TER General Board

Etiquette....
carguy111 33 Reviews 1761 reads
posted
1 / 18

One of the things i miss the most about review listings is a general list of services offered during session. P411 seems to have categories, but what if the gal has really no categories listed?  What is the  appropruate way of making sure we are both in the same page?  

Just outright ask?, or is there a more apotopriate way of phrasing the question?

souls_harbor 158 reads
posted
2 / 18

If you're asking it's because she's new to you, which means neither are sure the other isn't LE. So that makes certain questions more dangerous. I would hold off on explicit questions until after some initial sexual activity happened, as then explicit questions wouldn't be any additional concern. That means, of course, some things you can't know until after the session starts. Hence the value of reviews.

Y0j1mb0 22 Reviews 166 reads
posted
3 / 18

A john looking for a hooker who provides services he wants has every right to know her dos and dont's before he pays 400 or 500 for her "time".  

As to asking about specific sex acts, don't do that unless the escort is well established.  Asking an unknown provider about explicit sex acts is too risky right now.
Posted By: carguy111

One of the things i miss the most about review listings is a general list of services offered during session. P411 seems to have categories, but what if the gal has really no categories listed?  What is the  appropruate way of making sure we are both in the same page?    
   
 Just outright ask?, or is there a more apotopriate way of phrasing the question?

mrfisher 115 Reviews 111 reads
posted
4 / 18

For example, gals the guy saw previously might have all allowed DFK, so he just assumes it is OK, but she does not.   Wouldn't it have been in both parties' interest to have asked?

I've asked many a gal many a question about services and never encountered a problem with asking even if she did not offer what I asked for.

impposter 49 Reviews 172 reads
posted
5 / 18

It wasn't a popular suggestion with everyone, but I used to suggest making CAUTIOUS references to her own reviews (when reviews were available). "I'm looking for the kind of experience Reviewers A, B and C describe (e.g., CIM without saying CIM). I think I'd be disappointed with what Reviewers X, Y and Z describe (e.g., no CIM)."  And she might reply, "A, B, and C are regular, trusted, good friends. X, Y and Z were first timers. Let's see how things go. No guarantees. YMMV."  
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How about referring to OTHER reviews? "You kind of remind me of Provider M from Montreal and Provider L from London. You can still see their  Profiles at TER ID # and ## (and read their reviews if you have VIP). Do you provide the kind of experience that Providers M and L do?" You still might not get a clear or definitive answer. Or you could at least get a still helpful, "Oh my. I definitely do NOT provide that kind of companionship! I'm glad we cleared that up! Ciao!"    
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Not ideal. Just a suggestion.

GaGambler 160 reads
posted
6 / 18

The risk you run when using your approach is that many women will feel you are trying to "entrap" them by admitting in writing that not only their reviews are true, but that in exchange for money you too could enjoy that very same activity with them.  

 
It's like using "code words" that everyone knows, Asking for a "tour of Greece" via email is going to get the very same response from 99% of providers as the more crass "Can I fuck you in the ass?" will elicit. Either way, it's very unlikely you will ever hear from said provider ever again.

gggdickson77 21 Reviews 180 reads
posted
7 / 18

Things have changed a great deal over the last little while. Personally, I try to set up a meet and greet in a public place so she feels safe and I feel safe. I meet her, she meets me. An hour to get to know one another. I will ask about restrictions she might have then assumed everything is ok. The second date is a dinner date and keeps it open if she is ok with me she can ask to come back to my suite.  Envelops can be in the form of thank you cards or special occasion cards with a gift inside.  

I am big into role plays and lord knows, now it is very much a cat and mouse game. I am not sure if that is acceptable anymore.

carguy111 33 Reviews 169 reads
posted
8 / 18

Im not even looking for the more “controversial” aspects. Simple GFE is all inwant. which i suppose is subject to definition, but not really anything that comes close to PSE.  

I honestly think its in the interst of all parties to be close on what is expected and what is within the comfort zone. Who wants to deal with that in the room in the first 10 minutes???

Senator.Blutarsky 165 reads
posted
9 / 18

...which I assume includes DFK & BBBJ, then one thing you could try when requesting an appointment through P411 is to request that the woman you're reaching out to review your profile to make sure you both are compatible. There is a place on your profile where  you indicate the importance of these things to you.  

While I haven't specifically requested that they check my profile, some do. In two instances, they replied and told me that they did not provide kissing. I thinked them and moved on. Of course not all women are going to be this professional but, in my experience most are.  

solo mis dos centavos

-- Modified on 5/30/2018 2:34:48 PM

carguy111 33 Reviews 151 reads
posted
10 / 18

I haven’t ever filled out that section. Wisdom of the crowd prevails.

imanalias 169 reads
posted
11 / 18

Know your rights, you have the right to remain silent, which the ladies prefer, you have the right to ask, but they have the right to remain silent or outright deny you.

On one hand you’re saying you have the right to know what your paying for, but then you suggest not asking.

 The hobby of ole was always a mystery. Never knew what to expect to get before forking out $

The advent of reviews took away most of the mystery and adventure, unless you were willing to see an unknown lady. Then you write a review and take away the mystery.

Too many guys expect too much now they are spoiled from reviews. Not willing to take the chance they ask stupid questions like what am I getting for the 400 I’m paying.

You’re welcome to ask but don’t be surprised what replied you get, if any. Good luck

carguy111 33 Reviews 192 reads
posted
12 / 18

If rates were always the same, then I am wrong, but my guess (having seen rate inflation during the ratings years) is that it was way less expensive to meet back then. Taking a risk at 400/500 + May be ok for you (some others) but it’s just more than seems reasonable to me.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 158 reads
posted
13 / 18

most hobbyists are sticking with the ladies they know by repeating rather than taking their chances on new girls.  I agree with Souls and GaG that you cannot ask what services are available from a lady you have not seen yet.  That's what LE does, and you never know if she has friends that she is going to email, saying watch out for new guy so and so, he was trying to entrap me.  Then you have really shot yourself in the foot.  

 
Unless the lady is a referral from some other guy you know, the first session with a new lady that you "discovered" on your own (and who's TER profile and reviews are still hidden) is going to be TOFTT.  You just have to consider that you are "taking one for yourself."  Personally, without reviews or profiles, I have been running about 50-50 on a scale that starts at "completely disappointed" a the bottom, goes up to "pleasantly surprised", and ends at the top with "holy shit that was great."  The fact that you can repeat with the good 50% averages down the cost of the disappointing ones that you, of course, are only going to see once.  

 
To answer your question, there is NO appropriate way to phrase the question about menu and specific services with a girl you haven't seen yet.  Its a suicide mission to even try.  

Drumguy25 23 Reviews 168 reads
posted
14 / 18

You know you can not ask anything. Even GFE will get you crickets faster than you can type it. It's gonna be a shit show from here on out. Clients are gonna get burned or left severely disappointed by shoddy providers able to cash in on the review blackout.  In turn, quality providers entertaining new audiences are going to have trouble filling the seats, because clients are going to become very wary of unknowns, and aren't going to risk taking a leap of faith.

imanalias 176 reads
posted
15 / 18

SW, yellow pages, other rag papers, you could find it for less.

But with inflation calculated the bests ones where word of mouth where you paid more but basically knew that you would have a good time.

I seldom give more than 300. I see those I have met before and a couple of agencies. Never an issue and always happy when I leave.

Before TER closed the reviews of those in the US ladies were suggesting you create a list of favorites. Could have looked up a few reviews copied them and been prepared.

I’m the guy who likes it now to be a mystery with meeting new agencies girls. My regulars I already know what I can expect.

Fortunately I still have variety with meeting new girls from those agencies. Always intrigued as to what can be expected from an unknown and lucky, I’m easy to please.

Good Luck

VincenzoG91 5 Reviews 162 reads
posted
16 / 18

I predicted that things were going to get worse for everybody in those exact ways after the big changes in April. But it appears that it will be a gradual process, at least at first. Quality providers are still getting a decent amount of business from repeat customers and regulars, who in turn are still getting quality experiences with the providers they know. As time goes on and people cycle in and out of the hobby, we will probably see a return to what this hobby was like more than 20 years ago. Without reviews, providers will compete primarily on price and pictures. Without reviews, clients will choose providers based price and pictures. Top providers will need to lower prices and increase volume of business, leading to shorter appointments of lower quality and probably a lot more upselling. Screening will decline and providers may go back to needing a driver/security guy, which is more practical for an agency than an indy provider.

GaGambler 174 reads
posted
17 / 18

I wouldn't go patting myself on the back too hard for "predicting" what was going to happen post FOSTA/SESTA, It was about as hard to predict as predicting the sun will set in the west tonight.

 
But I don't see as bleak a future as you do going forward, sure there will be some short term inconvenience and perhaps for a time things will go back to the way things were pre review sites, but there is simply too much technology out there to  force things back to the "bad old days" I am confident that even if TER doesn't come up with a solution, and I am hardly counting them out just yet, but even if TER does end up going the way of CL and BP, "someone" is going to figure out a solution, there is simply too much demand to keep us in the shadows forever.

eroticspirit 28 Reviews 182 reads
posted
18 / 18

Very well said---the combination of technology and demand for services will keep "our thing" going in some form---guaranteed!!

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