I give credence based on the way the review is written more than the name behind it, and I don't pay any attention to ratings. Fish stories and puff pieces are usually pretty easy to recognize and dismiss. Sometimes I recognize names of reviewers who have reported similar experiences to mine with the same providers, but I don't make a fanboy study of it.

Do certain reviewers get your greater respect than others?

Does a review from Mr. BEEF get greater credence than one from Gambler? Oh wait a minute....LOL

You see my point though? Look at Mp's reviews. Mostly 10/10. Yeah right. Do 10's really HOOK for a living?

And some don't.

I look for multiple reviews and for numbers that vary. An honest reviewer will not throw out 9's and 10's to every provider they see.

Reviewers who throw out 10's to every provider they see have no credibility at all. They tend to post reviews solely for the providers hoping to get a pat on the back from them, and to boost their own deflated ego's.

No offense to Mikey, but his reviews are worthless IMO, as are the reviews by anyone who doles out 9's and 10's to anyone with a pulse.

I normally almost completely ignore the numerical scores anyhow, unless they are on the low side, with as much grade inflation out there, it is unlikely that any woman with 6's and 7's is likely to be anyone that I would be interested in.

Maybe some of us are just more particular than others? Even in Colombia, where there really  are legitimate 10's "hooking" for a living, I have guys trying to tell me that a six is actually a nine.

The only thing I respect is the number of reviews that the reviewer has. I don't care who's name is on the review and I'm not going to see a lady ONLY because some guy with 50 reviews says she is good. The reviews are only one part of the process for me.

Reviews are intended to assist and inform your fellow hobbyists, too many guys write them as advertisements for the women they see, at the expense of the truth.

It seems like many of the guys that review do so for the sole benefit of the women, and forget that relating mediocre and worse experiences will help other guys avoid the same.

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it's not too early "somewhere" and that somewhere is wherever I happen to be.

He was just a prime example of my inquiry. People seem to dole out 9's and 10's like candy. My question really should have been more specific to TER's ratings policy. I asked one of MP's victims(lol)how she justified her rating. She just chuckled and said she couldn't.

I'm an easy 9 when it comes to looks. Performance, i'm a mean SOB. You want a top rating?; your ass better earn it.

There are very few reviewers whom I would give the utmost credence to aside from LP. He's given me mucho information in the past which has saved me from a potential mishap.


Disclaimer: This isn't an LP shill! LOL

My 7 might be your 10 or VV.  I read the reviews looking for consistantly good performance.
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I watch for reviews by those that have a common history of ladies or similar tastes and watch those more closely.

I don't ask for a recommendation on a tear-jerker chick-flick from a guy that loves the Texas Chainsaw series...

We're all dogs here so as far as respect... hey why not, I'm in good company!

What I look for when running a prospective provider through TER is obviously reviews. If the gal has only one or two reviews, I'll look at who reviewed her and the reviewers history and length of time here. I spent some time with a gal I found on BP (which is sketchy in itself), she had only one review here but when I looked at the reviewer he had a ton of reviews going all the way back to 2004 which was good enough for me. I scheduled my appointment and had a great encounter.

As to the 10/10 part of your question, I really don't pay too much attention to that unless anything is below a 6, then I'll be a lot more cautious and quite honestly would probably pass. Also, I might look at how the reviewer scores in general, a gut like MP who rates high consistantly and then hits a provider with a 6/6 would immediately red flag that provider.

Also, it is so important to know that YMMV is huge. Maybe MP is a great guy and really hits it off with the providers he dates and because he is well received by them they frequently go the extra mile for him and do indeed receive justified high marks.

at a M & G, I will consider his review more than say some guy I do not know.  After being around for a while you get an idea of who has similar tastes to yours.

I too do not put much stock in the review scores, but rather what is said in the review.  For me, the only purpose of the scores is if I'm doing a search and I want to limit the results.  In that case, I will search 7-10 in both appearance and performance with a 7.0 as an average.  Look at pics and whoever gets my attention (pun intended) will be who I research further (reading reviews and checking availability).  Some ladies are just out of budget so I don't spend any more time looking at their info.

Where I do most of my hobbying, we run the gamut. Guys who give 10's just for the lady showing up.
and the habitually low scorers.  I agree with the previous post, there are reviewers who've seen the same escorts as I have, and score similar. I pay more attention to their reviews. But the bottom line it's in the juicy details.

One last comment, where I hobby, we have one reviewer who has brass balls, has done more than his fair share of toftt. I have seen a number of the ladies he has reviewed, when his review  is the only review posted for the lady.  This gentleman is always spot on.  

There are not very many good writers and not very many that feel passionately about what they are doing.  The reviews read like they are taking out the trash.  And most take out the trash the same way.

90% are pretty interchangeable too.  Especially when you read the top 100 reviewers.  

I would say there are a lot of review re-writers.  Few review writers.  

...so all high marks isn't necessarily a sign of generosity.  Just discretion.

Agree, this site is based on "all reviews"

But here's the deal, and SD69 got it right. I spend a lot of time getting to know these ladies BEFORE I actually see them. I don't just pick one out of the blue, say, 'Hmm, she's hot. Think I'll fuck her this week.' Then email her my references, wait for a reply, blah, fucking blah.

I've known these women for a while before we actually met so when we got together I had a killer time. Hope they did too. And to tell the truth? There's shit that happened that I didn't put in the reviews because you fuckers would sit there and say 'No fucking way!'

And ANOTHER goddam thing. I'm already prescreened for I don't know how many women right now. I can't count cuz I'm hungover, but when I talk with them on the phone, here, or thru email all I have to do is let them know when I'll be intown.

Or perhaps via careful research and planning.. one does not get a mediocre experience.  I am paying good money here,, I want to always have a 10/10 experience..    a minimum  9/10..


if not,, why bother?

I also have given lots of performance 10s.

But I also do my danged research before seeing someone. As far as I'm concerned, if I don't think a lady stands a really good chance of being a 9 or 10 for me, I see no reason to book her and pay; because I can get 8-9 performance from a local college professor who is compensated simply by my time and attention.

So maybe MP did like I do -- booked ladies he thought would blow him away instead of just rolling the dice at random.

I've given  8 - 8 's and the ladies will email me back and thank them for the review.  I've even given 7 for looks and ladies had no problem with them.

I've given some 8's as well. There's nothing wrong with it, and the ladies who thanked you were good folks.

I'm not really hung up on looks, so that doesn't much matter.

And in terms of performance -- I pay attention to nobody else's #s. My question is really can she blow ME away. I'm a unique guy. There are lots of ladies out there with a stack of 9s and 10s I know wouldn't cut the mustard for me; but ladies with 7-9s with other guys that I know for me would be 9-10s just due to personality issues.

What I'm saying then, is if I have booked a lady, it is because I have already ascertained that the odds of her giving me a truly excellent experience are quite high.

I can get "way above average" and "bordering on excellent" for free. So why pay for anything less than excellence?

So this would skew my reviews. Most would be quite high.

If I started randomly booking the least expensive ladies I could find with pretty pictures on Backpage, I'm sure the results would be different.

I'm just guessing MP does something similar -- books ladies he knows would blow him away. Thus, his reviews would be skewed but still honest.

Q) Do certain reviewers get your greater respect than others?

A) Yes new reviewers with three or less reviews have less credibility then those with multiple reviews. Reviewers that have seen someone I have seen also have more credibility as they are more likely to legitimate reviewers. Those reviewers I know something about also are more credible then those I know nothing about unless the things I know about them hurt there credibility.

Q) Does a review from Mr. BEEF get greater credence than one from Gambler?

A) I never read a review from ether and GaGambler can't write a review as he is a mod but based on both of there reputations I would give credence to their reviews. But not one over other until I read a few of their reviews and get a taste for their tastes.

Q) You see my point though?

A) Yes

Q) Do 10's really HOOK for a living?

A) I have only been with one 10/10 and she does indeed hook of a living. I bed her all the time and she never directly charges me any money. (Although she still costs me plenty.) Now I do know one man's 10 could be someone else's 7 as tastes and appetites vary so the numbers are useless.

Now in defense of MP's reviews he spends a great deal of time to know the ladies he sees so the chemistry is there to start with and he is far from the only guy giving 10's to those same ladies. Doing one's homework will increases one's odds of finding a 10. He may be a drunk but he does his homework on his paid dates.

As for me I likely will never find a 10/10 in the hobby as my menu is to limited and my natural shyness and social awkwardness is a factor. Plus my wife has me spoiled at home.

The only thing I give credence is the juicy details and then only limited credence to most reviewers. To many reasons to write a not all that honest review and tastes and preferences very greatly. My 5 is apparently someone else's 10 and my 8 is anther man's 5. I guess that is what they mean when they say YMMV.

And as far as whichever lady you talked with, I have an idea who, she was just practicing the art of being discreet. lol!

The fact of the matter is, like I said previously, I don't just pick one out of a hat to get my dick wet. I can jack-off to memories of the ones I've seen and save a lot of time and money.

My main deal is time. I don't waste it on people I don't want to be with. I like to think I'm meticulous in the fact I pick and choose whom I want to spend my time with, and hope they feel the same.

Fuck, I hang out with your dumbass. You might be an exemption, or is it acception, to the rule, though!

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for many. Let's face it. There are more than just a few drama queens out there who protect their turf (business) by brow beating clients that give less than stellar reviews/ratings, and often with the guys personal info, he has lots to lose if he doesn't comply.

Not all ladies do this, nor even most. I think many ladies get YMMV and that most guys ignore the odd poor review. Unfortunately, I am personally aware of too many examples of this behavior to think it's not a factor in this game.

Add the subjectivity of ratings... personal preferences... and all the other vagaries of this and the ratings (and even the details) are just a starting point. I am much more inclined to poke around and ask guys questions about ladies to see what really went on.

Finally, I would say that I am more likely to give NO credibility to certain reviewers than I am to give 100% faith to others. Whether they are WK, shiller's for their lady or whatever, there are (we all have our examples) plenty of folks with no review cred.

Well, for example, I wrote not a bad but not a great review on Kinley here in Chicago, and the next I know I get an unsolicited phone call asking about my TER handle and why I wrote that review, which was accurate.  Good thing I live alone, but folks need to be aware not all providers, even reputable ones, are discreet themselves.

Thank you, thank you very much!

Now I know why all the ladies love ya!  I'm surprised they don't pay you!

I don't roll the dice and see women at random; go looking through backpage for the least expensive providers I can find; or book based on pretty pictures.

Hell, every woman I have seen for quite some time has been someone that I believe had a way better than 50/50 chance of being a top-notch date. At least, for ME. Maybe for you, she'd be a horrible date -- but hey, I'm booking for me so how she'd do for you doesn't matter.

I mean, seriously -- even though I can afford it, I know the value of a dollar. I am aware of how many starving kids in Bangladesh can be fed for X dollars, etc. Why on earth would I book someone *at all* if I didn't believe she had a great chance of seriously rocking my world?

And you know what? I don't think I'm alone. I think MOST hobbyists try to get the best possible experience for their dollar. They don't go throw $500 at some random woman. Even if they have it to spend -- even if they are gazillionaires -- they know the value of that money and they try to select providers wisely.

This would mean that reviews, in general, would tend to skew high.

Isn't that the whole point of TER? I see some EROS ad for Miss WhosieWhatsit, look up her reviews on TER, see she has a stack of 5's, and pass. Then I see Ms. SuperHot, look up her TER reviews, see a line of 8-10s, and decide to dig a bit more deeply.

Who do you think would be the next lady I reviewed? The lady with the 5s? Or the lady with the 8-10s?

It's gonna be the lady with the 8-10s and surprise surprise, she's like to get another score like that from me because she is likely good at what she does.

The only way to correct this skewing would be to abolish all sources of information that hobbyists would use to improve their choices. Otherwise, any man spending money is going to try to get the most -- and best -- bang for his buck.

You should write the mediocre reviews. It adds to the information available for those providers. You can state in your review whether you feel it was poor chemistry or just poor performance of the provider, but either way more data is helpful to others.

Similar tastes, personal exchanges with the individual either here or via PM, number of reviews all cause me to take someone's reviews more seriously. Since the goal is safety and a good experience, it only makes sense that if I know a little about the reviewer, it means I also can be more sure about the experience I will have.

And some reviewers get much less credibility. There are clearly shills out there, whether they try to be shills or just can't help themselves. If a provider has only one review, and the reviewer has only posted one review, the review is essentially meaningless.

Zig

First let me say I pay no attention to “Appearance Scores,” as they truly are “in the eye of the beholder.” I generally let the photographs do the talking, before I decide for myself.

As for “Performance Scores,” they are very important to me, as are “The Juicy Details.” During my initial “Hobbying,” I was fairly indiscriminate seeing some Ladies who couldn’t have scored “3,” with help.

After taking a seventeen month hiatus from The Hobby, I decided that.

     1. I would ONLY see highly regarded and well reviewed Ladies. (On the
         occasions I have “TOFTT,” I have been very fortunate and have discovered
         some very, very talented Ladies)

     2. I would NOT Review a Lady if I could NOT give a Performance rating of “8”
         or above, unless they are a rip-off or deceitful in some way. (My intention here
         is to NOT hurt their business and I know that is a discussion for another time.)

Obviously, with these criteria, I do give some very good scores, with 40+% of my “Performance Scores” being 10’s. Consequently I would likely be seen as “too high a grader" by my fellow "Hobbyists," when that is definitely NOT the case. There are more than an equal numbre of Ladies I have NOT Reviewed, as I could NOT give them decent "Performance Scores." Some fairly well known ones I might add.

One of the things I believe we as Reviewers really need to pay attention to is the description that goes along with each Grade we give in Performance:

Once in a lifetime = 10
Forgot It Was A Service =  9
                                      Went The Extra Mile                          =  8

Given what I am paying lately and the infrequency of my “Hobbying,” I am definitely looking for that “Once In A Lifetime” experience each time I “Hobby.” I hope to be able to supply my end of that experience and I am looking for and attempting to only see Ladies who can and will supply their end.

Not an unreasonable or unattainable goal, I believe.


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