According to court records posted on the website, she’s a SNITCH! In e-mails to an investigator, she VOLUNTEERED information about people, including some ladies.

She posts as Desi on TBD, but is also known as Veronica Franco and Talisa (real name DeAnne Holliday). If you’ve had any dealings with this woman, you should read this document: http://www.operationfleacollar.info/preview/EM10.pdf

http://www.operationfleacollar.info/Email%20Preview.htm

First off, "blue dog" is not me. I point this out because of my posts regarding Amy Taylor a couple of weeks ago here, it has come to my attention that I may have been put on a blacklist or bad client list. I will return to that matter below. I was pretty much done with the matter until this post came up, and I need to put out any fires before they start, so here goes.

A number of us in Los Angeles have been aware of Ms. Franco's (and let's not forget her original Net handle, Chelsea Madrid) relationship with LE from the beginning of these boards, one story goes back to the late 1980s, but because of the nature of the business we discuss, and the current governmental attitude towards AE-related businesses in general, it simply didn't profit to out her. Moreover, it's simply not my style, and unless the person's behaviour is truly antithetical to the interests of the community, there's no need to bring up the topic. If we started doing that, then we would soon likely have no need for handles.

A curious thing happened after my post here about Ms. Taylor. All of a sudden, I had problems getting dates. These dates occurred in two midwestern cities, and I do not quite understand why these ladies would not be interested in hearing my side of the matter, nor why they would get involved in what is basically a LA matter, but they were the only real losers here*, and frankly, I'm pretty much done with any provider who has a presence on that site, unless I'm backchannelled in, and that it is a problem unto itself. While many providers are friends and allies in many ways, it still isn't their business who I'm seeing or wish to see. Way I see it, there's always Canada, Spain, Germany, Thailand, etc**. I mean, you have those options, who in their right mind would want to pay 2-3x market, and perhaps be reviewed on the ladies' boards and/or cyberstalked?

You want to know why I am militant about not being screened? Now you know. You think I was shooting my mouth off when I wrote "for every problem client there is a problem provider?" Veronica isn't the only one, just the most prominent one because she's been in the Life longer than the rest. You think I was shooting my mouth off about TBD and the ladies who post there? Read the posts by some of the ladies on National there, some of whom have banner ads, and you tell me if you want to peruse their services as they "keep it real" by telling the world what they really think of their clientele.

I have had my differences with Staff in the past, but being somewhat on the inside, he clearly made the right call on Amy, the right call on Angel, the right call on Nikki Chao. Other ladies I'm not prepared to discuss at this point. Only Staff and Ms. Taylor know for sure, but the evidence in my opinion tends to refute the accusation made. I don't always agree with all the decisions, but it's his house and he can be as clean or as messy a housekeeper as he chooses to be. Whwther you want to play in it is up to you.



*to the four ladies in question: one or more of you may, unwittingly or intentionally, have caused me a security risk if my name appeared on a blacklist. Please contact me if you wish to discuss. At the very least, apologies will be cheerfully accepted.

** to the LA and LV-based ladies who wrote or called to offer support, let me offer my heartfelt thanks here. It is probably better not to identify you, but I admire your commitment to integrity, and wish more people in the community were like you.

I'm speaking for myself just to share my thoughts and this is not meant to be harmful in any way. I have yet to read one of your post where their wasn't an offensive statement of some kind or something negative mentioned in relation to a Provider's Ad. I was offended by you on the LA board when I posted back in April under Tihitian Beauty. This is suppose to be a community where everyone should be able to contribute without having fears that something negative will be stated everytime we decide to post an Ad.

The provider's database exist for our safety and it isn't a blacklist as you stated. It's a place where we seek information to protect ourselves.  It's also a place where Providers can tell their side of what they felt was a potentially harmful date.  There isn't ANY personal information listed as you stated and searches are done in the same general manner as in other review databases.  If someone feels they're listed, perhaps it's for good reason.

-- Modified on 8/12/2003 11:12:14 PM

existence of ladies' board is to settle scores, it is really too bad.

Then again, human nature being what they are, there are inevitably some sort of rumor or score settlings going on in each message boards.

1) Who are you, or any of you on TBD, to decide for the provider community who I can and cannot see, considering there is no evidence whatsoever I have EVER been abusive to a provider, or jeopardized her safety? Frankly, such suggestion, without any evidence offered to support it is outrageous and irresponsible, not to mention slanderous, and if my name appeared on TBD, and the post gets back to me, you can bet I'll be suing their fat canine asses. In California. It's high time someone held TBD accountable for the shit they allow to be slung on their boards.

You confuse the issue of me actually jeopardizing the safety of a provider as opposed to not liking something I wrote. By misrepresenting the facts you may settle a score, but the real losers are the ladies who are too afraid to deal with wannabe Really Big Name Providers such as yourself and others who missed out on an opportunity to meet someone who is not LE or a threat to their safety, as you imply. They may be afraid of your ilk but i'm not. You owe me no apologies as you are entitled to your opinion, but the action took money out of their pocket, and will do so permanently because I have no confidence in being personally secure seeing any lady who has a presence on TBD.

2) The only thing I've ever said about you is that you have a crappy attitude about the gig, and it shows on your website and in your posts. Staff has actually noted this publicly as well, and for him to upbraid a provider publicly is telling, why not take him on instead? Let me remind you and the provider community one last time: in anywhere except the USA and maybe UK, this is a $40-$50K/yr job, tops for 99.5% of the ladies who do sex work. You insist on frowning when you should be grateful for the opportunity. If this country were not so fucked up, using sexual repression as a means for keeping organized society under control, you'd be working for a lot less than what you make now, or you'd be working 9-5 someplace. My suggestion is that you change careers and become a domme, since you seem to have the right mindset for the job.

Some of the higher priced ladies out there are actually friends. I've even seen a couple professionally. Why don't you ask them, instead of speculating, whether or not I'm a good client?


3) Before I leave, consider this. How could anyone in their right mind let you screen them after reading your post? You have just acknowledged that the Ladies' board is not intellectually honest in its pursuit of provider security. As the information included is corrupted by provider temper tantrums (I recommend the PMS defense, because it's only in the US where it doesn't get laughed out of court), how can it seriously be trusted, or for that matter any client entrust you to make a responsible decision regarding seeing him?