A question for the ladies.
In your personal life, does the height of a guy matter all that much. And how short is too short for you to go out with.

I think I would feel weird going out with a guy who was my height or shorter. The good news though, is that at 5'1", it is pretty rare to meet a guy who is my height or shorter. I like guys who are taller than me, but it doesn't really matter much to me how much taller than me they are. If a man is 5'5" it makes no difference between another who is 6'5"

There have been numerous studies done on this subject (20/20, Dateline, etc.) The conclusion drawn on everyone of them was that height mattered a lot.

They would select gentleman ranging in height from let's say 6'5 to 5'1, and ask women to choose which man they would go out with (none of the men knew any of the ladies beforehand. The women were all of average height). No matter how attractive they made the 5'1 guy to be as compared to the taller men(i.e. he was incredibly wealthy, volunteered at homeless shelters, was a professional model, a Rhode scholar, etc.) the women simply stated he was too short to date. They readily admitted that height mattered and they would prob. not go out with him.

Most women I have spoken to as well (non-providers) indicate that they would feel awkward dating someone who was smaller than they were. Most preferred men who were at least a few inches taller. While obviously there are exceptions, as tall women do in fact marry shorter men, in general I have found that height mattered.  


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I have some experience with this.  While I am tall (6-2), my closest friend for many, many years is only 5-5.  His whole life has been making attempts to counteract his lack of height.  He was a serious weightlifter for many years and is well built.  He is always the life of the party, and hosts many.  He ended up marrying a tall, extremely beautiful (freckled) woman (who towered over him at their wedding).  Even as he is obviously cognizant of his height, it has never publicly bothered him and he jokes about it all the time.  I truly believe, and this is biased because he is my friend, that any women that passed on him because of his height missed out.  Their Loss!

My wife never liked the idea that I was a little shorter than she and even made me wear elevator shoes.   She never conceived of having a date, let alone a husband, as short as I am.   But she got used to it, and after 43 years she finally has accepted my height.  LOL

I wouldn't feel comfortable seeing someone that's shorter than me (I'm 5'2").

I prefer gentlemen that are 5'7 and taller.

Yup. I saw a study a long time ago, I think in my psychology class, I dunno. They had 5 guys, all decent looking attractive fellows, that they showed to two groups of women. One group of ladies viewed the men sitting down, thus guaging a man's height was not as easy, and had them rate how likely they would be to go out with each guy. The ratings were roughly similar across the board for all guys. The second group of ladies viewed the men standing side by side, thus clearly showing their height differences. Again, the women rated their likelihood of going out with each guy. The shortest two men, who had recieved equal ratings from the first group of ladies, got very low ratings from the second group of women.

So yeah, height does matter. But for me, I think I do like guys under the 6' mark because then I don't get a crick in my neck just tryin to look em in the face - or smooch on them. Being over the 6' mark certainly isn't a deal breaker though!

So should I come on my knees next time?

My 2nd husband was only 5'6. That is short for a gent.

I don't care if the guy was 4 feet tall.

He would be at the perfect height to lick my P**sy!

Way back when my dates weren't business arrangements, I preferred guys that were 5'10' to around 6'2". I would not date anyone who was shorter than 5'5". I wanted him taller than me even if I wore heels (I'm 5'1").

My, how things have changed...

I've dated a shorter guy before and he was the one conscious of it. What would attract me is the personality,character and confidence of the guy not his height.

In this case, the short guy was indeed insecure (not just his height) and called me a stronger woman than he was. That's one reason why it didn't work out eventually.

and look at how much your friend felt he had to do to get the same consideration that most average-height or taller guys take for granted.   I'm shorter than 5'5" so if your friend thinks he's short...

My ex-wife is taller than me and told me that many women won't even go out with a guy the same height as them, much less a shorter guy.

I wonder, roughly speaking, what percentage of providers' clients are shorter than them?

If a woman is between 4'9" to 5'5" there's not too much to worry about. Just about all her dates will be taller than her -- lucky dog. I ended up dating a lot of men who were my height or shorter growing up (but I was hit by the love bug before I had a chance to decide). However, lately it hurts my back to have an arm around me while walking if they're shorter than me. I have to hunch over and it kills my back. Plus, I like to feel like the feminine woman and it's hard if I'm looking down at someone. I'm not saying I'd never date a shorter man, but it's highly unlikely. Besides, I'm learning to stand tall and be proud of it. I don't want to go back to slouching. Where's my Teddy Bear?

I guess I don't have to worry about this topic right now, because I am not currently dating anyone.  But, yes! Height matters to most women if they are honest about it, but they're too afraid it will cost them business. Silly geese, didn't you know twicks are for kids and we are all the same laying horizontal. They don't have to be really tall, but they need to be a little taller than me so I can still wear heels. Otherwise, I will probably feel the need to do the ass-kicking if something bad happens, and I don't want to throw a hip out again. Bawawawawa  Actually, the perfect height for me (in the dream world) would be between 5'10" to 6'2".

Hugs,
Ciara



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Sometimes it's good not to ask questions if you don't want the truth. Just kidding, hon. But really, who cares in the business. I think the original poster was referring to civie relationships -- quite different.

Hugs,
Ciara

but how have things changed?  Do you no longer care about height or do you have to make certain compromises for the sake of business?

I'm very tall (6'3", but I seem taller because of my broad shoulders and long arms and legs).  But when I was growing up, most of the shorter kids were getting more attention from girls than I was.  This continued into my adult years.  I was always decent looking; some would describe me as handsome, so it wasn't my looks that kept the girls away.  

But it seems that two qualities are essential for a man to have, and height ISN'T one of them:  success and confidence.  I believe you'll find, if you think about your male friends, the ones who are the most sexually active are probably also the most confident or successful men in the room.  Women want a man who projects confidence and an aura of success.  Not bullshit confidence -- the real deal.  

Why am I telling you this?  Because I'd hate for you to read some other posts and think that height is a panacea for a lackluster sex life.  Is being tall a good thing?  Well, it's better than being short I guess, but it hasn't really affected my life, one way or another.  So cheer up.  I know you only wanted to hear from the ladies, but I also figured a response from a tall guy couldn't hurt.  It helps to have all the perspectives on an issue.

But at least it would keep us in the game.  Many of us shorter guys are instantly dismissed due to our height.  If were were given a fair shot, we wouldn't come off any worse than our taller counterparts and maybe even better - if given the chance.

If we were taller, it would guarantee nothing, but it would be one less barrier to contend with.

BTW, what do you mean by "success"?  If I looked like I could blow $10,000 in a night and not worry about it, of course, my height wouldn't matter.  Bill Gates looks like a dork but who wouldn't fuck the richest man in the world?  If, instead, he was in our financial situation he'd be on these boards right now.  It you mean it as a matter of attitude, wouldn't confidence already cover that?

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Especially if it's painful.  It makes people uncomfortable because many would rather live with a beautiful lie than an ugly truth.  I think the truth is both ugly and beautiful but we shouldn't cherry-pick only the truth we like.

But I digress.  Thanks for the clarification.

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I usually date in the 6'+ range, just because of the nature of my day job... My ex husband was 6'4", and being that I'm only 5'3" on a *good* day, things got a little awkward at times. I feared for his future back problems, always having to bend down so far to kiss me and stuff.

It is nice to have someone around who can reach the top shelf of the cabinets, though 5'10" would be nice...

Hehe.....on your knees is fine by me. That just puts you in a better position to practice those arts that you "claim" to have only just learned even though inexlicably you seemed to be quite an expert at in my (humble) opinion.

I no longer care about height. Gentlemen come in all shapes, sizes, and heights.

I need more practice i think

.... quite the experience.  Never been with a woman I couldn't move around before.  When we were in Mish, I thought I was on top of an active volcano.

Most women will say that they prefer their dates to be taller (as the studies cited above indicate).

However, height may not be important in the selection of a mate.

Many years ago I had this discussion with a woman who ran an introductions club in Los Angeles (singles to singles and couples to couples).

When couples joined they had to list both their heights. I calculated the fraction of couples in which the woman should be taller if height was not a factor in selecting a marriage partner.

The woman who ran the club then went through the club's couples membership list to see what the actual fraction was for marriages in which the wife was taller than the husband.

There were several hundred couples and the actual fraction was essentially identical with what one would expect from chance alone given the average height and standard deviation on height for both sexes.

The conclusion was that no matter what women say, height is not a factor in the selection of a husband. It still might be a factor in dating, of course. Short term relationships are not formed on the same basis as long term relationships according to a number of studies.

To answer your question about success vs. wealth:

Success often results in money.  But not always.  Successful people are people who have a goal, usually a career or business goal, and use their talent, brains, or persistence to achieve it.  By this definition, a talented artist is successful, though he may, in fact, be starving.  A lottery winner, or a wealthy heir, is not necessarily successful.

Read a bunch of womens' personal ads, and you'll see what I mean.  They seldom ask specifically for someone wealthy.  Women almost always specify that they are looking for someone who is "employed," or "established," or "successful," or "ambitious" etc.  This is a euphemism for a well-paying and/or cool job.  Not all "cool" jobs are well-paying.  A professional guitar-player makes less money on average than a sanitation worker, but which one attracts the ladies?  

As much as we may believe that money is the end-all and be-all, I know it isn't.  Being in this hobby can sometimes cloud our vision, and at the end of the day we may be left with the illusion that all women care about is money.  It just isn't that simple.

5' 11" at your service

Thank You
2007=27

That way I don't get beat up so much when i get caught