I just got the most interesting PM. The person who asked me to white list without meeting them told me I lack discretion. Now I neither mentioned their name, nor their exact words.  So frankly I see no discretion issue:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=376874&boardID=12&page=1

However, I do feel I have the right to raise a concern regarding how women are using the White List and see how both other men and women in this community feel.

I don't think threatening comments deserve discretion. He ends with the following:

"What what you say on the boards because you may piss off the wrong guy someday and he may retaliate, which would be a shame."

Now what the hell does that mean?   My dear fellow. I will not be intimidated into silence.  

Is this common on this forum? Ladies, do the men try an intimidate you when you question their honour and their actions?

You already had one train wreck below on this same subject. Is that not enough.

Or, you and your male friend have it out in emails, we are pretty done with this story.

someone who feels entitled to speak for everyone else here. Which is it?

which of course would have been against TER rules as well.

I guess if you all of a sudden get a 1/1 review, we will know where it came from.lol

Bad behavior is unfortunately a fact of life. Hobbyist will try to bully the ladies with threats of bad reviews, and certain ladies will try to threaten hobbyists with blacklisting. It's a shame, but it is a reality.

The good news is that if you have a history of good reviews, a single hobbyist can't cause you too much grief. It doesn't excuse his behavior, but I am willing to bet that you have already shared his name with your local sisterhood, and rightly so.

for you and the rest of the whinning Mangina's.

Thank you for asking though.

they would just move the thread instead of making a post like that.

I'm not so much interested in this particular man actually.  

What I'm interested in knowing is if that's common on this forum? Do women have to be afraid to post a question about behavior they're unsure of?

He made it sound like it's common for women to be harassed when men are displeased. Is this true? I'm rather new to the board, and have heard it can be unkind, but this is the first truly questionable behaviour I've run into.

....all the inquiries about WTF is wrong w/they're site, they'll  handle the dude & your threatening pm prob. in a week or so.

That's the best I can think of. I know one guy that sent those type of PM's to a provider, & he was moderated for a month, lost his posting & PM privileges. Give it a try, if he was really that threatening.

We? You got a mouse in your pocket there fella? Ohhhhhh, no silly me. That's not a mouse. That's your brain.

Newsflash buddy. No one gives a fat rat's ass what you think, or what you are interested in talking about.

Since this is a general discussion board, as long as the general discussion has something to do with the hobby, Lauren's post is perfectly within those guidelines. If you don't like it, well that's just tough shit fella. Being the anti-PC person that I am, allow me to take a moment to reassure you that you too are free to say as you please as well (provided you don't actually break any rules that is). Just try not to be too shocked when others, like myself, choose to exercise our own perogatives by letting you know that you are a sad excuse of a wasted sperm.

Now, carry on fella.

Oh one other thing. Why are you using your alias to brag about what you were doing last night? You might want to wipe your chin son. You missed a spot.

You didn't mention anyones name so I don't understand any man getting upset with you.

Giving a whitelist is special as far as i'm concerned. When I do that i'm saying in my eyes this man is very trustworthy. I'm putting my name on the line here by doing that.

I would never give a whitelist to a man I have never spent private time with. Even more than that usually it takes a few visits for me to be that comfortable with someone.

Kisses Haley

so stick to your guns and dont be bullied.

Too many ladies whitelisting guys they don't know.

It seems like someone is a drama queen and everytime something gets emailed to her, she feels the need to ask questions about it and act all threatened. There was no reason to start a new topic, you could have just put a comment on the old topic you linked to..

My feeling is, you are looking for attention

Do not know their boundaries in real life or in the fantasy life. They do stupid things, have larger ego's, are self important, don't give crap about others, would walk all over you, if you allow them and indestructible in their little minds.

Did I miss anything?

Look around in your real life while, shopping, driving, in restaurants, etc., you will see the sign if you observe.

So never mind.  No sweat off my back. That's what the delete button is for.

Thank you and goodnight

Hobbyist in question is pissed because he thought his PM (private mail), was private.
While you did not betray him by posting his handle, he now regrets that you are probably sharing it with everyone who asks.
Now, you start a new thread as to what you perceived as a threat after he already admonished you about excerpting from his PM. You again posted information that he entrusted to you.
It is clear that you did not break any TER rules by doing this, but as a hobbyist, I would never trust you with mail or PM's let alone book you.

To translate for BBBJDTCIMWSNQNS.
He is trying to save you from yourself by telling you that you are being a Drama Queen by starting another thread, and yes. You should have taken it to the PO Board.

Final translation.
You can not only throw a mangina under a bus but you can put it in reverse and run over him a few more times. He will book you for a session when he recovers.    

I did learn one thing from you diatribe though; that would be "OMFG thank the stars above I am not married to her".

I hope you do get some calls soon to occupy some of your time and anger. Best of luck.

By going public is will give pause to others who might think about pulling the same thing, and furthermore, she did the right thing by exposing the attempted extortion and reporting it to TER.  This will give hope to other providers who are similarly threatened.  I would hope they would ban or at least suspend the offenders membership.

The White List may not be a gold standard, but there's no reason to let it descend into a farce either.

Why any legitimate TER member is ticked off at Lauren is beyond me.  This is not drama but public service.

My hat's off to you Lauren.

I do believe in the WL and it's purpose.

The second thread was not a PSA. Even you are not that gullible.

When have you ever know either one of us shy away from board management posts?

Yep we sure do.  I have a very bad review on another board because I dared to refuse to see a guy for a second time because I just didn't want to see him again.  I have a right to make that choice.  But he went ballistic, and wrote a bad review on me in retaliation.  I found out later, that several other providers had the same experience, and also refused to see him for second visits.  When I refused, then it must have been the final straw for him.

And posting this on the Provider's Only board would have served no purpose in telling all of us something we already know!  

Lauren did the right thing because she is doing the most she can to keep herself safe by exposing the threats of this person.  The very same principle as flicking on the lights and the cockroaches scurry away.  Now if she were on here everyday posting something of this nature, then that would be a drama queen.  But she is neither.  

Kudos to Lauren for taking a stand and not taking the BS!

I feel that Lauren has acted responsibility to bring this into the light.  
She has not posted his member name.  There is no defense in PMs when it involves a request to break the rules.  TER requirements state someone you can "personally vouch" for.  Some guy who e-mails who you've never met? Not concluded a successful meeting with? Not even screened?  How about some vice cop?

I expect the ladies will now say "NO, I do not WL anyone."  
skb

Where's the link to it? I scan the page but I'm probably missing it.

Of course I've been drinking (a lot) so I couldn't swear to it. lmao

Ah! Thanks. I just didn't assumed "Regional Boards" was the end of it and never bothered to look further down.

as suggested with the PM he sent you. I would also out him on the provider boards, and personally, I would out him publicly.

In the excellent words of Curly Washburn (Jack Palance in City Slickers), "I crap bigger than you!"

take yourself way too seriously, ya didn't get it.

tries to speak for everyone on the board.

But, thanks to both of you and GaGambler for removing any possible doubts that he was one of you.

I am waaay too lazy too use an alias.

Nor do I give a fuck what others (including you) think about me.

(in the first post), it's not funny. Of course, if I had to announce it in the second post, it probably wasn't all the funny either. Hopefully some got, but rye humor doesn't elicit the ROTFLMFAO type of response.

your contribution to illuminating me regarding DC's and little phil's modus operandi regarding objectionable posts. Thanks btw.

This just might be a new record for staking out your territory and running the new girl off before she has a chance to get comfortable on this board! Man, you guys sure are talented at running women off just as soon as they show up here.

And man, the double hit here was superbly executed. First put her in her place, then follow up with the 'drama queen'.

You know, one of these days, maybe you trolls will just be honest for once. Just say to the new girl who shows up "You are just a piece of meat, your job is to suck and be silent, so go sit in the corner while the men talk". Why not just come right out and say that instead of all the pussyfooting and posturing? Just cut to the chase next time and tell her she isn't wanted in Boy's Town.

But I have to hand it to you. You moved fast this time. The poor girl got two threads in before you jumped her. Real classy

Good job on TWO counts.

First, in refusing to whitelist someone you had never seen and bringing that issue to the GD board so we know this sort of crap goes on.

Second, in reporting this guy -- for threatening you -- to TER admin; and AGAIN making that situation public.

In BOTH cases you exercised DISCRETION as well; which is the hallmark of a solid provider.

I must say that I am impressed with the insight you bring to your posts and your presence is welcome here. At least, welcome by me.

"Why not just come right out and say that instead of all the pussyfooting and posturing? Just cut to the chase next time and tell her she isn't wanted in Boy's Town."

Actually that is my sentiments to you. You have no work again tonight so here you are again yapping away as if you own this board, or at minimum, you have roosted here permanently to spill your bile when ever you feel like it.

Again, thank the Lord I am not married to you. I just wish he would also shut your mouth or fill it or something.

Oh and I did wipe my chin. It was after that snowball tonight with a $500/hr hottie and not a $200/hr pottie... mouth.

It is good to see that you will be her mentor from this point forward, NOT.

Not all providers around here want to have almost zero volume

out of this one MattGina???? Now it was "rye" humor!  It was nothing but your usual "who are you to speak for everyone else"?  It's not like you don't do it 10 times a week!
BBBJ's reply was right on point. After her first attempt, she should take her whiney post to the PO board, and let the drama queens have a field day with it! She already wore this one out.  Maybe she didn't fill her quota of trainwrecks for the week!

In answer to the OP....YES men will always give you shit over crap like that.  Manginas will continue to answer the same post on the same subject over, and over,and over and.... They are like a recorded loop never stopping to rest, eat, take a shit, or date a female!!!!!

There you both go projecting again.

Sweethearts, YOU two are the ones who can't get laid without coughing up the benjamins. Just because you can't get a woman to talk to you without paying her doesn't mean I have the same problem.

Yes, gentlemen, as a matter of fact I am low volume. I prefer it that way. Just ask the local guys who complain about how difficult it is to see me. I stay as busy as I want to be, and that is really all that matters. The men who do get to book with me appreciate knowing they aren't one of many that day.

You will get those black and blue marks on your body. Of course you can simply take off his glasses when he arrives. Just don't put them in the same glass with the choppers.
Man of the month should be very happy, lol.

Actually, I think she did a damn fine job of discussing two important issues. What you don't get is, neither my opinion, nor your opinion has any more weight than the other.

development there, it would've gotten missed..

yes you are right she started a new topic to get attention but she did it to bring attention to the situation, not to herself.

anyway, if you don't like it, why don't you just pm a moderator because nobody really cares about your "feelings" on where and how and when to post.

I've had to ask EVERY TIME in order to get WL'd from ladies I saw multiple times.  Yet, I see these same ladies WL other guys after they post reviews that state it was their first time meeting her.  From my perspective, zero credibility...all politics.    And there are times where this will be key...

Sad to see how this topic was taken out of context and used for attacking purposes. There is never a good reason to attack a provider, and there have been some insults thrown each way by hobbyist and providers at each other.

I am suprised the moderators have not CLOSED this topic at this point or at least deleted it or merged it with the other topic. Some of you posters may be on the discussions boards for far too long that there is animosity developed between both parties at this point.

Keep in mind, now we have 2 threads about this topic and the flaming is still ongoing.

My parents taught me, if you have nothing nice to say to each other, than don't say it at all

just my 2 cents, keep the change

Happy Hunting

It's not as bad as it seems, Gfehunting.
The back and forth is merely opposing views, and a little extracurricular button pushing.
She probably laughs as much as I do over some of these threads and comments.

Please let me know when you become moderator

It's a fucking beautiful day! We're ALL young, dumb, and full of cum!

Everybody should just get laid today!

And nooo, I'm not drunk yet!

Ya, I did pick up on some hostility. You shoulda seen what GatorJimmy said about me and GaGambler before it got pulled. So sad that so much hate and hostility can be so pent up in someone, and no recourse to rid himself of it. But, you're right life is way too good to let such things effect me.

hunger cravings for a pastrami on rye kicking in.

Outing publicly can't possibly go over well.  However, if providers want to know which white list they can't trust, I'm sure that's something that can be discussed between ladies.

I have given you a lot of grief on the various boards, but I don't recall saying anything that was pulled.

Oh shit, I just reread your post, and I guess I need lessons in "reading comprehension", lol

I am so used to being accused of shit, I just naturally thought you were referring to a post of mine, not one directed at me. My bad. lol

Did Jimmy really say something bad about me? I find that hard to beleive, and I doubt it was done with malice, well I doubt the malice was towards me at least. lol