I won't swear that there was a time that that we never had sex; but there were at least a few multi-night dates where all we did was cuddle in bed for one reason or another.  And I enjoyed those experiences very much.

Anyone here ever visit a provider and just go to cuddle and talk with the person? Just to enjoy that other person's company?

Should I ask the provider in person for this or over the phone?

Did you tell the provider before hand?

I have since gotten over it and now experience my sessions in a more physically interactive way

I think you should tell her in advance. Make it clear that you expect to pay her full rate. But do tell her because not everyone is affectionate like that. Some women may only feel comfortable with having sex and get creeped out with the intimacy of cuddling

And giving that advice as you did is not correct...not by a long shot.

but that's just me, time is still time, and some women would rather have sex than cuddle, just like most men. I can see why many women would want to charge just as much for "cuddling" as they do for any other activity.

See, we don't disagree on everything. lol

Thank you however for reminding me what a sick world it is out there.

There are a few providers that I have looked forward to that part of the date because they are that interesting and that sweet.

No cuddling, just talking. He didn't tell me in advance but I was fine with it. We had a really interesting conversation. He had started seeing providers because he was writing a book about how to grow weed and used the providers to model in the photos. interestingl guy...
Anyways basically whatever the gentleman wants to do with our time (within my boundaries) is fine with me...I just want them to be happy.

I think you have better understanding of legal issues than the statement that you just made.

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What makes you think that it is less work to cuddle than to screw? The intimacy can be more taxing than sex. Sure it is rewarding but a great orgasm can also be satisfying. The

I'd love to cuddle with a provider if I could find one in Boston

You didn't have to suck or fuck some old balls and you still got coin.  

...I'm all for it as part of the session.

...as so many providers' websites claim is a large portion of the reason why I hobby.  Which is why I usually go for appointments well in excess of the typical two hours.

I've never done only cuddling and talking, but there's always some amount of time for that, either before the fun stuff starts, or in between rounds one and two, or something.

Several of my favorite providers do offer social rates, which are quite heftily discounted from their usual rate.  If all you want is a companion for dinner or a show, that kind of thing is out there.  And I've always enjoyed those kinds of dates as well.

He's BA-ack!  And you made me do it

For me personally making an intimate connection with a stranger comes easily  but this is not the norm for most people. This is a skill that I have developed in my journey to have more empathy for people. Sex is the easiest part of the job. Anyone can do that. But to be truly present for someone, to peacefully care for a stranger takes emotional strength and inner peace. Quieting the mind and listening with your soul is a special gift that not everyone is willing to give

Some people have charisma.
Some people are brilliant.

All I seem to get is a quickie and endless cuddling.

but that said, I am not aware of any law against advertising on an escort mall site, nor am I aware of any law that a person can not charge for her time to hold another person in his/her arms as long as their genitals and other naughty parts do not make contact.

However, I'm prepared to be corrected if anyone has the facts to do so.

~I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a holiday inn last night~

I trust you also agree that the disclaimers on hooker sites is for "time and companionship" is a viable defense as well?

OK...you and fish can be co-counsel defending some hookers/johns  LOL

but, some things are just not that risky to discuss.

I mean applying your logic, we'd never ever make contact in the first place.

For example, it is generally agreed that there is nothing wrong with a clothing request, so is asking for a hug or a cuddle that much more out of line?

I guess the best advice is do what you are comfortable with so long as no specific mention of sex for money is made.

So you read the case law?

Again, read the case law on the subject.

If you show up to an LE sting, it won't matter what you are there for, they can and still will arrest you. Convict you??? That's a different matter, but to say that they CAN NOT arrest you shows your naivety on the subject.

and if you are going to act like a jail house lawyer please don't make inane statements like "until you verbally (to include writing) agree" It shows your lack of education, and poor command of the English language.

If you are going to "teach" the game, you should go "rent a clue" first. Some of us have decades of experience in the subject, and that trumps anything you might have read in a textbook or watched on Law and Order.

That's a good way of putting it. I think some people think we just lay there and get humped. But really we don't just use our body. We use our mind. We have to be (the overused phrase) "the complete package".
There are millions of hot girls in this biz. But to make guys come back you really have to stand out and shine. I'm naturally shy but I put that aside so I can make him feel comfortable and entertain, flirt, listen, focus and relate...just let my personality come out.

but yeah, he did kind of miss the boat on this one.

When it becomes legalized and you don't need to be TheHotGuy2014 anymore is when it'll matter.

Then perhaps you'll understand the context in which we are discussing.

Is simply on the advertising portion of the venue.

Who said anything about trying to talk your way out of it?  If your unable to comprehend what you read, there are programs out there that can help.  I never once advocated for trying to talk your way out of it.  Because if you are at the point where you are trying to talk your way out of it, it's already game over.

As I told Dr who, go to a symposium on human trafficking, which directly feeds the underground sex industry; and find out what the actual law requires them to do.

Good luck with your quest...I know that you are well meaning.

First you say if you don't agree to pay for sex in a sting they can't arrest you.  Then when GaG calls you on that blatant foolishness you say obviously you meant "convict" not "arrest."  Well, pardon us for taking your words on their plain meaning.
Next, and despite the above, you write this tripe: "If you are in a room with a LEO during a sting and you do not take the bait when they offer up prices for sex, they have to let you go."
Well, no, they don't and they won't.  They will arrest you, then lie in their testimony and try to get you to cop a plea to a lesser offense.  That's just the way it works.
So now no doubt you'll tell us all that you plainly meant not "they have to let you go," but "they may arrest you but after they can't prove their case they have to let you go."  Which is also untrue, of course.
Please stop your verbal contortions before you injure yourself.  Also remember the old adage, "the first thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is stop digging."  So please, drop that shovel now.
Then take a course in basic English

surely they wouldn't arrest a guy who's "bonafide hot," they'd just assume the girl was head over heels for him...even if he doesn't have the education to know that "bona fide" is two words...