Use cash.
I contacted an agency that told me new clients are required to make a deposit via Cash App or Zelle. I haven’t used either, but I assume the transaction can be traced back to me. Perhaps this is common, but I don’t feel comfortable with it. Thoughts and advice?
I've used both - Zelle can be tied by the recipient directly to the real-work bank account. If you use your personal checking account, for instance, your name will be there on the transfer message. There may be a way to avoid that by using business accounts, but I haven't tried that. CashApp acts as a cut-out between the bank information and the recipient (i.e., you will both see each other's selected aliases only). So CashApp is more secure from your perspective - but the transaction would likely not survive a warrant if LEO gets involved. I've successfully made deposits with CashApp - with providers I'm seeing for the first time, and for long-time "friends" I have used Zelle, but very selectively.
...what does it matter that they'd have your name? If they're going to fuck you later, they've already got what they need.
http://www.zellepay.com/faq/ive-heard-theres-change-zeller-app-what-happening
I’ve heard there’s a change to the Zelle® app. What is happening?
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"More than 2,200 banks and credit unions across the U.S. now offer Zelle® through their mobile app or online banking site. As a result of this growth, in October of 2024, we announced that we are removing the ability for users to send or receive money using the Zelle® app starting April 1, 2025.
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"If you use the standalone Zelle® app, you should have received messaging about this change through various emails and in-app notifications. To continue using Zelle®, all standalone app users must enroll through one of the more than 2,200 banks and credit unions that offer Zelle® through their mobile app. ..."
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Just another consideration to consider.
I've used both - Zelle can be tied by the recipient directly to the real-work bank account. If you use your personal checking account, for instance, your name will be there on the transfer message. There may be a way to avoid that by using business accounts, but I haven't tried that. CashApp acts as a cut-out between the bank information and the recipient (i.e., you will both see each other's selected aliases only). So CashApp is more secure from your perspective - but the transaction would likely not survive a warrant if LEO gets involved. I've successfully made deposits with CashApp - with providers I'm seeing for the first time, and for long-time "friends" I have used Zelle, but very selectively.
Numerous articles and instances of hobbyists getting into trouble when not using a cash transaction. Ig exposure not a concern (where you could loose your job or get divorced) then go for it.
in 2001 that you hadn't used email yet.. Maybe a little behind rest of the world.. LOL
Most people, these days, don't write each other checks. They pay thru Zelle, Venmo, or Cash App.
Yes, the info can be tracked back to you.. Think Matt Gaetz and Joel Greenburg. If you wanted anonymity I would not use it.. Stick to cash.
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Ignore the tin foil hats in the thread, they are also likely anti deposit.
Zelle will show your real name in the transfer so I would avoid using that. Cash app visible name can be changed so that the receiver will never know your real name. After a certain number of transactions, cash app will ask for your real name to tie back to the debit card / bank account, but this is only visible to you and whatever verification systems they use.
Now, if you were ever to be subpoenaed or criminally investigated, sure they can look up cash app transactions. But what is the likelihood of this happening to you? Gaetz used Venmo and only when he was being vetted for Attorney General did someone ask about the girls he was meeting. They weren't even trying to see if he was hiring escorts, the concern was that they were underage. And only after they talked with the girls, did they find out that Gaetz used Venmo. So think about that, he has been in Congress for years, gone through ethics investigations, and only when nominated for one of the most powerful appointed positions in the country did his use of an electronic payment method come to light.
Sure there's a risk. But what is the likelihood?
If you really want to be safe you could offer a gift card instead, pay for it by cash at a convenience store and then send the images to the provider. Providers might not accept because it's not the same as cash.
So think about that, he has been in Congress for years, gone through ethics investigations, and only when nominated for one of the most powerful appointed positions in the country did his use of an electronic payment method come to light.
I haven’t parcipitated in many years. Once an agency I used to use dissappeared. No one knew what happened. Very possible they just closed up shop, or they got in trouble. I was nervous about that for a while, but nothing came of it. So now I’m extra cautious. *adjusts tin foil hat*
This is an agentcy I contacted, not an independant. I don’t think they’ll take a gift card as they said the deposit was part of the verification. (I don’t have an issue with a one time deposit, it’s leaving a digital trail that concerns me.) This appears to be the only reputable agency in my area. If this is what they require, there must be plenty of people doing it. I don’t know what to do. I haven’t had luck finding anyone. My balls are deep ocean blue.
First, good to see that you're trying to think things through with the big head. Blue ball decisions, like most emergency actions tend to be sketchy.
If it's a well established agency I assume there are reviews up for providers that were at the agency. I would contact some of the reviewers who saws girls at the agency as ask them what their experience has been. You can also just ask if any alternative verification methods will work and then perhaps choose the one that seem to be the safest for you.
Seems like that might depend on the bank you have Zelle connected with.
It seems your name will be shared and, at least for US Bank, thought I'm not sure when that information was posted or if it's been updated by the bank. Might think they would update their FAQ if that has changed thought. It seems Wells Fargo might also share some information. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI8kNZdcgGE -- never got the video to play but the second comment from 6 months ago speaks to this.)
Does that mean they are exposing serious information? Depend, what email did you provide, or what mobile number?
For Zelle, not sure about some of the others as I don't use them, seems that it is very much like cash in that once you pay Zelle and your bank are not going to be able to do much about getting the money back if someone was scamming you.
So I would say before anyone used one of these payment options they should check with what is disclosed and think about how they want to setup the account (I would stay away from a business account as that might cause you serious headaches down the road) regarding names (or perhaps display names, email address or phone numbers associated with the account).
Yes, Zelle warns you that payments are final.
The name issue with Zelle may be bank dependent but unless you've used it before you may not know. I went to see a provider once and I texted her that I arrived at the hotel. I then realized I forgot the envelope at home. I told her I'd be delayed and told her what happened. She asked me if I had Zelle and I said yes. She said I could pay her that way.
The next month I looked at my bank statement and saw the transfer to her with what was apparently her real name. I assumed she had my name too at that point but what was done was done. I'm not sure how some women use Zelle without revealing their real names unless they use a friend's bank account to accept payments.
Cashapp allows you to pay in cash as an option as well. All you have to do is visit an in store location that accepts cash. 💰
Depositing Cash into Cash App:
Retail Partners:
You can deposit cash by visiting retailers like 7 Eleven, Baker's, Bashas', City Market, Circle K, Cox Foodarama, CVS Pharmacy, Delek, and Dollar General.
How to Deposit:
Let the cashier know you want to add money to your Cash App.
Show them the barcode from your app, which they will scan.
Maximum deposit is $500 per transaction.
You can deposit up to $1,000 every 7 days and up to $4,000 every 30 days.
* Not all providers are created equally. I do what makes you feel comfortable. I just had a photoshoot in LV and I had to supply a deposit for my photographer, hair & makeup artist too. As a professional escort I have required a deposit to book, since 2010. I have never had any issues personally. I have even had people send me $1k via snail mail. We are all so very different, so find the provider that fits your needs.
I've gone through all the various menus I can find on it.
Where does one find this?
IIRC, you can generate a barcode to give someone else and then they use that to make a cash payment to the account that generated the code. You take it to some participating location (like Western Union terminals at stores) and pay the cash there.
Of course for those generating the code it's not that hard to find a code reader so that information is not really protected from someone that is interested in seeing it -- but I also suspect it doesn't have anything but some routing information within the CashApp processing systems and not the associated bank account.
I ask Google everything. When I click on my cashapp I can see my scan code. I have a link 🔗 on my website that leads directly to my cashapp because I love to kiss 💋 keep it super simple.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Open Cash App and go to Activity: Open the Cash App on your device and navigate to the "Activity" tab.
Tap "Invite Friends": Tap on the "Invite Friends" option within the Activity tab.
Share your referral code:
Tap the share icon: Tap on the share icon (usually located in the top right corner of the screen).
Copy your link: You'll find your referral code and invite link here, and you can copy it directly from the app or select to share.
Share the link: You can share the link through various methods like messaging apps, email, or social media platforms, according to Cash App support
I’m never going to leave the casa without a deposit. I’m never going to go book a room for an incall date without a deposit. 💸 You can purchase a giftcard almost anywhere nowadays it’s super simple. I am a single Mom, so I offer many options to supply a deposit. As a sign of good faith a deposit 💵 is needed for me personally.
I haven't had a provider turn me down when I ask if I can send it using an Amazon or Uber GC. I pay for it in cash, take a picture of it and send it by email. Non traceable, as best you can do.
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In your case, it sounds like you just need a deposit for the first date with that agency? If they turn you down with my option, ask if they will accept my method but send a larger amount and not have that amount go against the balance.
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Normally I would never do that, but I don't know your options where you live so if this is a great agency it may be worth it.
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Lastly, j86568 is correct. Just ignore the "never send a deposit" crowd. They are only doing that for their own best interests and they try to use scare tactics to get you to not do it. I have been doing it for 5-6 years and never been burned.
What self interests would those be? Are they competitors with cash app or zelle?
Are they providers who don't do deposits?
Warning others to not do deposits is exactly the same what you're doing, except on an opposing side.
Saying don't do deposits isn't "scare tactics" or bullshit self-interest.
It's giving advice based on experience and understandong the amount of scams circulating in this biz.
It's the exact same as me giving advice to someone who wants to invest in crypto "projects" - don't. What is my self interest there?
I guess not wanting to get people scammed is self interest now. Funny how much mental gymnastics is done here.
And all for what? To get providers who do ask for deposits some extra money? But you're not doing that in self interest huh Robert.
I get it, different standards for buyers and sellers, par for the course for you.
One of the tin foil hats here, who hate that other people send deposits to great success, has now chimed in yet again. He...just...can't...help...himself.
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Just do what you want to do...what makes you feel comfortable. Don't listen to the control freaks here. They def do NOT have your best interests at heart...only theirs.
is the perfect description of him. It is quite apparent to anyone who reads his posts.
If you're not comfortable with what this agency is asking for, then move on, it ain't worth the stress/hassle that's gonna fuck with your mind.
And on a side note.
If there is a certain lady with that agency who you're fixed on, my bet is that she's probably listed on other sites where a deposit might not be required....just a thought
Oh... and by the way, thank you
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Used Zelle and was turned-off by my real name being exposed.
That being said, someone would have to make the case that transaction was payment for sex, as opposed to Brazilian fitness instruction or massage.
Still, your wife may have issues with multiple $500 payments to Dynasty or Domina, or BadGirl.
ATTB
The real name appears for both parties of the transaction.
I don't know how providers get around this other than by using an account that someone else owns.
and there's a reason why so many encourage legitimizing their business as much as possible (creating a LLC if possible). It can make things quite a bit easier.
Been around a long time. Also away a long time. Deposits were never a thing before. But after reading a lot if stories about them, I won't be doing them. Also never use Zelle. Usually Paypal or Venmo. thats it.
Right. I used to be more active but won’t send deposits so I play more with sugar babies. I see a few more providers advertising that they don’t require deposits, so maybe the tide is turning.
Those names will show up on credit card receipts if money is sent and paid using a card as payment method. I recommend something super vague and vanilla, perhaps "Jones Consulting" vs. "Sexy Janey."
And guys - pre-load those Cash App and Zelle and pay with those funds -- the purchases will still appear in the app history, but better than appearing in your bank account (it will just show simply as Cash App or Zelle transfer/pre-load).
And, possibly more important, choose something discreet.
Thank you.
I haven't tried NOT doing deposit... but I think I would, if I had a good reason... change my mind?
Do whatever the fuck you want with deposits. Why you need anyone to change your mind.
I’ve had both Cashapp and Zelle accounts shuttered.
One, from a client who got the banking cooties from sending large sums in BTC to another provider who was also deported, then banned from reentering the United States.
Second, having had people put silly messages in the subject line that prompted a review and closure of my account.
Both were convenient to use with clients that I could trust to not make banking compliance mistakes. Personally gift cards have had their run on maintaining anonymity. Not the case now with Delta gift cards in cash…
Venmo hasn’t given me any issues.
PayPal only with trusted clients.
BTC only if you know other people you’ve sent/received from hasn’t gotten any unwanted attention.
Fedex has been my favorite.