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ditto... mostly. -e-
giorgio2 2 Reviews 513 reads
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WickedBrut 27 Reviews 740 reads
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Put the girls in a cattle auction competition?

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mrfisher 115 Reviews 642 reads
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as I like to learn something about a gal before I see her by checking out her site, or having some back and forth with her like we do on these boards.

But then, sometimes it's any port in a storm.

I used to go to AMPs, and they are a bit like brothels, but without the cattle call (Which feature I find detestable, but that's another story.)  I've usually done pretty well at them, but fears about busts, etc. pretty much keep me away from them now-a-days.

I did indeed go to a brothel once on Vancouver Island, Canada, and had a wonderful time.  During the cattle call I selected the one gal who was the least glamorous of the 5 gals who lined up.  She was so happy to get picked that she fucked my brains out and then some.  It was one of the best experiences I ever had.

ShillBill 531 reads
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WickedBrut 27 Reviews 530 reads
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GaGambler 697 reads
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8 / 49

At least in Nevada they do. So for this reason I would say not just no, but HELL NO!!!

I have been in many brothels in many countries, including a couple in Nevada, but I would never consider patronizing a Nevada brothel ever again. It's not the "brothel ho" I am against.hell, I had a GF who worked at one, and who believe or not "liked the competition", but brothels themselves that I won't patronize.

GaGambler 635 reads
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9 / 49

Just saying that this is becoming all about YOU and what you offer, yep this has now turned into a full fledged threAD. congrats

russbbj 89 Reviews 756 reads
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11 / 49

I do not wish to visit a brothel for the very reason you described, that the lady is going to try to negotiate for a higher rate. I don't care too much what a provider's rate is (within reason of course) but I want to know upfront exactly what that rate is going to be, the very last thing I want to do when I'm about to get intimate with a lady is negotiate either way up or down. I never attempt to negotiate with a provider, she has posted what the rate is for her time and that is exactly what is in the envelope, and I know from reading her reviews what to expect as far as service. This is (in my mind) an excellent arrangement for both her and I, no guessing by either party. I don't see BP girls anymore because of upselling. If the lady posts 400 that's what she gets, if she thinks she should get 500 she should post that. It's really rather simple.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 498 reads
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89Springer 623 reads
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I went to a NV brothel two years ago. I won't do it again, and for a number of reasons. One is that they're not allowed to mention price, so I had absolutely no idea what it was going to cost until I was in the room with the two girls. When they told me the price, I was floored. It was $1000 an hour each, which was double what I was expecting. I know there's $1000 an hour freelance providers in NV, but these two weren't of that caliber. They were very sweet, and nice looking, but they weren't 8.5's or 9's and certainly didn't approach being 10's.  

Second is the use of condoms for everything. No BBBJ's. Two girls couldn't be on me at the same time. One at a time, switch condoms when the girls trade places. That was a drag.

The place I went to (one of the best in the state, supposedly), had a bar area where the guys would meet the ladies. It made for a very impersonal experience, and seemed tacky. I'd already corresponded with both ladies I was going to see, so I didn't do the "cattle call". I watched another guy have one, and it just seemed weird. I wouldn't want to pick a woman out of a lineup based on appearance only.

Another bad point for me was time. For my appointment, but maybe not others, the ladies were really watching the clock. One kept giving me warnings. "Five minutes left." She was a really nice, easy-going woman, so I don't think it was her. I think management was responsible for that.

There's a couple of positives. One, of course, is knowing that you're not going to get busted. Another is that there doesn't seem to be any limit to how much time the woman can spend talking to you in the bar before you go to the room and the clock starts. I spent well over an hour getting to know one woman I was with, and declined on a couple of women I just didn't click with.  

I knew nothing about any of the business when I went there. I didn't realize there were independents who could be found through places like TER, and many of them are much, much better looking than even the best the brothel had to offer, and rates are generally lower.  

I know nothing of your own business, Robbin, but I think it would be a step down for you. Just my $.02.

voyager-43 11 Reviews 584 reads
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14 / 49

I was not impressed with the Cathouse on HBO. The place looked awful and the whole experience they portrayed was some kind of assembly line sex with the girls trying to upsell at every opportunity.  
Personally, I would not want to be having sex and hear someone else banging the headboard 6 ft away.  
I would much prefer to rent a nice Vegas hotel room and call up a highly reviewed  Las Vegas lady with a set price. I can see her pictures beforehand, read her reviews and build anticipation for an experience, not just a quick bang in a dilapidated frat house just because it is legal

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 566 reads
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Posted By: mrfisher
as I like to learn something about a gal before I see her by checking out her site, or having some back and forth with her like we do on these boards.

But then, sometimes it's any port in a storm.

I used to go to AMPs, and they are a bit like brothels, but without the cattle call (Which feature I find detestable, but that's another story.)  I've usually done pretty well at them, but fears about busts, etc. pretty much keep me away from them now-a-days.

I did indeed go to a brothel once on Vancouver Island, Canada, and had a wonderful time.  During the cattle call I selected the one gal who was the least glamorous of the 5 gals who lined up.  She was so happy to get picked that she fucked my brains out and then some.  It was one of the best experiences I ever had.

Maybe they would've fucked your brains out, too?

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 576 reads
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16 / 49

The downside of legal is, as pointed out, regulations (condoms start to finish, etc.), and an inevitable crank-it-out attitude developing in the service attitude. Somehow, "a very efficient and acceptable fuck," doesn't excite me as much as... Anybody got some darts?

russbbj 89 Reviews 659 reads
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17 / 49

My only reason for not visiting a brothel is the probability of upselling.

AnotherDonJohn 617 reads
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18 / 49

And not clear what you're getting at since you seem to be fishing for all possible angles and argue most of the legit replies.  

Mainly, I question the intention. First, you have recently advertised for a SD in Nevada. Are you pursuing s brothel position instead like the PS you derided on another board (Chasey L). Second, there is your history of marketing. I have several opinions on the subject but I don't feel it's worth getting into.

doncord 42 Reviews 550 reads
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19 / 49

brothels in nevada do not do bbbj, so they are out of the question for me.

Dr Who revived 604 reads
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Please show "us" where these busts are.  Seems to me that it is a rare occasion when a TER type encounter is busted.  I can only recall ONE in the past four years that made any real news.  And in that case it was tied to other activities which LE wanted to use as an example.

Of the literally millions of annual hook-ups...a few (of the TER variety) may get busted.

So sure...stick to the brothel if that works for you.  Or ask some gals to teach you how to screen.  Being independent isn't for all gals...and from your history it's not for you.

But don't be stupid and believe that you are at any serious risk of being busted.  Unless of course you are sloppy and posting your pics (full face pics....like you do) all over the internet.  
Posted By: RobbinYoung
As most of you've noticed, I've been waffling from one type of a rendezvous service, to another.  The reason is, LE is becoming more active in busts of escorts and johns.  I've never been in trouble with LE and if I were, it would not only freak me out, but destroy my opportunities for mainstream work.    
   
 I love being a 'GFE-PSE' provider, so in order to do what I enjoy, legally...a brothel is my only choice.  The "brothel advantage for a client" would be to also enjoy a legal rendezvous.    
 

GaGambler 552 reads
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I have been to many countries where the hobby is legal, actually my last "legal" encounter with a prostitute was yesterday, and trust me there are many ways to have legal prostitution without all the regulations that you have in Nevada. In most countries health cards are required, a lady can take all the risks she cares to where it comes to BB services, but if she catches something she is out of work until she gets healthy. It's not foolproof, but I've been doing this for decades and have never caught an STD out of the thousands of women I have seen  over these many years.

Dr Who revived 603 reads
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Your assumption is quite wrong...I have commented to gals who asked my thoughts on posting a face pic exactly as I posted here...IT'S A REALLY FUCKING STUPID THING TO DO!!!!

If you want my thoughts on using social media...in this world it's just as FUCKING STUPID as posting face pics.

The successful gals in this biz are smart about how they run their advertising.  The ones who put not only themselves, but the johns at risk tend to be flippant about their advertising....and posting faces and linking social media is SO FUCKING STUPID.

So as I commented there are few busts (you can link TER pages if you are so inclined to...but I doubt you'll find many over the past 10 years that discuss a bust...aside from the BP hookers), and rarely from a TER type gal.

So if you interpret that you are being paranoid from my comments about discretion...they that is fine.  As I commented not all gals are interested in discretion and simply are sloppy and stupid in this game.  I avoid those gals, as do most of the johns here.  It's those that don't pay attention find themselves in precarious situations.

Do what you want...but don't fucking insult the intelligence of the collective on these boards.
Posted By: RobbinYoung
"Unless of course you are sloppy and posting your pics (full face pics....like you do) all over the internet."  
   
 Hi ChgoCPA, please try to be nice to me when replying...pretty please! ;)  Do you refer to ALL the providers who post their photos (including the ones you've reviewed) as "sloppy" for posting them on their sites and ads...and, their social networking sites?  I think not!  
   
 There are numerous "busts" that have occurred in 2013 & 2014, that IS a fact...but per TER rules, I'm unable to discuss the information.  I'm sure if you read every post on every board, you'll discover quite a few.    
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Please show "us" where these busts are.  Seems to me that it is a rare occasion when a TER type encounter is busted.  I can only recall ONE in the past four years that made any real news.  And in that case it was tied to other activities which LE wanted to use as an example.  
     
  Of the literally millions of annual hook-ups...a few (of the TER variety) may get busted.  
     
  So sure...stick to the brothel if that works for you.  Or ask some gals to teach you how to screen.  Being independent isn't for all gals...and from your history it's not for you.  
     
  But don't be stupid and believe that you are at any serious risk of being busted.  Unless of course you are sloppy and posting your pics (full face pics....like you do) all over the internet.    
     
Posted By: RobbinYoung
As most of you've noticed, I've been waffling from one type of a rendezvous service, to another.  The reason is, LE is becoming more active in busts of escorts and johns.  I've never been in trouble with LE and if I were, it would not only freak me out, but destroy my opportunities for mainstream work.      
       
   I love being a 'GFE-PSE' provider, so in order to do what I enjoy, legally...a brothel is my only choice.  The "brothel advantage for a client" would be to also enjoy a legal rendezvous.      
   

Chauncey Gardner 587 reads
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24 / 49

From what I've seen on that Bunny Ranch show (representative sample?) it's pretty much a drain your wallet experience.

scoed 8 Reviews 598 reads
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25 / 49

It is legal, but you have extra expenses.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 580 reads
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26 / 49

You say you corresponded with the gals in question prior to your visit.  How were you able to do so?  Did the brothel set it up on some website as Robin suggested above or did you know them already somehow?  

Also, since you did correspond with them, why didn't you think to ask them about what the fee would be?  After all, since it is legal, there's no reason not to raise the question.

Lastly, you state at one point that the bar experience was tacky, but then later you state that you spent an hour chatting there and enjoyed it.  So I'm confused as to how you view that part of the experience

liqq63 19 Reviews 620 reads
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...are the way to go IMO if you're the hobbyist wanting the brothel experience, and I'd encourage more LPIN to work from those establishments.  Over the past decade I've visited more than a hand full of Nevada brothels.  I started with the famous Pahrump brothels and as has been noted by others in this thread, the negotiation process/cost can be daunting.  Live and learn I always say, so I started visiting the "smaller" NV brothels and what a difference.  Difference in atmosphere, difference in attitude (mgmt. and employees).  Some of these smaller brothels have the no negotiate policy with set rates, so that takes care of the most unpleasant aspect of a brothel visit.  I have yet to leave a smaller NV brothel without a smile on my face, pleased with the experience, and my wallet no worse for wear than most sessions I've had with escorts.   I have no interest in going back to the larger NV brothels (HBO's Cathouse series is a pretty accurate depiction of the experience you'll have) but will continue to visit the smaller NV brothels.

Robbin, it would be my pleasure to schedule.  Let me know at which establishment you'll be performing.

To respond to the "cattle call" comments from others in this thread:  Experiencing a line-up always makes me feel like a kid in a candy store who can't make up his mind with all those tasty treats within reach.  My suggestion is to pick one and head for the bar to chat her up before taking the "tour".  
 

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GaGambler 544 reads
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are going to convince her that she'll almost be fucking for free by doing so.

Besides the house split, keep in mind that there are "other expenses" that might make her reconsider her choice to work in one of these places, or at least make her reconsider her rate.

As I said, I had an ex GF who did quite well at one of these places, but she had no qualms about asking for money, one of the reasons she is an "EX" GF. lol I've had "real love" when dating hookers, but trust me, although we remained pretty good friends, it wasn't long before I realized that this was not "true love" lol

RRO2610 51 Reviews 504 reads
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For it to be "blue-collar affordable" The brothels commonly double the rate the LPIN asks. You earn $400 with a client and he pays $800 at the cashier's desk.

  Only the uninformed or a hobbyist that just wants to 'try it' goes too a Nevada brothel.  
 
Posted By: RobbinYoung
It's great to hear from you, and thank you for your reply.  
   
 While I understand your concern regarding a LPIN having to give a cut to the brothel...it's not your problem to worry about. ;)  In the past, I was with an agency (and they usually take 40%) and there was always the risk of being busted looming in my mind.  If I'm entertaining at a brothel, they too will take a percentage of my earnings, but I'll be able to relax and fuck like a rabbit...without the fear of arrest or being attacked by a hobbyist (physical attacks are rare, but they do happen).  Also, my clientele will be safe and can relax, as well.  
   
 Brothel LPIN are independent contractors and usually negotiate their rates...which I hate, because it takes away from the fun of the rendezvous for me.  So I will have a set rate, which will be VERY affordable not just for the wealthy, but to 'blue collar workers' like myself.  
   
Posted By: GaGambler
At least in Nevada they do. So for this reason I would say not just no, but HELL NO!!!  
     
  I have been in many brothels in many countries, including a couple in Nevada, but I would never consider patronizing a Nevada brothel ever again. It's not the "brothel ho" I am against.hell, I had a GF who worked at one, and who believe or not "liked the competition", but brothels themselves that I won't patronize.

89Springer 495 reads
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Posted By: mrfisher
You say you corresponded with the gals in question prior to your visit.  How were you able to do so?  Did the brothel set it up on some website as Robin suggested above or did you know them already somehow?    
   
 Also, since you did correspond with them, why didn't you think to ask them about what the fee would be?  After all, since it is legal, there's no reason not to raise the question.  
   
 Lastly, you state at one point that the bar experience was tacky, but then later you state that you spent an hour chatting there and enjoyed it.  So I'm confused as to how you view that part of the experience.  
   
 
Robbin, the place was Sheri's. It's not a dive by any means. I've looked at some of the more "intimate" ones as well.  

I was able to email the provider through Sheri's website, and she then replied back. There's no individual emails for the providers, at least at Sheri's.

What I was told by the providers as well as the manager/hostess was that it is illegal to discuss rates outside of the provider's room. Can't discuss rates by email, can't discuss in the bar, hallway, parking lot, or over the phone. Only in the room. I'd been led to believe by some guys on another forum that $500 an hour was to be expected, so the $1000 caught me off guard.  

As for the bar being tacky, it was, IMO. I enjoyed talking to the provider, though. It's something that I wish were possible outside the legal environment in NV.  Of course, if all providers charged $1000 an hour, they could afford to chat a bit with potential clients before agreeing to meet with them.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 521 reads
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Regulation will be a condition for any action gaining legal status.

Even in countries where it isn't "legal" there are various concepts of tolerance. When I lived in Paris, technically prodtitution was not legal. It was tolerated as long as it didn't become or create a public nuisance. So street workers limited their corners, stayed clear of the lycées and out of the nicer restaurants. I was not a hobbyist then, so no personal experience, but spent time in establishments that were in the areas where the jeune filles were very active. Tolerance is really a de facto regulation without any complications. Stateside, complications are a given.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 511 reads
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I can easily believe you have a good attitude about it. Will it be difficult to maintain that in a brothel setting?

mrfisher 115 Reviews 499 reads
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That line about it being "illegal" to discuss rates outside the room sounds like a load of self-serving BS.  Since when can't a rate for a legal transaction be discussed

2labman 26 Reviews 495 reads
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2labman 26 Reviews 551 reads
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And would love it if anyone could PM me details...

2labman 26 Reviews 516 reads
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giorgio2 2 Reviews 514 reads
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Robbin

Would never work for me.  

Giorgio

89Springer 507 reads
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I just skimmed through Nevada's prostitution laws, and can't find anything pertaining to discussion of price. I did see a mention on Wikipedia (if it can be believed) that some brothels only allow price discussions in the provider's room, which is bugged by management so they don't get ripped off.

GaGambler 504 reads
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there are many countries with similar laws all within a four or five hour plane ride from the US. The DR, Panama, Nicaragua, virtually every country in either South America, Central America or the Caribbean would fall into this category. Costa Rica is just convenient and has great weather to go along with it's beautiful women, and tolerant attitude.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 505 reads
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CBJ's or driving out to the middle of no where to see a provider, even though legal.

GaGambler 572 reads
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42 / 49

is at least as much of a deterrent as any other reason mentioned here. Good point.

russbbj 89 Reviews 614 reads
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I have a mental block with condoms, it doesn't matter how hot the woman if you put a condom on me, I'll be losing my erection in a short time. I hate it, would love to remedy it, but it is what it is. Nevada brothel would be a waste of my money

aragorn69 53 Reviews 508 reads
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I hit the Chicken Ranch about 4 times and the Bunny Ranch once about 8-10 years ago. They were both nice and the ladies were top quality. The price was a little high, but it was fun and a great experience. If I was back in NV I might go to one again, although I'm much better an finding ladies these days.  

Posted By: RobbinYoung
Yes or No...if in the USA?

scoed 8 Reviews 491 reads
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The lady has extra expenses. But expenses are always passed down. Legal brothels are not cheaper by any measure for the guy. The big upside for both is the legality of it. There are tons of down sides too.

GaGambler 578 reads
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There is also the beautiful weather, great beaches, and many other reasons to go to CR besides the pussy. Have you ever been to Ely, Elko, or Pahrump? Can you imagine spending a week in one of these fine cities? Oh wait, since you are planning on working in one of them, I guess you can, but you'll only see the inside of a brothel and not the shit hole town in which it's located.

FWIW I agree with CPA about the legality of whore mongering in the US, I've been doing it since a full bush was the norm, not the exception without any incident serious enough to make me take pause. Getting screened, setting an appointment, etc is a breeze through P411 and I can decide I want to get laid with a local lady and do so in just as little time as it takes to drive from Vegas roundtrip to any of the legal brothels, much less having to fly to Vegas  to start the process.

Sorry RY, but the Nevada brothels are a thing of the distant past for me, and even reasonable prices (with someone in my preferred age range) isn't going to change that for me, but it might for some others. Mainly those guys terrified that their wife might find out and who are scared of the horror stories that come out of Vegas regarding rip off agencies and casino girls trick rolling. All those types of things don't really factor in for a TER member, but for the average Joe,excuse me, average "John", who is only going to do this once or twice in his life, and is scared to death he is going to get caught, they might find some benefit in this.

GaGambler 605 reads
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The reason that the ladies charge so much in the brothels isn't that they are simply "greedy whores" although it's possible to do well there financially, my ex GF did quite well at one, well enough to bankroll herself in her own AMP and quit "fucking for bucks" before she turned forty, but I guarantee you, she wasn't charging $400 hr either, and she actually liked the competition that she encountered there which included the "cattle call" It didn't bother her a bit, nor has it ever bothered me when I've experienced it in many Latin America countries. One of the best I can think of is in Panama City where they parade about thirty, mainly Colombianna hotties, past you for you to choose from, but before you get any ideas, the girls only net about $35 US a session out of the hundred bucks or so that the guys pay, so don't pack your bags just yet

GaGambler 611 reads
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It took all day, but your threAD paid off, congratulations Robin.

russbbj 89 Reviews 549 reads
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And I guess I didn't consider that it would be when I wrote it. I do have a mental block to condoms, I can't maintain an erection long with one on, but I want to clearly state, I DO NOT do bbfs, nor would I consider it. To be clear, the reason I said a brothel wouldn't work for me is because I need to see providers that do bbbj so that I can finish. I'd much rather not have a shyness to condoms, it's been nearly 4 years since I've O'd vaginally and I do miss it. A provider that I've seen has told me that some of her other clients have the same condom shyness. I hadn't used a condom since I was in high school prior to starting the hobby, was only having sex in long term relationships so no condom used. I just really want to be sure anyone reading this understands I don't do or condone bbfs. You may call me anything you wish, just wanted that to be clear.

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