I am posting under an alias for my reasons, but have been a TER member since 2005 with many reviews.  

As we know TER has new ownership and upon contacting them I think they are interested in listening on how to improve the site. Below is a portion of my email to TER.

This site was originally established for men hobbyists/reviewers to help find quality ladies. Ladies complained about bad reviews and TER (previous owners) got concerned from the liability side with the ladies livelihood being at stake, then TER backed off and started supporting the ladies. Fake and highly-over-rated reviews are a HUGE problem...and had  already created a LARGE DEVALUING of the site even before the break in the U.S. Quality over quantity is the best business model in the long run for any business.  

This site has what no other site has with the design of reviews with details in the various database fields, along with the large database. Maintaining, controlling, and improving the original business model that established the site is the way to go, and this is the source for your revenue.

Again, the only thing that ever made this site work...and has value that men are willing to PAY for...are honest, good, reviews...NOTHING ELSE...even if the ladies/agencies complain some.

Speak Up Now!

The content of reviews has been discussed here ad infinitum.  Not sure if your remark about "honest, good, reviews" was rhetorical but you almost imply TER Admin should focus on "improving" reviews.  Maybe I read your post wrong.

 
BUT.......if you are hinting TER Admin can improve the accuracy of reviews, then I must remind you;  this is an age old problem.  Creating an objective system to evaluate subjective behavior is near impossible, again for reasons stated here many times over.  If you ever worked for the government or a large organization, just consider their performance appraisal systems and how over or under inflated they are based on the human factor and the difficult of documenting human perception/opinion tainted by varying degrees of favoritism.

 
If we use our own internal margin of error, as we determine how best TER reviews satisfy our needs, or even the "gymnastics" model by throwing out the high and low, IMHO TER reviews satisfy their purpose.  There will NEVER be a perfect system, no matter how hard we try.

I have to pay for this site just like you do.  
Just because you see a gal and it is not all fireworks that does not mean someone else could not see her and it was amazing for him. Not sure why you think if a review is completely different then you experience that the review must be "fake".

....is I look for:

1.  P411
2.  Personal Website

***If they don’t have both of these I go no further.  It is my opinion that providers who do not have P411 and their own personal website haven’t really taken their business too seriously and don’t have that professional appeal that I’m looking for so I simply avoid them.  They need to invest a little in themselves before I will.  

3.  If they have Twitter I’ll give it a cursory look to get a general feel about her personality.  (Many providers that I might have otherwise seen made my DNS list really fast because of  their Twitter behavior.  On the other hand, there have been some providers that I was on the fence about but the way they comport themselves on Twitter was a plus and I ended up seeing them).   I also like Twitter because it more often than not shows somewhat recent pics.  

4.  I look at the TER profile.  If the services aren’t what I’m used to I move on.

I look at scores but don’t get bogged down on them.  If there are a lot of 7s I move on.  Consistent 8-10s are what I look for and I might read the most recent two or three reviews.  I usually won’t see a provider unless she has at least a full page of reviews with most of them written by clients having a history of providing multiple fair and honest reviews here on TER.  I judge fair and honest by a range of scores on their reviews.  

I don’t get bogged down in the verbiage of the reviews.  All I look for is that the activities that took place in the reviews match up with what’s listed on their profile.  For example, if their profile states BBBJ/CIM but all of their reviews mention CBJ I’ll move on.

I totally understand why there might be a bad review here and there.; and I can overlook them if they are infrequent.   This has been discussed here on TER ad nauseam.  I also tend to overlook all the 10-10s, especially if they were written by someone with a history of writing nothing but 10-10s or those who write two reviews back to back to get free time here on TER.  Of course some 10-10s are legit, but not multiple pages full of them.   IMHO, there is nothing wrong with 8-9s.  

Bottom line for me, TER is a big positive for the honest and professional providers.   Also, I don’t believe that these providers have anything to fear about TER, at least not from the type of clientele that they would value. If a provider falls in this camp, and there are many here that do, than I am way more than willing to see them. On the other hand, TER tends to expose those providers, in a variety of ways, who are not truthful or professional.  It’s my strong opinion that TER is a boon for both providers and clients.  I do the vast, vast amount of my hobbying in Las Vegas and there are so many very reputable providers in LV that I have met only because I have learned more about them on TER.  There are plenty left to see so I’m really happy that TER is back, hopefully for the long haul...

That's it in a nutshell, full stop. In order to fulfill that purpose they've (the original owners) created a service that appeals to two constituencies with often competing agendas. Providers naturally want to maximize revenue while clients want to maximize their experiences at what they perceive to be a good exchange of service for money. TER has a balancing act because they need to keep the pendulum, which tends to always be in motion, from swinging too far in either direction. How well the current owners manage these demands remains to be seen. One thing is certain, however, neither group will ever be entirely happy with the kinds of compromises that are an inevitable feature of such a situation.

The whole purpose of this site is intel, or put plainly, data. It's the largest global database of who provides what kind of sex work where. Anyone who's seen more than a couple providers knows that reviews are subjective measures, and after a dozen or so, you get a feel for how to find what you're looking for on here.

 
That sounds like a so-so service, but the alternative is playing roulette, hopefully finding someone who you like, and seeing them until they retire. That sounds dandy, but, going in blind means you're opening yourself up to risk, and, if any of us wanted to just bang one chick, it's far simpler to just date normally if the alternative is so poor. With TER, the alternative is far simpler than that.

Last time I tried, P411 was not accepting any new hobbyist/clients. Hopefully this has changed. Anybody got news? Any pointers on getting “enrolled” as a client on P411? Thanks!

Being a foreigner who had issues getting appointments with providers from time to time during the recent dark era, I made it a point to get tight with a few ladies so I wouldn’t have to deal with vetting providers and all that mess when I didn’t have or know of good resources. I’ve come to know four types of reactions to the return of TER so far.

 
1) Confident indifference - Two providers I’m a regular with maintained a solid business without TER by establishing themselves well enough and through their own types of online presence. Their business has remained the same, and are seemingly indifferent with TER’s return. One of them has always been with an agency, and the other always independent and barely ever advertises. The agency girl is incall only, and the independent does incall and outcall.

2) Thankful glee - One provider I’m a regular with was ecstatic that TER was back because her business suffered a great deal. She had to take extra risks, met some unsavory types along the way, and felt unsafe more often than she liked. Her business has picked back up since TER’s return, and she’s much happier. She’s an independent who does incall only.  

3) Concerned yet optimistic - Two providers I was a semi-regular with both did fairly well while TER was down. Due to the lack of details and reviews on them, they both got new business more often and pulled in a few regulars from those. Since TER’s return, however, their new business has declined. Coincidentally, due to both of them formerly having a TER presence, it might help them separate themselves and rise to the top on their websites of choice. One of them voiced her hope of this being the case. The other is worried that she puts herself at risk by getting back on TER. Both are independent and do incalls and outcalls.

4) Better off without TER - One provider who I no longer see was much better off without TER. Her reviews and comments were much more positive elsewhere, and she benefited a great deal from her TER reviews being unavailable to most people. She also had more control over what was allowed to stay posted about her. She has seen her business and number of new reviews decline gradually over the last three months. Although she did not come out and say it, I had to assume it was because the combination of her ad, pictures, and inflated reviews were a real boon to her business while the TER reviews were more accurate and revealing. She only does incalls.

 
While this is only information based on what I was told by a small pool of six providers who all occupy different niches of the hobby, it does begin to reveal a little about why a provider would feel a certain type of way about TER’s return. There are countless other reactions, I’m sure, but I hope there are more positive than negative feelings.

From my standpoint as a hobbyist and longtime user of TER, I no longer have need of the other websites, can hobby with more confidence and less fuss, and I am certainly thankful for it.

I paid of a short time but couldn't afford it. Then I started posting and reading stupid comments and just funny crazy stuff.  
One time before TER when dark I was kicked out and banned from it. When it went dead I asked to be reinstated and I was. Now I'm more serious. But still I see stupid post and long fights and name callings. Yeah, that was always part of TER the fights and the "train wrecks" they used to call them. Also the drama between providers and there were a couple of clearly crazy providers. I was always on the side of the crazy ladies.  
Back in the day TER was mostly Los Angeles and it had a chat room. It was easier to get to know people in real life and at M&G's.  
Yes, TER was just a source of fun for me. To laugh at life and fake forbidding society. Posting links to YouTube mostly punk rock videos and pics of young looking 18 year old from the net. But making the others uncomfortable and question them.  
Just posting controversial or "trouble making" posts as some providers and gents that didn't like me would say.  
Oh yeah it was fun. But I've grown up a little.    

Let's have fun again.  
Fun is fun

To me TER was a way to narrow down MY preferences. DFK, BBBJ, B cups ect. That to me was worth every penny. But we all know the first reviewer sets the parameters of services provided. Possibly later a lady will offer more or to a certain client. That is why the details are important to me. For a while I got into the banter and made some friends. Actually met some fellow hobbyist. Loved going to meet and greets and seeing the ladies first hand before booking. I tried to stay away from the bickering and feuds. Listen I love this hobby and truly enjoy the time time I spend with the ladies. I really think for the most part TER does an outstanding job of providing information that helps me decide who I want to spend my hard earned cash on. I've yet to meet a provider that has had good to excellent reviews that I didn't enjoy my time with. Yes there have been times where we may not have hit it off as much as others but it wasn't because of misinformation. I do think some kind of check and balance from the provider is warranted and should be available but agree it is difficult to regulate.

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plus I suppose the normal vetting they did before.

P411 started accepting new clients and new providers again a while back.  Criteria is different -- need two invites from current members -- i.e. a candidate provider needs to have invitations from two clients.  A candidate client needs two invitations from current providers.

Well, lt seems like some of the "old guard" think that profiles are all that's needed. Some of them do not even monger mostly in the USA. Others are just morons.

I guess those who hated me and my posts are going to get their wish. I am ready to leave here for good. I'm sick of the bullshit.  

Thankfully I have enough fuck you money to set up a couple of mistresses. I will do what I have to do to get things done my way. My way or the fucking highway.

I thought that after two years TER would pick up exactly where it left off.  It looks like TER will join all the other useless boards out there.

In my particular area I'm able to find enough information to steer me toward women who provide good value and, more importantly, away from women who don't. That's useful enough for me, although I'm sure others have different circumstances. The forums and boards may be occasionally informative or amusing but, if they were gone tomorrow, it wouldn't change the usefulness of the site (for me). Good luck with the mistress plan although, as with everything in life, there are pros and cons. One thing that comes to mind is that it still involves a long-term relationship which is usually more complicated to unwind than a one-off visit to a provider. And, since people and circumstances change over time, such relationships tend to have a  limited shelf life so there's a recurring need for reinvestment of time and effort when one ends and another begins. More power to you if you can make it work.

and while it's true that I have traveled and mongered in literally dozens of different countries I bet you there aren't more than a couple of TER members that have EVER seen as many providers right here in the US as I have.  

 
I too could get a mistress, or ten, If I wanted to, but being single, what would be the point? Here is the biggest difference between OTM and myself. I actually LIKE the women I fuck. I don't look at them simply as a cum receptacle like he does. I am hardly a White Knight, so he can't play that card with me, but while he not so secretly looks down on ALL hookers, I don't look up at them as "goddesses" nor do I look down on them as simply "whores" I look at them simply as people, some good, others not so good.  

 
BTW if TER were to disappear tomorrow, it would hardly impact my sex life in the slightest. I have plenty of SB's to see, more than enough P 411 providers to last me years with barely a single repeat, not to mention a valid passport and the ability to hop on a plane whenever I want to go to someplace warm with enough pussy to fuck five different girls a day for the rest of my life. Quite frankly IMHO it's great to be me, and it probably sucks to be OTM. Too bad, so sad, for him that is. ROFL It really must suck hating the only women on the planet you will fuck you like he does.

LOL. Is that all you got?

but I decided to take it easy on you since I am in such a good mood this afternoon after getting laid. Getting laid tends to put me in a good mood. You should try it some day.

only fuck 5 women a day?  You must be impotent.  Ever thought about seeing a doctor?  They can do wonders for you!

wtf?  I have no desire to have sex 5 times in a day.  The last time that I did that the fifth time was painful and not pleasurable.  You are both a little nuts.  

NOT GaGa.  He makes sure to get the oil changed in his penal implant every 30 days and that strategy has served him well for 20 years now.

I MEANT to say  

 
"enough pussy to fuck five different girls a day for the rest of my life, "If I wanted to""

 
I forget to add those last three words to my sentence. Once upon a time, back when I was in my fifties, YES I thoroughly enjoyed fucking four or five different women a day for days on end, but those days are well in my rearview mirror, today at my "advanced age" I have no more desire to fuck five times a day than you do at this point in my life.

 
Yes, I suppose I am a little nuts, but my poor little nuts are no longer capable of recharging quite that often anymore. lol

you get the oil changed in your penal implant every 60 to 90 days, rather than every 30 days?

Better man than me. I fucked 3 girls in one day in my twenties,  and my dick was raw! Didnt help that the last one took 3 hours to get a nut.

I remember one very long day in Vegas several years back. I was having a horrible run of luck on the tables that day so every few hours I'd call another girl to come over to my room to "change my luck" to no avail of course. I remember the fifth girl that night asked me after about 45 minutes of sex how many other girls that day, when I answered "Four" other girls she almost immediately got out of bed and started getting dressed, mumbling something about not wanting to get pounded for hours by someone who was never going to cum. She was right of course, and I didn't put up a bit of a fuss and I think I was sound asleep by the time the door had closed behind her.  

 
I think I gambled about 10 hours that day and lost $30,000, I did five different one hour sessions at $500 a piece for a total of $2,500. At $500 hr to be the one doing the fucking as opposed to paying $3,000 hr to be the one getting the fucking I have to confess I wish I had simply fucked all day at $500, it would have been cheaper, not to mention a lot more fun. lol

I could barely do 3 in my twenties....so you getting 4 out and rolling on a 5th in your 50's is quite impressive. I was married for 21 years, so I got accustomed to two a month!

Yes, marriage will get you used to doing without sex. I am now 61, I lost my virginity at 14, saw my first hooker at age 15, and relatively speaking I had only one, rather short marriage,  so I have been sexually active for 47 years, and sexually active AND single for 42 of those years.

 

I have also been very lucky to have pretty much always had hookers around my entire life, I haven't had to suffer through too many "cold spells" that all of us go through with civvie chicks. Throughout most of my life there has always been "someone" around to fuck me whenever I have felt the urge. The internet just made it about as easy as ordering a pizza. lol