to be thoroughly
ravished. A mellow, slow screw only now and then, but I'm not
the young buck I used to be.
Of a difference than just $. On the other hand if he said the difference between a $300 and $700 provider, then I am completely with you.
The difference is four hundred bucks, duh
can now get a room together and we won't talk aboutcha
you guys are a match.... or you can bang the same babe ...
so does that make her an 800 club member?
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Once you reach a certain minimum price point, where most "women of quality" price their services, usually around $300 hr depending on market of course. Some markets like Dallas or Atlanta a bit lower other cities like LA or NYC a bit higher, but once you reach that threshold, anything over that really doesn't reflect much of anything other than marketing.
It's like wine, aside from personal taste and marketing, how many of us can tell the difference in quality between a two hundred dollar bottle of wine and one costing three times as much?
A woman is entitled to charge as much or as little as she wants to, but thinking that a hooker who charges a grand an hour can really do anything that a woman charging a third as much is just buying into the hype she has created, in which case, good for her, and if the men she sees are happy, who am I to judge? BUT, I am not one of those people who thinks that just because you slap a high price on something it automatically makes it superior to it's lower priced alternatives.
It's like wine, aside from personal taste and marketing, how many of us can tell the difference in quality between a two hundred dollar bottle of wine and one costing three times as much?
A woman is entitled to charge as much or as little as she wants to, but thinking that a hooker who charges a grand an hour can really do anything that a woman charging a third as much is just buying into the hype she has created, in which case, good for her, and if the men she sees are happy, who am I to judge? BUT, I am not one of those people who thinks that just because you slap a high price on something it automatically makes it superior to it's lower priced alternatives.
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I can't imagine drinking the BP version of tequila AKA Jose Cuervo, but there are many modestly priced tequilas like Herradura, an almost empty bottle of which is sitting right next to me as I type this, which at about $40 a bottle is actually better than the higher priced Don Julio or Patron that are so popular.
Like many of us have said in this thread, "much of what people think is the "best" is just good marketing"
Or amost none. The fee is set by provider on how she sees it. There are providers who set their fee very high and practically
doesn't want to hear any argument coming from inner-her. That's an attitude. 800 or none. And she will be out of work, but woudn't consider to lower it. It seems to me that there are lots of good providers in 300-400/hr. league. That's an average. That's how normal people move when they don't want to take big risks. Law of averages. When you get there and the biz are moving up and ok, you can increase the price. Demand. Xo
A thousand dollar an hour hooker can get very jealous about her time and many tend to get very mercenary, as do many of the HDH's charging $500+ hr.
OTOH a woman at the exact other side of the scale at less than about $200 hr will tend to be hosting out of a dump, usually won't be the greatest looking women in the world etc etc etc.
My sweet spot is right about that $300 hr range where you get women every bit as beautiful as her higher priced counterparts, who can afford to host in a decent location, but isn't so full of herself that her performance suffers due to an overinflated idea of her own worth.
I am speaking in VERY general terms of course, but that has been my experience.
Yes, I certainly know what you're talking about.
There are some people in this country that believe
just because they are here
they should be Paid
can't live without. Happened to me in a strip club. Made her an offer she could not refuse and ended up in my hotel room. Was it worth it before I screwed her? Hell yes. Afterwards? Not so much. But. in my defense, I was very,very drunk. My point is that this is not similar to buying a car....where get what you pay for in looks and performance.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Of course I am lying, EVERYONE knows I consider that the MOST valid of excuses for doing something stupid. lmao.
Where it comes to pussy, price has very little to do with quality, and "getting what you pay for" is simply some much bullshit put out by women who overcharge for their services.
Don't get me wrong, I too am grossly overpaid, but at least I will admit to it.
and in your defense, let's suppose you didn't fuck that overpriced stripper, would you really have done anything that worthwhile with the money? I doubt you would even remember where you had spent it if you hadn't fucked that girl. At least this way you have a story to "share with the class" for your money. That's got to be worth something, right?
hooker experience in Montreal. I used one agency and they always treated me to something special. One East Indian girl was the type of girl you will never forget. Back about 10 years there was a Montreal Strip club that had ALL 10's, no 9's allowed. It was one of those places you couldn't wait to walk in the door, check your coat, and have your wallet emptied. Looking back I wish I had spent more.
Is 300 bucks.
I agree with GaGambler's post above. There is usually a difference between the low end and mid range gals, but usually once you reach a certain threshold there isn't much difference. Usually that threashold is around 300. That varies by area as GaG also mentioned.
In my area the diff between the $200 vs $300 is usually GFE level. I can get some pretty hot looking gals for 200, but they usually don't kiss and don't do BBBJs.
I agree with you, I feel like the price difference goes with that the provider is willing to do or not do, girls who offer GFE OR PSE style of service do charge more then girls who aren't as open minded. Here in Newyork I'd say average GFE girl charges 300-400 , I am not gfe so that's why my donation is 250 which I think is fair. I'm not big on kissing and rather use condom bj.
there are many guys who will enjoy your company.
but not a high percentage based on their rules .. but a gal could get rich on the less discriminating or demanding among us (awkward choice of words, I know ... too much wine). lol
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and a lot of variables, but in my experience it is menu, skills, looks, and age; not necessarily in that order.
I agree with it. I would also just throw out there that another possibility is that sometimes with a 200 woman, you can expect what you'd expect from a 300-400 woman, after a couple rounds of upselling.
but there isn't. There are outstanding ladies at every level. And even at the higher levels there are some duds. It truly depends on how well you connect with any given lady. Beyond that, there are those ladies who are here strictly for the sex. The money is just icing on the cake. Those ladies are so much fun.
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In some markets, I see a few wonderful ladies between $250 and $350. In other markets, I see ladies who are between $300 and $400. And then in one market I see a wonderful lady at $500 per hour.
Because I do a lot of research and I'm more of a connection guy, rather than a banger. I have found ladies that are all a lot of fun to be with, in their own ways for me . Regardless of their cost. Some are younger, some are older but they are all excellent at what they do and how they treat me, while I am with them.
Personally, I don't judge based on dollar value, because I really enjoy them all. I judge on the basis of if I can afford to play with them.
I don't judge mongers for looking at it other ways. I don't think there is a wrong way.
But I do believe pussy is generally pussy. As long as it's a clean, respectable, good looking woman there's not much difference. I've seen $100 for a hh that I could not believe only cost that(best bill I ever dropped) and I've seen $500 hr on a hottie who I couldn't believe I blew that on afterwards. Never again.
Just had a brief text "interview" with a hot newbie, brand new to it at 33, looking to be a SB. I told her I knew handfuls of beautiful girls at 2-3 bills per visit(I call it pay per view). She asked if I would pay more if it was "really, really worth it".. Unless she did magic tricks while riding on top or did my taxes while I took her from behind I'm not sure what would be more "worth it"..in the end, the sucking and fucking is the same act since the dawn of time. She actually agreed. Have yet to meet a magic hooker or civie.
She told me she would do "anything" to earn that fifteen hundred bucks that was due the very next day. I responded that unless in addition to fucking and sucking me silly she would also have to be able to paint my house and fix my car for me to even consider giving her that much. lol
For the record, she was NOT amused. lol
But we all choose our own rate scale based on our own personal calculations. We usually tinker with it to give us the right amount of business without burning us out or starving us. Sometimes we get busy IRL, so we have to cut down our hours and availability here, and thus our rates or minimums may go up. If we only do this part time, that may affect our rate, vs. if this is our only source of income.
It's very rare that one of us will just throw up some dumb rate to see if it sticks. There's usually a process and thought pattern to our rates.
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(the FEE) --It's like the valve on a water hose,
It's the way to regulate how much or how little
work one wants
The best thing you can do is your home work, and decide who to see based on your unique criteria.
The general explanation is that the higher priced ladies are usually hotter, and/or are better established in this genre. True much of the time, but far from always. What did I say in my first statement?
Is to take three photos of $200 pussies, and one photo of a $600 pussy, then shuffle them up and lay them out side by side. Do this with several different sets of four. If you can consistently pick out the $600 pussy in each group, then you should be paying the $600. If you can't tell the difference, like me, then you stick with the $200 pussy and don't throw your money away. Try it. It's an exact science.
You're forgetting the
MYSTERY and FANTASY
in the equation.
The big head may need sucked first
before the little head
Try this with the average wine drinker. Steam the label off of a twenty dollar bottle of Robert Mondavi Napa Valley Cabernet and replace it with a Opus One label and watch him gush about how great it is.
Just ask JLS/Corrine/GallopingGourmet about how guys are so stupid that they will pay hundreds of dollars more for the very same woman just because she advertises herself as a high priced "courtesan" instead of the rather average, aging woman that she actually is.
The truth is, most consumers are clueless, tell them something is "exclusive" and put a high price tag on it and the dumb fucks will beat a path to your door.
there is a reason that SALES is one of the highest paying careers...
For one thing,,,,, Not everyone can do it.
It's like the best Trial Attorneys,
The One with the Best Story,,,,
a STORY that grabs you and has you WANTING to Believe in it,
will WIN
What Is / Truth
has very little to do with it.
great lawyers know the judge
That's fine for the guys whose turn on is purely wanting to get off in a pussy.
That isn't my road. I'm in this for the full experience, and that's what I pay for. Damn, I could have stayed married. She was willing to fuck to do her duty. That turned me on about as much as ........... shit, it didn't turn me on at all. I need at least the idea that she wants it because she likes it.
The tease, the view, the play, the mindfulness, the excitement. And that sometimes costs more, not all the time. But, a lot of the time.
There is an old saying. "Happy wife, Happy life." And a grateful hooker is more likely to be happy. My experience has been that when the lady is happy, she shares that happiness. What makes each woman happy is different, hence the varying donations.
Not wrong, just different.
Sometimes, I wish I could be that guy that just wants a pussy. I would have a lot more of my money in my pocket.
I know you didn't mean it this way as you were expressing your perspective with which I agree, but in good fun I say...
" A Fine Sermon on Sunday Morning Sir"
I agree with you on what I want/need out of the experience and to your point, yep typically costs more for me too because I've never been able to do just an hour. An hour just doesn't get me where I want to be to enjoy the total experience.
Can you find that diamond in the rough? Absolutely it is possible, but I'd rather take advantage of the database provided here and do some research to see if it looks like it will turn out the way I want it to. Most of the time great success.
If I want in/out and move on, there is plenty of opportunity out there for those with that desire. No judgements at all for those who want this or for those who provide that experience. It just isn't my cup of tea. I tried it, bought the shirt, and it just didn't fit me.
I enjoy the longer experience which typically means less often but damn the memories!
Oh so true.
I enjoy the longer experience which typically means less often but damn the memories!
That would be like picking out the best wine by the label.
Now, give me an hour, no holds barred, with each of the 3 gals, and I bet you I'll peg their prices pretty closely
Use it for 3 hours with a $200 pussy, I get a much better overall experience than I do with one hour with a $600 pussy. The lower rate providers are not used to getting multiple hours from their customers, and most will give a customer booking multiple hours the absolute best effort they have, as opposed to an "average" one-hour session with a $600 provider. Most guys that do extended sessions with high-priced ladies don't think to employ the same strategy with lower-rate providers. I seem to get a lot out of it, but I guess it's YMMV.
The challenge is, and the area that changes the price tag,
is guys usually want
M O R E
than the Pussy...
If you just want pussy ,
and are not able to distinguish any difference,
they sell them in the stores for $19.99
They both should get you where you are going, right? If you have more money, you feel that you can afford higher priced goods and more luxury that comes with that. Providers price their "goods" at the price point they feel is accurate for the level of customer they wish to see as well as the value they place on their time and effort. Effort includes many factors, of course, such as time in the gym, marketing expenses, clothes purchase, travel and incall expenses, etc. etc. It is the wonderful thing about capitalism. If you have a product, you get to decide what you charge for it. If you are wrong, you fail. If you are right, you thrive.
My deepest apologies to all of you wonderful ladies for referring to you as "goods". It is the economist in me coming out. He does that sometimes.
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Every lady decides how much to charge. Some follow the market as a way to stay competitive. As for me, it is to minimize my volume tremendously, cater to my suitable companions and provide excellent service to those who wish to pay for it. Still words are to meager to justify so should you wish to find out WHY. Come for the experience.
Kind kisses
Zoe Piers
My deepest apologies to all of you wonderful ladies for referring to you as "goods". It is the economist in me coming out. He does that sometimes.
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The difference is, you can't put a Rolls Royce hood ornament on a Chevy and get half a mil for it. and that is EXACTLY what "some" women do with their pricing.
I will agree with most of your actual post, especially about the part about the market deciding if the price is fair or not. and my apologies for the "dipshit" remark, it's the asshole in me coming out. lol
His question is what is the difference (in looks service etc) between the different price ranges. His question had nothing to do with supply and demand or how ladies set their rates.
In the car example there is a huge difference in features and performance between the $25000 car and the $100000 car.
In the hooker world there ususlly is no difference.
Ok, I'll play this game. My first answer was about the rationale behind what someone decides to charge, in essence controlling her volume. You say that's not a good answer. So here's a sequel.
The market will decide whether or not her rate will suffice for her needs.
If a lady is billing herself as an extended engagement companion, charging whatever she wants to charge, if she is not the type of person who can easily navigate longer visits that require lots of conversation on varying topics, she won't succeed at that level. But the lady who excels at conversing on a number of topics, and in every other area expected of your basic companion, she will succeed. That's a *difference*.
Of course, then you can get more detailed about the kinds of guys (or ladies) who book extended engagements, and what kinds of things they like to converse about. Some who like extended engagements can chat with just about anyone about anything, so they will be just as fascinated by someone with less world experience as someone who is a little more sophisticated. Those people are precious but rare (Mr. Fisher is one here). More often, someone interested in this kind of engagement will research the lady they are interested in to see what kinds of interests she has to gauge compatibility. Her sophistication will make a *difference*.
A lady who bills herself as a PSE with rates to match, but hates anal, probably won't succeed at that price point. That's a *difference*.
Our "differences" speak to people interested in those differences
In reading your post it made absolutely ZERO sense to me until I figured out that you thought PS was responding to you, which he most definitely was NOT.
If you would just switch to tree mode it would be quite plain that PS was talking to Voyager, NOT you. A lot of misunderstandings would certainly be avoided if people would simply learn how to follow a thread.
He said:
None of this (for me) is adversarial- just discussion. 
If you would just switch to tree mode it would be quite plain that PS was talking to Voyager, NOT you. A lot of misunderstandings would certainly be avoided if people would simply learn how to follow a thread.
I see you flunked both Reading Comprehension and Econ 101. Are you a teacher or a car salesman?
and I would be a fool not to. If someone wants to pay me $20,000 for a weekend rendezvous, I'm happy to oblige.
Sweet kisses,
Frederica
Whether or not I or anyone else on this thread would pay your rates is completely irrelevant. The fact that guys DO pay your rate and continue to do so is all that is important.
Like you, I LIKE being overpaid, and while I shop for value in most things I buy/rent/lease, I am the last person to begrudge someone for being successful, my previous comments on the thread not withstanding. lol
Thank You GaGambler. I am a true nympomanic by nature, I absolutely love sex and what I do, but I'm no fool either. You are completely right.... I like to work smart than hard! Nobody pays my bills but me.
Sweet Kisses,
Frederica DeNere
...if a woman charges $600 and doesn't have it-she's out of biz very quickly!
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