A buddy visited an AMP and was caught. He was detained and allowed one phone call. Unfortunately, that call reached a voice mail, and he was ignored overnight. He was detained for a good 15 hr before he could get bail.
Dumb question: Who should people call in such a bind? Certainly not their wife or sister. And lawyers will give you voice mail treatment at 8 PM.

Mine has a 24 hour answering service that will get either him or a stand-in 24/7.

Maybe you have his/her cell number and can get them to respond...but the "good lawyers" I know aren't available 24/7.  But then they aren't cheap either.  Plenty of "hacks" around who hang around lock-up looking for losers who end up there.

Best to do your homework on a lawyer before your need one. I memorized his number. Never ever deal with LE minus a lawyer when your the defendant. Most quality law firms have a 24 hour number. That is who you call.

a lawyer on retainer is just plain stupid.  Dumb shit mostly happens to dumb people.  As Fish says, make sure you get one with a 24 hr answering service.  If they're already on retainer, then attorney client privilege also extends to their staff and answering service, so you can leave all info and not worry about being outed.

I guess you and mrfissure have the same tools handling your "retainers"   LOL

A best friend will be in jail next to you.

Yep...you must be a friend of El Chapo  

Attorney's_R_Us fucked me when Bob Sugar screwed me with that lemon Bentley he sold me.

Plus they tend to specialize in misdemeanors.  

I don't understand all the peeps in here who think their shit don't stink!

Or brother? Or cousin, Or good friend? Where were you? Why didn't your buddy call you? I can see not calling the wife, but you should have someone you can count on who would be available and who would answer their phone and who would bail you out. If not, call a bail bondsman. Their phone numbers are all over the place.  Call a lawyer the next day after you are out. I really don't see the need to have a lawyer on retainer.

Trump is great for small business like me. Except for the guys he fucked over when he filed bankruptcy.

Maybe you need some more paranoia in your life to fit into these boards?

If you are a big business owner, executive, politician, celebrity, etc., then you probably already have an attorney on retainer and if you don't then you should. The average everyday Joe has no reason to have a lawyer on retainer and the majority of hobbyists are average everyday joes. They are not "just plain stupid."

There was only one responder with multiple negative responses.  Give him a break, he does not know better.

Pay deposits to escorts? Or are the ones who say never pay a deposit?

My only reply to the OP was quite cordial.

I've been reading about that for years now.

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Pay deposits to escorts? Or are the ones who say never pay a deposit?

The air can be a bit thin up on that high horse of yours.

Actually I do not pay any retainers, deposits, etc.  My main claim was that at that point there were not multiple negative responders just one.

My deal with him is I have several frozen lasagnes stored and ready, should I get busted.  All I need to is trigger the shipment of one said lasagne to mrfisher's Fortress of Solitude and he will call with his best advice.  Then he will thaw the lasagne, eat it and go to bed.
I know I sleep better at night, too.

Maybe next time add something of value to the thread.

The $ 500 only gets you a reach around.

a business owner and I have three attorneys on retainer, corporate, tax and criminal.  And no, I don't discuss potential crimes in advance.  That's even more stupid.   Not surprised only you would think of it.  You're making shit up because you have no experience with attorneys.  

You really are quite the narcissist.  

I'm not sure that those flip-phones with the 30 minute a month plan will work when you need it.

You never have any constructive advice from your own hobby experiences like most guys here.  You just like to stir the pot and make negative comments.  You're the one who is entertaining because you're just a lurker here and don't know shit about hobbying, legal issues associated with hobbying, or how the business works.  Can only conclude you're a total phony.  Unless you can prove you're a real hobbyist, you're not worth any more of my time.  Go ahead and have the last word, its what a little shit like you lives for.  

I am not on the P & R board often.

He even asked me to write a chapter on negotiating.

Now he is a total asshole, I cant deny that, but a real hobbyist asshole nonetheless.

Details are important.

Second you never ever discuss illegal activities with you lawyer until busted or at least under investigation for a crime. Doing so is not wise. No dumb shit that is not how you do your homework. You look up trial results and areas of expertise. You check reviews. Never mind your clueless.

screening the damn phone line that he's given you after you gave him the really big retainer.  Then the answering service calls the associate at 4 AM who then bails your ass out.... without disturbing the really good lawyer.  

I will always strike back.  There are three of me on the boards:  Sometimes humorous, sometimes informative, and sometimes controversial.  I'm surprised a veteran with your experience and eye for detail would not have noticed the three types of posts I do.  Not to mention if you knew who I really was, you would have a good laugh on that score alone.  That's why I remain completely anonymous in my hobbying.  No provider, booker or other hobbyist can link CDL to my real ID.  

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Bail bondsman, that's it ...

He did call his cousin and wasted that only phone call.  
I was in Hawaii and wouldn't know how to help him anyway.

So I'm not sure why would need yours! Maybe ya'll should have a lasagna cook off and I'll be the judge!!!

Good criminal defense attorneys get their business after hours.
They know what their business demands are and the successful ones have lawyers on call 24/7

In cases like that you don't want a " good " lawyer ....you want motherfing Saul !

Was to a provider who wouldn't be as big of a target as an AMP.

I stole his lasagne recipe the last time I visited The Fortress of Solitude.

There are a LOT of us who can attest to the good Doctor's mongering chops. To claim he is a "phony" is a weak and specious defense against his "mostly" accurate attack on your statement about keeping an attorney on retainer. Or at least having a criminal attorney on retainer, specifically to be on call if you get popped on a simply charge of solicitation. I like you CDL, but that statement was beyond dumb.

This is a pretty good question. I've often wondered as a provider if I should have an attorney on retainer. However, when I made an appointment with one, they said I couldn't put down a retainer due to the fact that I hadn't committed a crime, and that planning to commit a crime wasn't something I could put down money on either. Granted, I was upfront with my work.  

A relative of mine did that awhile back when he got his concealed carry license.  He wasn't planning or even thinking of doing anything unlawful, but he thought he'd line up an attorney who had a strong case history in that area. So he talked with the attorney and he agreed he'd represent him should he ever need it.  There was no retainer involved, but my relative knows exactly who to call if he needs legal help quickly.  As far as backup cash, most attorneys take credit cards too.  

call a bail bondsman. Like PS said, their numbers are all over any jail in the country. Solicitation is a misdemeanor, the out of pocket cost to get out of jail is no more than the cost of the session you were planning on having.  

Hey, thanks to all for many good info, some news to me. These ideas should be documented in a book, such as GaG's 10% bail, Scoed's VISA, FatV's call to indie provider, etc., etc.
Will any of you more talented in writing pls pen that book "Hobby for Dummies"? It'd be great contribution to the community.

You pay on the off chance you get caught. That's if you want to bother paying a retainer, which I don't think is necessary or a good idea for hobby-level charges.  

Having one vetted who agrees to represent you should you need it and having number memorized is an excellent idea. (Your phone can be seized as evedence. Also having money for bail and attorney fees which can be quite expensive.

He most definitely IS the "old" CDL. I'm not sure when was the "young" CDL.... some time in the (18)50's? Clearly, it well predates my less than one year of membership in this forum.  

First off, there is some really good advice on here and some really bad advice. Bocabob gets it right, as do some others.  

Except for the part about me being old. FYI, I AM younger than a lot if the guys here.  Well, maybe not a lot, but at least a few.

Being in the gutter. Try it sometime. You might like it.