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Dude! You gotta stop, ughhh!!! really
GaGambler 1273 reads
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You will see many guys respond with "if she wanted you to know, she would have told you" or similar type responses.

Much of the time these ISO posts are stalkers, of course there are legitimate ISO posts as well from guys who are simply asking if she has resurfaced under a new name or number with no such nefarious intentions, but many times these guys are the reason the lady went UTR in the first place.

Cosette 2560 reads
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I have seen repeatedly on several boards gentlemen asking for information on ladies - "she took her site down," "is no longer advertising," "used to be with such and such agency," "where is she now", etc.

If a woman doesn't email blast or advertise any longer, is it common for some people to want to try to find her? I ask because it doesn't make sense to me. Even if you are still an escort but you've had to change your name for a reason, I wouldn't want someone divulging, "oh yeah, she's now called this and this".

Gentlemen, why do you do it?

Ladies, what would you think if someone asks for you when you are no longer advertising?

Blowing Chunks 1084 reads
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f you're asking why some guys divulge info,  as long as the info isn't personal info,  I don't see what's wrong with sharing that on a site that is meant to share intel..

Dave76015 38 Reviews 873 reads
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Whenever I see those, I give the same basic line as GaG, if she wanted you to find her, she'd let you know how to find her.  
   
Personally, it doesn't matter why someone goes UTR.  Is she paranoid and changes websites weekly?  Is there a legitimate, serious stalker involved?  Legal issues?  Retirement?  Personal or family issues?  I think we can all think of ladies that fit every category.   It doesn't matter.   The "why" is irrelevant, only the fact of she's off the grid is relevant.    

It really pisses me off when I see some UberFcktards spill the beans on "oh she's using this name", or "here's her new website".   It's just flat out wrong.

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 882 reads
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I agree with GaG on this. While some of those posts may be legit and even out of concern for a former favorite or something, most are stalkerish, and most of those posts do get answered with "If she wanted you to know, you would know!"

VOO-doo 1107 reads
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This happened to me at one time, right after I was outed and had to do damage control.... A very stressful time, to say the least. A client with whom I had been in the planning stages of a date posted a question on the regional board rather than asking me directly. Luckily, I saw it as did one of my (more sensible) clients...post was reported and removed within an hour.

Edited to add: One of my friends had a guy do this to her, as well. It was no client, but an old sugar daddy she wanted nothing to do with. He wanted to know if she was still working, presumably to find her.

-- Modified on 2/26/2014 4:43:49 PM

russbbj 89 Reviews 1042 reads
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If my ATF were to advertise, if she was back of course, I'd fake a family emergency or something to get out to see her I'm a project lead with a March deadline so I'd only be hurting myself by taking myself away. My ATF was from an agency that was forced to shut down last year, I found out through inquiring that she retired from the life and started her own business outside the life and good for her/bad for me. I am very happy for her and wish her all the best success in this next phase of her life, no doubt she'll succeed in anything she applies herself to, she is that strong of a woman, while being incredibly sweet. But to your question when all of that first went down I was frantically trying to get a hold of her, to no avail of course.  

Why would I go to those lengths to see her again? Because she rocked my world. She is the most beautiful woman I have ever met in person, her action was unmatched and I liked her so much as a person that I almost couldn't wait for the down time to just be with her (naked of course) and talk. I've traveled to 5 different cities to see her, she is simply an amazing woman, there's no better way to put it.

WondersOfTheWrld 993 reads
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Some guys want to meet ladies they know are difficult for the masses to find and book. You know...it's about that exclusivity factor.  If they successfully get a date with her, then they've infiltrated that small circle of men, and tons of people feel special when they get to be a part of an exclusive crowd. Or they just want to see that "it girl" that they missed and hope that if they keep emailing her, they'll catch her when she needs money idk. Some ladies pull their site etc and go UTR but still want new clients, they just can't be in the spotlight with photos all over the net. So they may appreciate guys searching for them thru back channel. Idk it's negligent to post about these women on public boards through, b/c they may be dealing with a privacy issue. In some cases it's dangerous to back channel UTR whereabout's too. If a guy is a current client, it's best he ask her permission before passing on her info or confirming she still provides.  Not all guys are discreet though, which is why you see tons of the posts you refer to on these boards.  

To answer your last question, I don't advertise at all. I have a great group of friends and I don't prefer to add to that group, so when I get random inquiries from new guys (a handful every few months), I delete the emails. I don't think much of it but I don't want new friends anymore.  

From my iPhone

russbbj 89 Reviews 1188 reads
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So perhaps she didn't have my personal information. The reason why I would persue her is she was the best I've ever had looks and performance so if she was still out there but did not have the marketing talents (this was taken care of for her by the agency) perhaps she was still available. I found out she retired, and as I said good for her I wish her all the best in her next phase of her life.

Dr Who revived 1193 reads
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Posted By: Inspector Javert

Now Marius nor valJean will be able to hide you.  Are you hiding out with Eponine?

My ISO's on the TER boards finally led me to you.  Thanks to CPA and ADJ for those leads.  Your allegiance to the King...well, actually the Queen of TER...Ms. TER January who rolled over on Cosette will be handsomely paid.

 
-- Modified on 2/26/2014 7:22:47 PM

-- Modified on 2/26/2014 7:23:59 PM

Cosette 886 reads
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skarphedin 720 reads
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END OF MESSAGE

Dr Who revived 861 reads
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She tried to make it on TER....but too many nasty posters drove her away.  

Hard to imagine...she was a shoe in for 9/9's.

ZoePiers See my TER Reviews 984 reads
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I think, if a provider is good in bed, i mean ( A GREAT LOVER), guys will want to keep a tab on her lol. I love getting those emails that reads..

"Its been so long, when are you coming to town"?

Soon darling, very soon..

Cosette 979 reads
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Blowing Chunks 796 reads
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If she has no recent reviews, I just send the girl an email or PM asking her if she's still around.  ISO posts seem stupid, IMO cuz it's much better to contact her directly and just leave it at that.  No need to dig further especially when there are plenty of others to see.  

If someone asks about someone I have intel on, I'd answer but not if it's non-hobby related. I don't answer any q's digging for more personal info.  

Also, I don't know if it's an official 'rule' on TER but if the girl's profile disappeared from TER it's not a good idea to talk about her.

skarphedin 1017 reads
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russbbj 89 Reviews 3803 reads
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You are normally fun, lighthearted and yet your response today seems...I don't know how to describe it. You asked a question, I answered honestly as I always do and always will regardless of whether anyone thinks I'm a mangina (I actually like being called that based upon the descriptions of what that means

Dr Who revived 1058 reads
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And delist from TER you'll still find it exhilarating that some dude(s) are trying to find you?

Most gals disappear so they can't be stalked....guess others get off on it?
 
Posted By: ZoePiers
I think, if a provider is good in bed, i mean ( A GREAT LOVER), guys will want to keep a tab on her lol. I love getting those emails that reads..  
   
 "Its been so long, when are you coming to town"?  
   
 Soon darling, very soon..

Cosette 1069 reads
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Because I've been wanting to be a smart ass to those posts, for sheer fun.

Makes me think of when I no longer do this, the possibility of random people asking about me makes me feel a little uncomfortable.

skarphedin 1205 reads
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Cosette 767 reads
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Weird last couple of days....

But I did legitimately mean, even if she did rock your world, if the contact wasn't made, why would you want to pursue, you mentioned it was due to the agency, I gets it dude.

Cosette 1821 reads
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Dr Who revived 637 reads
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I always got her personal number for subsequent trysts.

That's just a BS excuse to try and follow any gal from an agency....if she didn't give the dude her private number she had little interest in seeing him again outside the agency.  And gals in the agency scene can easily avoid dudes and their stalking.
 
Posted By: Cosette
Weird last couple of days....  
   
 But I did legitimately mean, even if she did rock your world, if the contact wasn't made, why would you want to pursue, you mentioned it was due to the agency, I gets it dude.

russbbj 89 Reviews 1040 reads
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Perhaps, the guy wasn't sure if she really left the business in the case of leaving an agency. The agency has all the client information, perhaps the lady doesn't have the marketing skills that have been taken care of the entire time she's been in the business. There are a thousand different scenarios other than what you posed, and of course yours too. I wasn't stalking, as soon as I found out she retired and moved on I was happy for her, honestly. If she were to resurface I'd find a way to see her as soon as I could. Some people just connect with others, even if it's for only 3 hours at a time, and if she was putting on a show, acting for me, then good for her she was convincing as hell. I would never, ever, cross the line with her or any provider but I enjoyed every moment of every appointment I spent with this amazing woman. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, after all isn't that what I'm making a donation for, her companionship?

WondersOfTheWrld 1090 reads
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I just added a few to show there can be different reasons a man reaches out to someone UTR or retired. Or tries to find her..... Then, I put "idk" to indicate "I don't know" as if there's no one size fits all, so you know, idk why some pursue a UTR girl b/c there can be lots of reasons.  

Sorry that wasn't clear. I'll try not to visit this site while I'm cooling down on the treadmill in between commercials anymore.  

Take care.

russbbj 89 Reviews 789 reads
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but the agency closing was, well as most of you may know a LE bust to some extent, I suspect at first she was spooked that she could get dragged into it to some extent. I never saw her other than through the agency, she was loyal to them, and this speaks volumes to her integrity. She could have asked me to see her away from the agency at anytime and I would have been there, and she knew it. We communicated other than through the agency, I was always traveling to see her and I would ask which hotel she was staying at so that I could stay at the same place, after she took my legs away from me rocking my world I did not want to have to drive. But she respected her agency, and so did I, as I wouldn't have never met this amazing woman had it not been for them. Also, it kept the line real and tangible. I'm not a fool, she's hot and young, and I'm neither. But spending time with her was precious and I cherished every moment, and wow, she rocked. But all good things come to an end. I feel I'm a better man for having known her, if only for a short time. And, honestly, I'm very happy for her. She's moved on to a new phase of her life, she's such a strong and yet sweet woman she deserves every good thing that could happen to her and she really will succeed at anything she applies herself to.

Go ahead, call me a mangina. According to your description of the definition, I'm proud to be labeled as such.

russbbj 89 Reviews 1015 reads
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I'm not in the "hip and with it" crowd, I don't always know the abbreviations. And besides, this must have been your honest opinion, which I respect. It's just not everyone's experience, and that's what I was attempting to convey. Clearly, I am not as articulate as I'd like to be when writing in here as it seems I've been misinterpreted many times. I wear my heart on a sleeve as it were and give my responses honestly and freely, I'm not concerned about being labeled as a mangina, in fact I'm proud of that designation.

skarphedin 886 reads
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russbbj 89 Reviews 771 reads
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Cosette 908 reads
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Dr Who revived 674 reads
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So you didn't call her private number...or text her..or email her?

And if you did and all those options were gone (as in she closed all that shit up), why the search?

She moved on...and from your diatribe so did you.

That was the point of the OP....when a gal goes away...she fucking doesn't want to be bothered again.  It's not all that hard to understand.

But as WOTW points out...there are some dudes who refuse to let go...and they become creepy stalkers looking for any morsel that they can find.  Don't ever become that guy...it's just too creepy.

As for any allegiance to an agency...I don't believe in that nonsense.  But others do.  I guess you didn't hear enough stories about how many agencies work.  That's OK...you didn't really want to.
Posted By: russbbj
but the agency closing was, well as most of you may know a LE bust to some extent, I suspect at first she was spooked that she could get dragged into it to some extent. I never saw her other than through the agency, she was loyal to them, and this speaks volumes to her integrity. She could have asked me to see her away from the agency at anytime and I would have been there, and she knew it. We communicated other than through the agency, I was always traveling to see her and I would ask which hotel she was staying at so that I could stay at the same place, after she took my legs away from me rocking my world I did not want to have to drive. But she respected her agency, and so did I, as I wouldn't have never met this amazing woman had it not been for them. Also, it kept the line real and tangible. I'm not a fool, she's hot and young, and I'm neither. But spending time with her was precious and I cherished every moment, and wow, she rocked. But all good things come to an end. I feel I'm a better man for having known her, if only for a short time. And, honestly, I'm very happy for her. She's moved on to a new phase of her life, she's such a strong and yet sweet woman she deserves every good thing that could happen to her and she really will succeed at anything she applies herself to.  
   
 Go ahead, call me a mangina. According to your description of the definition, I'm proud to be labeled as such.

WondersOfTheWrld 961 reads
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russbbj 89 Reviews 903 reads
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He's been posting photos of some hideous women lately so I assumed this was another, no I'm convinced she is hideous.

Dr Who revived 1055 reads
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Ran an inn...took in poor Cosette...fucked up Eponine...rolled over on valJean...

Yep...that was Madame Thernardier from the Les Mis 25th anniversary show at the O in London.

And here you thought it was a new hooker in NYC asking for $ 1k/hr and demanding 10/10's...or else!
Posted By: russbbj
He's been posting photos of some hideous women lately so I assumed this was another, no I'm convinced she is hideous.

GaGambler 769 reads
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If she liked you one tenth as much as you liked her, she would have found a way to reach out to you. Actions speak a lot louder than words and you were a client to her and nothing more. She chose to disappear, and if you care for her even a fraction as much as you claim to, you will put her wishes first and allow her to disappear into the night.

I am pretty sure I said the same thing to you when you were actively looking for her, but I doubt I was anywhere near as nice about it. So yes, you are by my definition a mangina, not because you care/d about her, but because you couldn't let it go. That's why most hookers actually prefer us "assholes" we are much more likely to leave them the fuck alone when they want to disappear, just like they do when we want them to.

russbbj 89 Reviews 791 reads
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to find out what hotel she was going to be at on tour so that I could get a room there too, the whole not having to drive after she rocked my world thing. Although I had a cell number of hers I didn't call her, we saw each other for 3 hours at a time, and just because I had her number doesn't mean I should misuse that trust. As a matter of fact, she called me once, to let me know she had a cancellation so if I wanted to start our appointment early and thus end early so she could get more sleep before her flight in the morning. Of course I said yes and we did. so, when it all went down I emailed her, the email account was closed, I tried texting her to find out if she was OK, no response. I posted discretely on her a couple of times and because of a vague description of her another hobbyist PM'd me to ask me if it was her I was asking about, after I told him yes, he told me that he had seen her at a M&G and another agency was trying to enlist her for lack of a better word. But she told the agency owner she was going into her own business, which she had told me she was working toward while I was seeing her. It was that moment that I was happy for her, and I discontinued all further attempts to contact her.

Not that I had to explain myself, but I did anyway. There was never anything close to stalking here, I tried to find her, found out she started a business outside the hobby that she was working for and saving for while she was in the hobby and that was the end of things. Do I sometimes wish for my own selfish reasons that times were difficult for her and she'd return for a short period of time, yes absolutely. Do I really hope that happens? No, absolutely not! I sincerely hope she succeeds and I'm convinced she has and will. She's a very strong, wonderful woman.

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 868 reads
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Again.. I don't think I am allowed to have a say in this shit.
I am not rich. So I still see the girls here as women.... Peers?  
You know??? Regular friends you could talk to???
Where the fuck did they go?
I need a teacher dammit

AnotherDonJohn 1021 reads
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An example on the nyc board tonight.
The OP was looking for one of the girls from a high profile agency in ny that was recently busted in a similar high profile fashion. The girls all scattered and most went Indy.
Many threads have been started on multiple boards in the region, looking for these girls.  
The OP didn't flag it as such because agency is obviously delisted.
I mean that they're entitled to ask about the public knowledge of such displaced providers, not to stalk them.  

Otherwise, I'd agree. Leave them alone until they pop up again.

-- Modified on 2/26/2014 10:42:56 PM

russbbj 89 Reviews 807 reads
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The agency was suddenly shut down, approximately a month after I had last saw her. We had talked many times during our appointments and she told me she was working towards and saving for her business outside the hobby. There was never any indication that she was uncomfortable with me nor any reason for her to be. I'm an easy client, I don't ask for anything outside of what a lady provides, I never try to negotiate, I give exactly what is asked and I am the clock watcher, she doesn't have to be, I respect her time. Being that we had just seen each other a month prior to the unexpected agency closing and things were as great as they always were I'm convinced she didn't stage the agency bust and have the news post stories that the agency was busted and have the agency close the site (but just for me). Do I think I was anything more than a client to her? Hell no, I'm not a fool. I would be invisible to a woman like her if it weren't for the arrangement, no fucking doubt. I did try to find out if she was still active for a short time, found out she retired and I did move on and there wasn't any need for me to "allow" her to disappear into the night, she did.  

Done, period, good for her.  

There was never a stalking issue. And, I did let it go, this whole thing here started as a response to a question posed by Cosette, I didn't start the post. I've said it before and I'll say it one last time, I'm a better man for having known this amazing woman, and now she's off to greener pastures. Life, and the hobby is good.

russbbj 89 Reviews 652 reads
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that Jennifer Connelly is an incredibly beautiful woman

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 1185 reads
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I'd FEEL a sense of loss. I'd WISH she was still around. I wouldn't dwell on it (for any longer than was the kind of bittersweet pining you hear about in Country songs), and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't ACT on those feelings. Believe me, if I acted on some of the feelings I had a few years ago I'd be famous-- and history-- and not in a good way. Having nothing to with women.

So, I can understand how someone could get bent out of shape over this. Especially if they had abandonment issues (and I'll bet a lot of men wind up in the hobby because they have fear of abandonment and/or resentment over it), BUT the impulse is stupid. Really. The urge to take action comes out of a mind that's somehow in a stupor. All the ditch-the-bitch advice others give them, very wise advice in this situation, is ignored or hemmed and hawed away because the "lovesick" mind can't think clearly enough to see the light.

And Gambler, no I never worked in the carnival (well, not in the way you meant) and I don't own a TV. And the lady in question proved to be pretty much everything I described except she wasn't a WASP, but Italian instead, and she STILL lives on the East Coast. So my batting average remains high enough for me spout off in this high-minded way.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 846 reads
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People who have invested in me. A couple girls, and a couple guys. :)

Hopefully people who know how to keep their mouths under control in these instances

Roxie_Jabulani 763 reads
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If you you have to ask where I am, there's a reason why you don't know. Of course, I'd keep my regulars in the know.

inicky46 61 Reviews 1249 reads
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As are CPA and GaG.  Women have a right to turn the page and guys who can't let it go should examine why they can't.  To me, these are the guys who've bought into the whole GFE thing and bought the fantasy that she really gave a shit about them
Two examples.  One of my favorite gals has dropped out of my world with no explanation.  I have made no effort to contact her.  If she wants to get in touch, she knows how.
Another favorite (and well known gal here) moved on and we said our goodbyes.  She just got in touch yesterday with a few close friends to let us know she's making a brief return.  I told her I 'd be out of town but to please let me know the next time she returns.  If she does, I'll try to see her.  If not....

HooktardGold 1224 reads
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ask about delisted providers by name. It had over 50 likes last time I checked. If a woman goes through hell and back to remove every shred of evidence regarding her hooker persona from the net, it's a pain in the ass when guys are out there blabbing about her old name, email and phone number. What some of you don't realize is that it pops up n google. There are threads here that if you google a provider's name, that thread is already in the search engines with her name in it.  

I recall some idiot asking about a girl with no phone number on the net... it happened to be MY new google voice number that must have been recycled as they all are. I have been intercepted with random texts from other people many times thinking they were responding to someone else. GV is so dumb they will actually assign the same number at the same time to multiple people! Talk about a mess! I have never used a phone number on the net, and when I clicked her link, she also did not have that number in any of her ads. That idiot fked two people with one post.  

You can ask on the RO board, but doing it publicly is frowned upon. If she wants to communicate with her old friends, she knows how. Right now, TER is the only place I do that and I don't have VIP to PM... unless I report some dumb shit lol.

jgelement 10 Reviews 882 reads
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Jennifer Connelly is gorgeous, so is Megan Fox as well as Sophia Bush.

The difference between an ATF client of a providers, is one who is given a burner e-mail or burner phone vs. one who is given her actual personal e-mail and personal phone, which makes staying in touch immune from events like the bust you speak of.

Let me just say, the goddess you speak of is alive and well my friend.

inicky46 61 Reviews 886 reads
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Your subject line should read "ladies WHO can't be found."  The word "that" is reserved for objects, not people.  Conan is certain Cosette would no want to "objectify" a fellow provider.
Thus endeth the lesson.

russbbj 89 Reviews 843 reads
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I'm very happy to know all is well for her

Cosette 964 reads
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To read every post on that thread, freaking shocking and frustrating. On local boards it's every day or every couple of days. I don't get it, there's ads every day, women being available, you'd think that be enough without trying to get someone who isn't advertising. Human nature.

Cosette 962 reads
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Touche, yes you are correct, I would not want to objectify.

BUT, I also present that Webster's 4th definition of THAT as a pronoun is:
"(used as the subject or object of a relative clause, especially one defining or restricting the antecedent, sometimes replaceable by who, whom,  or which  ;)"

In this case I used it to restrict the antecedent (ladies), so I COULD have replaced it with who, but didn't have to.

I know, it's such sexy talk, I'm getting all riled up over it now.

AnotherDonJohn 769 reads
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that Miss Cosette is technically correct, according to a Q&A on the Chicago Manual of Style.

BUT, as a Huffingtonpost article points out, there is a politic aspect to the use. So, it's interesting that Miss Cosette falls on the counterintuitive dehumanizing side...

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