are you fucking dumb? we pay the lady for the hour, for their time not by how many pops. At least that what they stated on their ads. If the provider took off after one pop in 15 minutes and it's 1 hour session. Would it be a totally rip-off? and how many is considering multiple ? LOL more than 2 ?
Obviously it as not as much work for one pop guys.
Should rate increase for multiple pops?
Your thoughts if any
I would charge for a PSE if that were the case. I don't feel guys who treat us like cum dumpsters deserve the same break as those who treat us like human beings, so yea...after 2 pops per hour, I would.
Should rate increase for multiple pops?
Your thoughts if any?
I adore those ladies that allow MSOG; I just wish I was still able to take advantage of it.
However, if I did manage more than 2/hour, that lady would instantly get a loyal client & a significant tip as a sign of appreciation.
i had a guy do four pops in an hour once. i was amazed that he could still do that because he wasnt that young
You are assuming a two-pop session is more work. But there's always a "refractory period" where both players are resting (or, in your case, cuddling). Whereas, if it's a one-pop session and the guy holds off until the end, she's working the whole time. Perhaps she should charge more for that?
After 2 pops, that third one can take up to a damn hour and that's usually non-stop work. I've only come across two guys in 6 years who could go more than 2 rounds in an hour, and they were both from the same city in Fla. lol. One went 4 times and the other went 5 in 90 min. I saw them again, because we are friends but I would never do that for just anyone. They also treated me like gold, bought me gifts, and emailed me often just to ask how things were going in my life...I respected them, so I never felt like just a hole to fill.
So, if I ever charged by the hour again, I would NOT offer MSOG except to regulars. Sorry, but it's far too rushed for my tastes. MSOG in an hour is not GFE...it's PSE, because most always the time goes over and you are doing nothing but trying to get a nut out. In a two hour date where you actually have a full 90 min. of time to accomplish that on top of talking and drinking when you arrive, sure.
I concur. Now the term "gfe" is subjective in itself but because the gal kisses and provides bbbj, at least to me, does not mean she's gfe. LR is, IMHO, correct when she states that 2 pops in an hour is pse. GFE is an attitude, a connection so to speak. Just my .02.
Some are after as many pops as possible, some, like me, have limitations. I would love to go back in time and bang out 3-4/hour. Not gonna happen. So my attitude has changed with this hobby. It's tough enough to get two in two hours. But, the moments building up to that is based upon the gfe performance, not the constant jerkin of the Johnson. Stimulation of the mind can do miracles. That takes a true GFE provider.
Of course, there's no definition that's totally accepted. But I've never heard MSOG used as a criterion for distinguishing PSE from GFE. Maybe that's just the way it is out in bayou country! LOL! Whatever, my point was primarily that escalady had over-simplified re MSOG, a point on which I believe we agree.
Yeah, I was kinda vague...my apologies. In simpler terms...to get two cups from me in an hour would take constant sexual attention, i.e. work from the provider. Difficult to experience a gfe session that way. Therefore, I would regard it as a pse session. If the gal charged more for pse...than I would pay more. Of course, this is my situation but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
But, of course not lol. That's why it is MY idea of a PSE. Sorry, but with only a 60 min. date, 10 min. to chat and undress, and another 10 to do that upon leaving, you have 40 minutes of actual play time. You really think more than 2 pops in 40 min. is not basically using a gal as a cum dumpster aka PSE? I do, which is why I don't offer a damn hour lol. If I did, it would be a huge rate from jump, and I would discount men who booked an experience based date vs. a blow up doll date.
I think the term Hourly GFE is an oxymoron, and always have. Rushing through pops and positions to try and ensure at least 2 so the guy does not give you a bad review, is the farthest thing I would ever classify as a Girlfriend Experience. At a min. 90 minutes should be the standard GFE, and it would be for me.
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I agree....a GFE would be a long, steady sex session. I' can cum twice in a hour, but I never do. I take my time and get a huge build up and then release my huge load. I like it better that way... ; 
Jesu H christopher! My dick hardly works anymore, I can only cum once an hour (or even two) and now you want me to PAY MORE?
Really only one two word phrase I can think of. Can you guess?
last time I checked, most ads read:
fees required, or money exchanged for legal adult personal services for modeling is simply
for time and companionship ONLY.
You see anything in that about pops?! Now, if you pay for an hour, and it takes you 4 to get two pops, then NO, cause you only paid for an hour. but lets say you pay for 2 hours, and in the first hour you finish 4 times, and can go no more, what exactly do you do for the next 60 min....?????
Ladies always say we are paying for time not performance they can't have it both ways.
And for those who do want an extra I respond so its free if you can not make me pop
"The donation is for my time and companionship only…."
Why doesn't this mean exactly what it says? Extra pops should not cost extra--especially not for indy GFEs (which is the niche of the biz that most of the ladies of TER claim as their turf, and the gents of TER claim as their primary interest).
Anecdotally, it even appears to me that some of the more "seasoned citizens" amongst the gents are often not even up to ONE pop in a session, and don't even mind it; they genuinely enjoy the companionship, and are ok with some foreplay, cuddling, and conversation, even if the appointment does not end with a big O. Should these guys pay an even lower donation?
Yes, I understand that some providers don't fancy themselves to be f'k-machines; if they meet with a client who just keeps "going and going" (I know, these are generally the twenty-something type guys), they're well within their rights to decline to offer services to that client again.
For this little niche of this little niche-y culture of ours, this question is a no-brainer.
True, but many are confusing MSOG with PSE...the two are not one in the same. You can't say you want GFE and expect to pop 3 fkin times in less than 60 min. That is NOT GFE..it is PSE. Non-stop action is a far cry from a slow, relaxed, mutual date that GFE connotoes. What happened was the guys kept adding to their list of demands on what GFE included, and now we find ourselves here...calling a PSE a GFE so they can get the lower rate. For ME and ME only, I would never consider an hour with more than one pop to be GFE. It would feel rushed, rehearsed, and like a dog and pony show.
are you fucking dumb? we pay the lady for the hour, for their time not by how many pops. At least that what they stated on their ads. If the provider took off after one pop in 15 minutes and it's 1 hour session. Would it be a totally rip-off? and how many is considering multiple ? LOL more than 2 ?