Hi, some providers use photo verification, that is you text a selfie to them...but what good does that due?? I am just thinking of the privacy issue, no one would want their photo out there...any opinions? thank you all..

From the provider side, I suppose if you end up murdering her it gives LE a VERY good place to start looking. It also ensures that the guy that shows up at her door is the guy she actually screened. It has happened that guys have let other guys use their P 411 account to book appointments, so the guy that shows up is not the guy she actually screened.

1) they want to weed out undesirable races.  

...that I'll jump through during her screening process, and there are some through which I will not jump.

One more aspect may be they don't really know who they screened is actually standing at the door.

First I don't (almost never) see pros who aren't on P411.  The one (or two?) who weren't on P411 were well known and had good reputations.  A few (one?) asked for photo ID.  Because of their long standing reputation in the biz, it didn't bother me to send the photo ID.  
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But I wouldn't send it to just anybody, especially someone off Backpage or whatever.  

In the words of one Gag...And I agree with you on on all counts...very good dumpy.
I have no problem sending a pic if it'll make her comfortable.
Of course I'm laughing with you, not at you....not me, No sir...lol

many Vegas hookers use photos.  If you go to her hotel incall, and you are not the same guy as in  the photo, they will not open the door.  If she is coming to your hotel room, and the guy who opens the door is not the guy in the photo she received, she will leave and not come into the room.

I have noticed how some super smart posters here, get SO dumb on the P&R. LOL

I feel your pain, bro.

Booked an appointment in Atlanta a few days ago.  This am she sends me a PM requesting information and a Photo ID.  I have 35 we Mets on A reputable verification service.  I told her that I spend $$$ a year so I should not have to do this..  she insisted so I politely cancelled.  Like others have stated, this is 1 hoop I will not jump through.

Who was the girl if you don’t mind me asking? I live in Atlanta and had the same thing happen awhile back. I felt the same way, and canceled the appointment.

I'm the same way.  As part of P411 I'm willing to show the portions of my license for matching, but not the whole thing.  ANYTHING more than that is an automatic no thanks.   I had a Brit in the UK demand that I make an international phone call to her phone for verification, 30 min before an appointment that was scheduled for over a week.  I emailed her that that was not happening, so she went radio silent.  It only ruined a once in a life time opportunity for me, no worries.  I had a Canadian in Toronto demand the same to set up an appointment . . . oh well.  But I've never had any in America make a similar demand . . . yet.  

...days ago, said you were go to go, then the day of the date asked for RW info and a photo I.D.????

Some of us already knew, but now it’s confirmed for the record.

Similar thing happened to me in Boston several years ago.  She, a well reviewed and popular touring Provider, and I had email and pleasant voice contact over several days prior to her visit to Boston. She checked me out on D-C where I was a platinum member. On the day of my appointment, I am nearby and (voice) call a little early to let her know I'm on schedule and can be there any time.  She starts asking for personal info and I remind her that she had OKed me several days before using D-C and TER. She insisted on personal info and we agreed not to meet.  
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Fortunately, I had a Plan B.

But I commend you on the back up piece of tail. You had that lined up before or just made a few last minute calls after you and the first gal agreed to call it off?

That's nuts!  I recently gave a friend an ok on pref 4 1 1. Shortly  thereafter, a gal contacted me on the site requesting more info.  Aside from my 2 day old ok ; this man has an additional 40+ ok's. What more could one need?  

Any of my 35 OK’s are happy to vouch for me.  10 of the 35 I have the Gold Star indicating we have had 5 encounters.  Privacy issues should work both ways!  I respect your right to privacy and you should respect mine.  Plus as others have chimed in, personal info can be compromised and shared making it easy for a stranger to out someone.

Gina provided a site where providers are able to advertise free of charge and find clients. Yet, providers still lie about her. Lol she never forced anybody to give okays to bad clients.

We don’t even know who runs p411, how could I possibly put my own safety in their hands. At least when Gina was the owner she had a presence and was tangible, but the new owners we know zero/zilch about.

I have booked probably about 300 dates through P 411, I usually try to keep 20-30 reasonably recent okays to make it easy for providers to check my references. Of the 300 or so dates I have booked, maybe three of those women asked me for additional information, and two of those were agencies who I didn't really mind jumping through the extra hoops because I knew it would only be a one time thing and I might end up seeing a dozen different girls because of it.

One of the main considerations why I have never used P411.  If the business is sold, as it has been, you don't know if the new owners will have the same level of integrity with all of your personal info that they also bought as the last owner had.  A transfer of a business like this opens up a whole new basket of risks when it changes hands.  The price of the business included all of the personal info on providers and hobbyists contained in the business records.  A less-than-honest nbew owner could be looking for new ways to turn that info into additional cash, in which case, some might be in for a bumpy ride.  It just reaffirms I'm glad I have always stayed on the sidelines when it comes to P411.  If a provider won't approve me with two recent indie refs, then Its a pass for me without any regrets.

No hard feelings...I passed....too many Beautiful ladies to pick who do not require extra work from my end.

Same here, I never liked even the idea of P411. I've always been able to book the provider of my choice without it.

I think Gina didn't keep client data (names, addresses, cc numbers) because having that data would just make her a more juicy target of LE.  It was in her benefit to throw that data away after making the decision to approve or not approve.
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That's my theory anyway.

Hypothetically let’s say I book a date via p411, Joe blow  has 20 ok’s so I book him.  

I gladly give my rw info to a provider, but I monitor their social media first to gauge whether they can be trusted with it. I’ve seen multiple providers doxx clients on twitter for canceling dates. I have seen even more blast out a client’s phone number and screen capping text message convos that canceled dates or for no call no showing. One thing I loved about Gina is that she would van providers from Preferred 411 who would be indiscrete with client/provider communications. She kept a lid on a lot of the bad behavior

You’re a smart guy 😎

This is nonsensical.  Hypothetically let's say I book a date via P411, Sexy Sally has given 20 ok's so I book her.  

While p411 “shreds” and deletes admirers initial verification information:  

I am not following.  Your response implies that a guy would eventually be able to find out a ladies information whereas a lady would be able to fined out a guys?  I could be wrong, but I don't believe that to be true.  For example, I know of 2 ladies that have multiple P411 profiles.  How would they be able to do that if they had to provide personal information?

Exactly.  I could understand if the the guy only had a few okays from sketchy ladies.  

Amateurish, but better than asking for a dick pick (assuming that a cop wouldn't do that) or when you arrive doing a LE check.

I agree.  P411 is awesome.  They do everything that they can to ensure a secure network.  I know plenty of guys and girls that were booted off for various reasons.  I even know a lady that was even booted off because enough guys complained that she didn't look like her pictures.  Ladies do lie about being forced to give a guy an okay.  Just like guys like about TER changing the scores and downgrading a review.  TER doesn't change the scores on reviews they just kick them back if the write up doesn't merit the score.  TER does not change scores.

If one must be discreet about their hobbying activities, never reveal personal/private information to anyone who has less to lose than you do.

from monger kindergarten.  

Look at the alternative, though.  If P411 kept all clients's info, fewer clients would feel comfortable joining p411 and therefore more clients would see providers without any p411 check at all.  

Your posts are still laced with adolescent innuendo.  Could I be expecting too much from you?  Nah!  Have no expectation your consistent pattern of childishness will ever end.  That pattern reflects who you are as a person, and even if you tried, how in the world would you ever be able to communicate as if you were something you are not; a normal, semi-adult, remotely logical individual?

Perhaps it varies by State but my understanding is that LE is allowed to actually complete the act as part of their legal duties. If so all this about LE checks is pure BS/urban myth/fake news/seriously outdated (take you pick).

and a complete waste of time for all parties concerned.

I do not feel comfortable providing a photo or real world information. I’ve had at least one provider insist on real world info and become a bit testy when I refused to divulge it.  She relented sometime later but by then I was not available.