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Does Bad Info Get Passed Back Channel
Zak0326 33 Reviews 2402 reads
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When getting information back Channel is it ever bad Intel? I talk to one person I trust but when it's someone you don't really know does bad ever been given out.

Discuss

Larissa_Sweets See my TER Reviews 439 reads
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VOO-doo 421 reads
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3 / 40

Obviously, if there's a safety issue of any sort, I'll let the other girl know immediately.  

If there was a minor issue with the guy (hygiene, overstaying, etc) I'll just say something non-committal, like 'He's safe to see.' Other escorts cannot be trusted to keep information to themselves (when I've given negative feedback in the past, I've actually had girls tattle, or refuse appointments in such an indiscreet way that it pointed back to me). So my thought is, if I would not feel comfortable with the guy reading an email, then I will not send it. Because he very well might end up reading reading what I wrote about him.

Personally, I always sing a guy's praises if he's nice. I think that most other women do the same...so, when I get a noncommittal comment like 'He's safe,' or 'He's OK' I know that something's up.

Freya Fantasia See my TER Reviews 436 reads
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From another provider blacklisting one of MY clients in good standing.

When I found out what the cause was (two sides to the story), I totally believed the client in each instant and I felt the provider was being petty and vindictive trying to destroy a hobbyists reputation over nothing, basically.

I'm prone to believe providers when they have something negative to say about a hobbyist.  In these two cases I knew it was undeserved only because I knew the guys.  So, how many times could that have happened when I did not know they client and simply blacklisted him?

GaGambler 290 reads
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5 / 40

There are both shills and backbiters passing information along BackChannel.

but by and large, BackChannel info can be trusted a lot more than public reviews, but like anything else, consider the source before blindly accepting or rejecting BackChannel info.

1192967 45 Reviews 244 reads
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6 / 40

...inaccurate or are you asking if bc sources share the truth about the experience when things didn't go well or the provider didn't live up to her reviews, photos, etc.

I've never received bc intel that wasn't accurate though I'm sure it's happened at sometime to someone.
Plenty of information is shared bc about things not going well though again I'm sure it's happened where negative information wasn't passed on when it could have been.

GaGambler 262 reads
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JackDunphy 288 reads
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Girls will say "we had a beer, and it was skunked."  

So I'm told. Lol

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BigPeterJohnson 38 Reviews 275 reads
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BigPeterJohnson 38 Reviews 362 reads
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10 / 40

a provider told me i was on a site which listed people that short changed the envelope, something i have never, ever done in my life.

there was one time when i mistook a touring girl's hour and half rate as being the median market rate for same in my town (ie, 50 bucks below what she posted on her site).  having only seen her ter page i wasn't aware of the difference.  

as soon as i realized i didn't stuff the envelope enough, i emailed her, explained my mistake, and promised to give her the difference the next time she came to town. she emailed back in an apparent positive forgiving manner.

this is the only thing i can think of.  i would never, ever short a lady her due.

so i don't know what site this is, but it carried misinformation about me.  too bad i can't get creditscores.com to correct it.

nothrofboston 24 Reviews 249 reads
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11 / 40

the ladies like it. So a total stranger to me, but who was on TER, PMs me and suggests I mention his name to this high priced courtesan, who also approached me on the board and by PM.  
I hesitated name dropping on the 1st date as I wanted to establish my own rapport with her. Good thing, the first date was 4 hours of pure bliss. Second visit, as we sipped champagne, I felt comfortable enough to casually drop his name since her and I hit it off so well. BAD IDEA

She wasn't pissed at me, but talk about a mood changer. Another glass of bubbly, some chocolates and then back to the business at hsnd.  She delivered the finest BBBJ ever, by miles. Pheeeew.  

After, I was told BC by simeone else, that he'd done a lot of traveling with. I'm guessing, if an escort and (one of) her BFF in the hobby have a lot of history with someone, she wants that kept private.  

Hey, what do I know? Just what I know

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Larissa_Sweets See my TER Reviews 290 reads
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Same here, pounded into my head early on in the game however, if the guy was abusive or disrespectful whether the provider told him or not, I tell her. If he's an absolute doll I also go out of my way to the provider that as well. Other than that it's he's good to book.

GaGambler 220 reads
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VOO-doo 290 reads
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Unless I know the girl personally...in which case, I'll give her a heads-up. "He needed a shower" is how I might put it.

Most of the time, I've never heard of the girl, and so I'll just say 'He's safe.' She can always hose him down when he arrives. Just like I did. Any ho worthy of the name can deal with a little funky-butt...

I rarely ever get negative references from other girls...when I do, they tend to be the high-drama sort. I think the last one actually forwarded me some of his correspondence, then emailed the guy herself to start bickering with him anew!!

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BigPeterJohnson 38 Reviews 183 reads
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VOO-doo 218 reads
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I thought I heard Buddy Bolden say,
Funky butt funky butt, take it away,
Stinky butt funky butt, take it away,
I thought I heard him say.

1b. I thought I heard Buddy Bolden shout,
Open up the window an’ let the bad air out,
Open up the window an’ let the bad air out,
I thought I heard him shout.
 
2a. I thought I heard Judge Fogarty say,
Give him thirty days in the market, take him away,
Give him a good broom and take the prisoner away,
I thought I heard him say.

2b. I thought I heard Frankie Dusen shout,
Give me our money or I’ll beat it out,
Give me our money or I’ll beat it out,
I thought I heard him shout.
 
3a. I thought I heard Buddy Bolden say,
Monkey butt, funky butt take it away,
Funky butt, stinky butt take it away,
I thought I heard him say.

3b. I thought I heard Buddy Bolden shout,
Open up the window an’ let this foul air out,
Open up the window an’ let the foul air out,
I thought I heard him shout.

-- Modified on 1/17/2016 7:47:02 PM

Freya Fantasia See my TER Reviews 330 reads
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17 / 40

If you have references, the lady's will probably NOT be checking a blacklist.  

I think blacklists might be for ladies who don't require references so they look for something bad, but if you have a bunch of positive recommendations, I don't think most ladies will bother looking on a blacklist.  Am I wrong, ladies?

That's good for guys who don't deserve to be on it, but bad, too.  I've met with a couple of guys who have tons of reviews and WL who behaved very badly.

VOO-doo 285 reads
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After all, some of the most notorious bastards on this site have as many whitelist referrals as BL listings.  

Also, some girls will give a reference to, like, anybody. Or, will see anybody.

Besides, he might be nice to two girls, and stiff a third...

It never hurts to check the blacklist. If nothing is there, it just serves as extra reassurance.

Sometimes I see a blacklisting that seems a bit off to me (for instance, a NCNS entry for a guy who seems very earnest and serious). I won't DNS him without taking all factors into account. I know that some women like to blacklist, as BPJ said, for something very minor and/or inadvertent...

BigPeterJohnson 38 Reviews 266 reads
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Posted By: Freya Fantasia
I've met with a couple of guys who have tons of reviews and WL who behaved very badly.  
that's why ladies need to back channel as well.  i know of a hobbyist who has some white lists but has very bad reputation via back channel with more than one provider.

GGxo See my TER Reviews 231 reads
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Now, whether it's true or not is what ultimately makes it the beast.  

My suggestion: Choose to listen and decipher wisely before making any conclusions with any (bc) beastly chatter.

TwoMints 234 reads
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21 / 40

I do on occasion get asked or asked about a particular provider. People's opinions or recollections do change over time so most of the info isn't anything not found in the reviews. I would only ask someone with a lot of reviews as I feel they have the experience to understand what happened.  

I hesitate to see ladies with mixed reviews. If I see a bunch of 9's and 10's but a few 7/7's mixed in I usually just pass unless the provider has a super long track record or if the reviews just read as sour grapes.  

Recently was interacting with someone else where about a provider that was that case exactly. He had a bad experience and she had a few really sub-par reviews along with a lot of great ones. I had excluded her on P411 for those bad reviews in conjunction with her price point. (she was at my cap, and at that rate, there are tons of providers that don't have those kind of reviews)

 
Posted By: Zak0326
When getting information back Channel is it ever bad Intel? I talk to one person I trust but when it's someone you don't really know does bad ever been given out.  
   
 Discuss.  
   
 

zerofcksgiven 267 reads
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just because you get a good reference that is not the end all to be all.
some guys have good references and they are not good guys to see.
I ask for references however I will still do my screening regardless of a reference or not.
You mention meeting guys with tons of reviews and WL who behaved badly most of the time if you had checked the blacklist those guys were probably on it.This is the reason you still need to check.

Crazy Diamond 12 Reviews 228 reads
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23 / 40

This is increasingly so when info comes from trusted sources.

Fancy8888 See my TER Reviews 236 reads
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Check all lists when screening.References part of screening process.

Posted By: Zak0326
When getting information back Channel is it ever bad Intel? I talk to one person I trust but when it's someone you don't really know does bad ever been given out.  
   
 Discuss.  
   
 

Fancy8888 See my TER Reviews 269 reads
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.Haters lie on legit people on blacklists.All boards and lists is controlled by people's opinions.Hookers like to cock block others hookers.Competitions wicked

Posted By: Freya Fantasia
If you have references, the lady's will probably NOT be checking a blacklist.    
   
 I think blacklists might be for ladies who don't require references so they look for something bad, but if you have a bunch of positive recommendations, I don't think most ladies will bother looking on a blacklist.  Am I wrong, ladies?  
   
 That's good for guys who don't deserve to be on it, but bad, too.  I've met with a couple of guys who have tons of reviews and WL who behaved very badly.  

Afro-desiac 216 reads
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Have you even looked at the National Black List's page called "Browse the NB Registry"?  Check it out and you won't ever take it seriously again.

Fancy8888 See my TER Reviews 191 reads
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Amen specially an illegal business hookers and hobbyists at risks

Posted By: Shaft1

elainaamhurst See my TER Reviews 206 reads
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A guy is only ever going to give you references from ladies he's sure will vouch for him. There was one exception where a guy gave me two ladies, who had had never even seen. But for every decent experience he has had , he could have a dozen bad ones out there. For this reason I always check black list sites.  

Last week I had a guy give me three good references, and then I check the black list, he had negative 20 reports, everything from NCNS, to abusive. I'm going to trust the 20 bad reports in this case, and not take a chance.  

On the other had, if a guy has one bad report, but has otherwise impeccable references/history, I'm probably going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

hbyist+truth=;( 238 reads
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If the guy has bad hygiene or over stays or anything that prevents me from seeing him again, I will blatantly tell the reference because I don't give a rats ass what he thinks, I will not see him again.  

You are relying on other hookers to have your code...some do not and they might actually see the guy and get stuck with dirty dick.  

I do see that you being honest in details can and has come back to bite you. Makes me wonder where the the ho code went wrong.  

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 186 reads
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Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 218 reads
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You're dealing with people so always "Trust, but verify" in other words, if you can't find another hobbyist to confirm the info you might want to take it with a grain of salt. People BS, exaggerate, and flat out lie sometimes.  

Posted By: Zak0326
When getting information back Channel is it ever bad Intel? I talk to one person I trust but when it's someone you don't really know does bad ever been given out.  
   
 Discuss.  
   
 

GaGambler 203 reads
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Or at least that's what Octavia has said about him.  

Thanks for the Tee Up. lol

12pointbuck75 18 Reviews 228 reads
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Have seen bad information on reviews and know it because the provider told me what she did.   You put it on your review and will it get changed I don't know.  The checkers have a huge job in correcting things.  I ask provider's a question some times about linen and showers always taking one myself..    First hand information is best.    You see some reviews where the provider smells and you hope someone is not just trying to hurt them.     Rates can be confusing some times with the specials ,  multiple web sites with rates, and then the review posts a price.    The providers and agency's won't talk price for reasons known.    I feel like I'm taking a calculated guess some times.   I usually give the special difference or a nice tip to an agency girl.       I assumed the provider would let you know if they were shorted without being pissed off.     I hope providers would check with you before they black list you.  If a client stinks a provider should tell the guy and send him packing.     If he gives a bad review all she needs to do is tell her story on TER and everyone on here can figure it out by a little checking.     You need to see a trend to really tell if anything is the norm in a review.

hbyist+truth=;( 186 reads
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donbecker54 19 Reviews 192 reads
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I found out from one provider that another provider's reference was simply "he's safe".  I thought maybe that's as much detail as is usually given. If not, then I'm insulted.

russbbj 89 Reviews 195 reads
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I never considered the cock block angle. I went for years not being declined for a date, I've never shorted a lady, I check, check and double check my envelope. I've always had a great time with all ladies, and seemed the same. I'm always freshly showered, and take a shower at incalls right away to give the lady assurance of my freshness. So a few months ago, I had a lady decline a date with me, I thought hmm, ok no problems, more where she came from. Shortly there after had a lady accept and then at the 11th hour Aunt Flo arrived, ok that can happen, then shortly there after had a NCNS. I thought I had hit a bad/unlucky streak. Maybe I'm being bad talk back channeled.  

How can I find that out???? Any help would be much appreciated, you can back channel me to tell me, lol.

It's not that the well has run dry, I'm still getting dates, but it would be nice to find out if I'm being wrongly bad mouthed. I have no idea what I'll do with that info, but it would still be nice to know.

VOO-doo 205 reads
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*** "I found out from one provider that another provider's reference was simply "he's safe" " ***

This is exactly why I say 'he's safe' rather than something else that might come back to bite me. It's a neutral response that's truthful, but at the same time (to me) hints that there are things I wouldn't necessarily want to put in writing.

If a guy is really nice, I'll say something like, "I've known him for many years. He's a complete gentleman - polite, respectful, just overall an enjoyable person to be around. Hope you two have fun ;-)"  

I've gotten both types of responses from other providers. I've always interpreted "He's safe" as, "Well, he's fine. No MAJOR issues (emphasis on the MAJOR)"  

But, who can say for sure? All women are different. Maybe your referring provider is just lazy, and replies "He's safe" to, like, every single reference request

VOO-doo 190 reads
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bad hygiene is a very minor issue. I've dealt with it many times, and rarely, if ever, have had advance warning. It's part of the job...my opinion is, it's up to ME to decide how and if I can deal with it, and if I will see the guy again. It's not some other girl's responsibility to warn me.  

I've noticed that newer girls tend to use reference requests as platforms to vent. You can get some brutally honest feedback from them...unfortunately, I probably would NOT feel comfortable returning the favor, given their lack of discretion. The older/wiser ones just tend toward more noncommittal replies.

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