I want to discuss more about the age topic tread below.  I'm new here and some things seem a little off.  For example, I asked 6 of my civvie girl friends about the tread below about having sex with older men.  ALL 6 said NO way...they would NOT sleep with a guy that was 55 or 60 years old.  The women I polled were between 25 and 33 years old.  However, during the tread almost all of the women said they would sleep with an older man (55-60 years old).  HUMMM?  One thing is different....the women on the boards are getting PAID.  Is that the real reason?  Lets dicuss....

if your 30 or 60 it doesn't matter. This is pay 4 play. No envelope means no fun 99.999% of the time. Some guys claim OTC time but that's very rare.

I agree what is there to discuss?

If one of these civvie  girlfriends is hot, point to a very overweight or not-very-good-looking guy, and ask if she'd have sex with him.  

What I prefer in my personal life and here are two different things, because I am not dating guys that pay me. I prefer older men in the hobby, but younger men for dating. Why? Because we have more in common generally. Anyone over 45 maybe 50 is rarely fun like Gambler and Inicky are here, so I tend to avoid those types in real life, but if they had personalities like those two...game on! It is more about confidence and personality than looks that I base my decisions on, because as we know the right attitude can make a 6 a 10 in 24 hours. My ex was ugly as fk by most standards, yet I was head over heels for that fool

Just wait until you have read a thousand "I've fallen for a provider" posts.

and while I am not out there "chasing" girls twenty plus years younger than me, I do occasionally catch one, and I am not so full of myself not to know that many of these younger women are only with me because I can show them a better time, because of my bigger wallet of course, than the typical guy in his twenties or thirties can. but if you are repulsive, no amount of money in the world is going to get you too much traction in the civvy world. The best you can hope for is to get a bunch of very expensive dates with a gold digger that won't "give it up" until you have spent a hundred times what you would have given to a hooker.

I feel the exact opposite about taking a younger lady out in public, I like the looks from other hotties, and I can just hear them thinking to themselves, "I wonder what he's got going for him to land that hotty?" It might be embarrassing to you, but I happen to love being with the hottest woman in the room

I think you're putting too much weight into a casual conversation/question, a lot of people when asked something where one answer may adhere to social conventions and another doesn't may not have the energy to explain their nonconventional answer. Like asking married people, "if your spouse cheats would you forgive them?" Or "if your SO wanted to have an open relationship would you be open to discussing?"

Also trim and devilishly handsome.  Sadly, I break your "6 inch rule."  *sobs softly*

In Latin America there is absolutely no stigma for a man to be with a woman young enough to be his grand daughter. In the States we are so sexually repressed that people do indeed get the old "is this your daughter" comment. I've have it happen to me before, but never "down south"

Of course my opinion is evolving as well as I get older, I still remember thinking to myself when I was young "What is that hot young thing doing with that old geezer?" now I am that old geezer and I know exactly what she's doing with me.

I break the rule, too, but not by as much as I used to. I'll believe the "devilishly handsome" part when and if I ever see it.

If you're talking about civvie women looking for a relationship, they are mainly looking for people their own age and of their generational culture.  If they are family oriented, they are looking for men of a certain age close to theirs that will have the energy for a family.  Values, mores, commonalities come into play.  There exceptions to every rule, before you people jump all over me on this.  

I just spent time with does not have to go into the bathroom after I leave and put her fingers down her throat!

It's just what works for me.

I guess there is no stigma for a man to be with what amounts to little more than child in many Muslim countries, but the trade off is a thousand times worse.

The only thing positive I can say about "machismo" is that is makes even a gringo pig like me look like a "nice guy" in comparison.

very few guys under the age of thirty would be getting laid unless heir to a fortune.  

Yeah I agree, they are delusional in thinking that it would be their looks that are getting them regular girls (of course unless they look like an actor or something). But money doesn't have to be the only factor in the girls liking them, they can be attracted to the safety, the fame/prestige, etc.

I think confidence is a turn on for almost everyone. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not attractive, I'm 50 a little over weight not in the best shape. But I'm confident in my own skin, in who I am and I've been with some really hot women in the hobby. I've never once been shy about being naked in front of any of these beautiful young women and if I read body language correctly I've never repulsed any of these women. I believe this is because I am comfortable and confident in who I am. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I would be completely invisible to these women if it weren't for the arrangement and that's ok, if we were all beautiful then none of us would be beautiful. I'll say this though, of all the beautiful, young sexy women I've been with, all of them have been eager to see me again. That is certainly not for my looks or sexual prowess.

Sure, there's no stigma for a man to be with a woman young enough to be his grand daughter in Latin America, but there's other constraints just as arbitrary, like the stigma of a woman working, or making more than a man, those are still very much in place, and frustrating to an extent.

So what if a woman makes more than a guy does, ego=stupidity. My ex made nearly as much as I did when we were together and now she makes more. All that meant was that when it came time for the divorce we both left with an even split, she kept her portfolio and I kept mine, I'll admit that ours was a very civil amicable split. But if I had married someone that made considerably less than me, she may have saw fit to go after my money. All she got was the dog, dam I miss her, the dog that is. But I have dealt with enough South American men in business to recognize the macho ego thing, so I get what you mean, just don't understand it.

They said no to the general concept of older men.

I've been trying to figure that one out for maybe 20 yrs, I'm sure some anthropological reason. My father is married to someone 20 yrs younger, but god forbid she may make more. Nice man though.

Those young women probably have never been with an older man. So they don't know what they are missing. I must admit that in my 20s my last desire was to be with an older man. But it happened one day while traveling abroad, just by happenstance, and it was such an amazing experience! How different that man was from the grunting and rutting 20-somethings I'd been with! At that point my body knew it liked older men.  

A very close friend of mine is married to a woman who makes about three times as much as he does. She's attractive, has a killer body, and treats him like a king. He's a bit overweight, not what most people would say is good looking, but treats her like a queen

And it's happened more than a few times, once, in fact, with you.  Last time I was with a gorgeous Korean/American girl (not a K-Girl, raised here; doesn't provide the standard K-Girl service) and a friend with another curvy hottie.  The gal with me was barely 20 and looked it (even poured into a skin-tight mini-dress).  I was fully prepared for some old biddy to come up and say, "Shame on you!  She's old enough to be your daughter!"  I would have replied, "No, madam, in fact she's far too young to be my daughter." LMAO!

This is Clint Eastwood at 63. To my knowledge he's never had plastic surgery, so what you see is what you get.  

Sheesh.  This guy is just too stupid for words to express.

a bit and lighten up the boards after a day or two of very heavy and intense (not so much fun) threads.  

It is the kind of post FIDIOT would make and is replete with mis-spellings ("dicuss"). His handle lacks intelligence but is still arrogant. All the signs are there. I'd say you're right.

Sean Connery was still hot at 80!

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Yep. The only difference I think age really makes is that you can be smart when you're young, but you can only be wise as you age and gain experience.

My father, God rest his soul, developed a very strong attraction to Barbara Eden of "I Dream of Jeanie" when he was in his 70's. He got every episode of the sitcom on tape, as well as movies she'd made (I didn't know she'd made any). He had Barbara Eden everything.