I have been a recent convert to the hobbist way of life. lol. So, you wonderful ladies out there, is it romance or just and act?

(One provider and I actually cried when the session was over)

By making a donation for her time, I kind of look at it as cutting to the chase. I was just hoping to know if those feelings are mutual or does it go away as soon as I walk out the door?

These are wonderful ladies, we can thank them all for being open minded enough to be willing to share their wonderful bodies and minds with us. Sure they charge for their time, but they certainly deserve the compensation. Go ahead enjoy your time with her, just realise the clock is running.

and I have had sessions that I couldn't wait for it to be over.

Others, we have had such a great time and I really enjoyed my time with them.
I have had some of the best orgasms with a couple clients. Some make me laugh more. Others, all they have to do is walk into the room.

So, to answer your question:

It depends on the client!!!

Shaye

the "woman" on top of me, that is

Heaven knows we need never be ashamed of our tears, for they are rain upon the blinding dust of earth, overlying our hard hearts. ~Charles Dickens, Great Expectations, 1860


Heavy hearts, like heavy clouds in the sky, are best relieved by the letting of a little water. ~Antoine Rivarol


I often want to cry. That is the only advantage women have over men - at least they can cry. ~Jean Rhys


It is such a secret place, the land of tears. ~Antoine de Saint-Exupery, The Little Prince


Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward. ~Kurt Vonnegut


Laughter through tears is my favorite emotion. ~Steel Magnolias


Let your tears come. Let them water your soul. ~ Eileen Mayhew


The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea. ~Isak Dinesen


The sorrow which has no vent in tears may make other organs weep. ~ Henry Maudsley


The soul would have no rainbow had the eyes no tears. ~John Vance Ch

next time take turns dicing the onions or get one of those chop-a-matics. ~ VonRyan01

Be happy you made such a good connection w/ a lady, but don't expect it to be a long lasting one. Sure it *can* happen, but it's certainly the exception not the norm. When you walk out the door, another gent is walking in the door at some point shortly there after.

It's a true gem of a lady that can make your time together feel that special, but don't lose your perspective, your still a customer and business is business.

No Bear ....

It happens all the time.

Just last night I had a girl crying, pleading .. begging.

But I was a good sport - I stopped.

In all seriousness, what difference does it make? Did you enjoy her company? Did she seem to enjoy yours?
You're at a cocktail party and introduce your wife to your boss' wife; your inlaws just came over, you're meeting your new neighbors, you're in a job interview, etc. etc. Are you acting?
All day long, are we not putting our best foot forward; on our best behaviour?
That's the closest comparison I can give. We are both strangers when we meet. Our intent is to make it the most pleasant, most natural, and most relaxing time it can be. And that is all real.

Now, the crying when the session is over..??
I have to say, Interesting Woman made me almost spit my out my coffee! LOL I don't know what to tell you on that one..

Wow am I in the wrong hobby!!!!! I guess there are no romantics left. just sex and money? Hmmmm

When she says it is mutual.  Offer to quit your job, your wife, and your life and move in with her so she will never have to cry when you leave again.

I am only telling you what Singleton and Megapig wanted to say. They are just too shy and withdrawn to tell you how they really feel.

Oh, and by the way,

IAATM   LOL

cuz i swear, i saw you and that girl last night!  

the heart????

This is my story. New to hobby, had a few.  Met ATF, she was way too good.  Took her to far away places for multi days of fun, not just in the room.  Our last intimate session ended and she turned away from me.  All was very quiet for minutes as I held her spoon like.  Then I realized all was not just calm and peace.  I turned her head to me and found her crying quietly to herself.  I lost it.  Great weekend.

Forward to next two or three sessions.  Good but not as magical as the one mentioned above.  

Forward a year.  We both realized what we'd become to eacher.  We called it love, but it was taylored for us.  It was a event of mutual bliss that brought us so close together that we knew that, in the big picture, it would remain forever special in our memories.  We know that we created this between ourselves and because of that we will remain special to eachother.

We know that this moment had a long term effect, but we also know that we are not going to change our lives because of it.

Was it a show?  A show of emotion, to be sure.  A show for effect, absoliutely not.  How do I know....???  Well I have pondered that... but as the time has gone by she has  remembered that weekend and gotten tears in her eyes.  And her husband has told me that this happens when she is at home too.

You can have special moments with special people who happen to be providers.  You needen't alter eachothers lives because of it IMHO.  Enjoy what you had (have).  It's in your head forever to call back on.  I find that enjoyable.

Never insult someone who has given that to you by even thinking that these special moments mean that you can see her "off the clock".  She still needs to make a living and why wouldn't you want to contribute to her wellbeing?  In fact I find that I want to "help" now because I care more.  My tips are now generous and given from a different place....the heart???

"And her husband has told me that this happens when she is at home too." -- AnotherView

?

friends.  When they got to that level of relationship, sometimes it is easier to create excuses for the special escapades.

Of course, all our perceptions about this are as much about our assumptions/expectations and attendant behavior and its impact on the other person than "objective" reality.  In other words, all of the above.  Sometimes there is more than money, other times there isn't.

??!@?/?%^&*#???@#$%!@/???

believe me, i'm as open-minded as the next junior-grade cynicalman, but clients discussing these intimate matters with their ATF's husband is a new one to me!

but hey, it's cool ... whatevah floats ... floats!  

i'm sure i can dig up equally bizarre tales out of MY past

LOL

Doesn't mean that they has discussions about sex lives.

Rich is sitting on the living room couch watching the Dallas Cowboys pummel the Washington Redskins.  (Shut up, it's my story)  Bob saunters into the room whistling "Love For Sale".

Rich:  Hey, Bob.
Bob:  Hey, Rich!  What's the score?
Rich:  73-1 'Boys
Bob:  1???  How the hell did the Redskins get 1 point?
Rich:  The Cowboys felt sorry for them so they spotted them a point.
Bob:  Oh.  That was nice of them.
Rich:  Yeah. (pause)  So, Bob, did you enjoy fucking my wife?
Bob:  You know I did, Rich.  That wife of yours is a real gamer.  I thought she was going to suck my balls right through my cock.
Rich:  (laughs)  I know what you mean, Bob.  She'll suck you cross-eyed.  (they both laugh)  We have thin walls, so I know you fucked her HARD in the ass.  I had to beat my meat sitting out here listening to her grunt while you pounded that sweet asshole.
Bob:  Yeah, that shit was tight.  Man, your penis must really be as small as she says it is.
Rich:  I don't want to talk about it.
Bob:  No prob, bro.  I understand.  Can I ask you something though?
Rich:  I said I don't want to talk about it!
Bob:  Not about that.  Can I ask you something about Ursula?
Rich:  Sure, Bob.  What is it?
Bob:  Well.  I don't really know how to ask this.  I mean when we were done she rolled over and...well.  Does Ursula ever cry after she has sex with you?
Rich:  Cry after sex?  She laughs sometimes.  Sometimes she yells and throws things, but I don't remember her ever crying?  What the fuck, man?  Did you make my wife cry?
Bob:  Well, it wasn't really like that.  She isn't sad or upset or anything.  She started telling me all this stuff about how it's never been like that, and how it's like a religious experience, and shit like that.  She never did anything like that with you?
Rich:  Hmmm...not that I can remember.  Of course, I do have this freakishly small and thin penis.  She usually doesn't even know we've had sex until I cum in her eye.  Not that I'm complaining though.  Thanks to guys like you I'm watching football on a 50" plasma screen tv.
Bob:  Yeah, that thing looks good.
Rich:  Almost as good as my wife's tight little ass.
(They both laugh)
(pause)
Bob:  Hey, Rich.
Rich:  What?
Bob:  Let me see it.
Rich:  Fuck you, Bob.


-- Modified on 9/5/2003 5:44:20 PM

still, i hope this anonymous poster guy is not taking all this too hard ... dude, we're just clowning around, dig? ... if you had yourself this heart-felt epiphany with your special provider-cum-gal-pal then more power to you, really

but i'm still stuck living in a "world of pain" where it's already bad enough that civilians make me cry ... i have no desire to go and PAY someone to pile on some of more of that shit on top! LOL

it's all about them tears ... tears shed over spent cash!  

cynically yours,

Cynicalman 3.0
formerly Cynicalman 2.0
forever & always: singleton

I just re-read my post and the bit about her husband could have been taken two ways.

What I meant is that her husband told me that when she has reminisced about that weekend, she has gotten tears in her eyes.  I did NOT mean that she crys when they have sex.

She cried not because I was so damned good in the sack (though I'm sure....well perhaps not..) but because she had a very very nice weekend and it had come to an end.



Now about the relationship...  He is a great guy.  He loves his wife and she him.  She enjoys the biz and he wants her happy in what she does.  He is very supprotive.

When she and I became more than escort/client, more than friends, I eventually got to speak with him. It was an odd moment, but he quickly dispelled any fears I had.  Later we met and have done so more than once.  He and I meet as firends with no sexual get togethers or anything of that nature.

We don't compare "notes".  We have a respectful relationship. Everyone involved wants for the others to be happy and enjoy eachother and themselves.  I am convinced that this takes a self assured man to give his wife this kind of "gift"  and I have learned from him a new and open way to treat all people IMHO.

I don't worry or wonder what I am not getting or who she is with, I am greatfull for the time we have together.  I am pleased when she is satisfied and happy.  Whether that comes from me, her husband or another client is irrelevent.  Nothing she does with others subtracts from my experiences with her.  I think that her husband feels similarly.

If there is anything I didn't expect from this it is the sensation of worry or concern I get from not knowing if she is safe.  This happens most when she travels with a client.  I think it's a natural feeling to have for someone you care about.

a way different relationship.  That is why I wrote under this alias.  Y'all have read my stuff elsewhere.  I don't want to make too much connecton to my other posts.  Cuz, the names have been changed to protect the innocent.

And Cynicalmen...there were some bumps in the road and thoughts about payin for it along the way.  Man have I paid over the years (now I am crying). But what I've got now with her (them) I'm happy with. (I "splained" more further down in the thread.)

Now some other providers I've seen....Not always so good.

Thanks Shaye,

It's good to hear. I'm from the philly area, so maybe the next time I am looking for a campanion for some fun...

As for the crying thing... lol. I guess you had to be there?

Bear

"Thanks to guys like you I'm watching football on a 50" plasma screen tv."

Is there anyway we can insure that your story goes down in some joke history record, or something? Like the 'who's on first?'
I was laughing so hard!
I haven't laughed so hard since the "Cheese Pot" thread, and I actually mentioned that one today to a friend and he about fell off his chair!
LOL That's great..


-- Modified on 9/6/2003 7:47:09 AM

so thoroughly.

For those who laugh alongside with your post, it is very interesting to note the other aspect of the public personas.  I guess the time spent in this hobby has left notable marks inside.

Very clearly the laughs were toward the post of the 2 fictional characters exchanging dialogue about an unnique situation and NOT at anyone's real life personal situation..

T.V sitcoms 'mock' complicated relationships all the time...ever laugh at those? If so..then blame 'this hobby' and the 'notable marks' it's 'left inside' you.

That's exactly it.

You need to grow a few more layers of skin.  I tried to take your gripe seriously, but, dude, it was a joke.  Get over it.  The idea of talking about a session with the provider's husband struck me as funny.  Now I have to make fun of your total lack of a sense of humor.

I see two possibilities here:
1.  You are an upper-middle class California Democrat.
2.  You have a freakishly small penis and a 50" plasma screen tv. (see below)

Whatever you do, do NOT visit the humor board.  Just a bunch of soulless blackhearted right-wing bastards on that board.  Sick, sick, sick.  And now for something completely different.

An organ grinder walks into a bar with his monkey on his shoulder.  He sits down at the bar, and the monkey hops down onto the stool next to him.
The bartender comes over and says, "What'll you have?"
The organ grinder orders a shot and a beer for himself and a beer for the monkey.  The bartender figures what the fuck, so he brings their drinks.  He does his shot, and they down their beers together.  Then the monkey goes nuts!  He jumps up on the bar and starts hopping and screeching!  Then he grabs a bowl of cherries and pours them down his throat!  Then he just quietly sits back down on the bar stool.
The bartender asks, "What the fuck was that all about?"
The organ grinder says, "I'm not really sure.  Something to do with his circus days.  Whenever he drinks, he just has to have round food.  He won't do any damage, but he might eat all your olives.  I'll pay for anything he eats before we leave."
"Well, alright, but I'm keeping track.", and the bartender pours another round.
The organ grinder does his shot, and they down their beers together.  The monkey jumps up on the bar and downs a bowl of coctail olives, then he sits right back down.
Round 3, and this time when the monkey goes ape-shit he doesn't find any round food on the bar.  He starts bouncing around the bar, hollering and throwing shit.  Then he swings off the lights and lands on the pool table.  He grabs the 8-ball and swallows it with much effort, then he calmly walks back over to the bar and sits down.
The bartender is so pissed he's turning bright red, "HE JUST ATE MY 8-BALL!  OUT!  GET OUT!"
As the pair are leaving he yells after them, "AND DON'T COME BACK UNTIL THAT DAMN MONKEY LEARNS HOW TO BEHAVE!"
About a month later, the organ grinder and his monkey walk back into the bar.  The bartender recognizes them right away.  It's hard to forget a monkey walking into your bar.
He says, "Hold it!  I told you not to come back here until that monkey learned how to behave!"
The organ grinder says, "Don't worry.  He learned his lesson.  I'm really sorry about last time.  Can't we just sit quietly at the end of the bar and have a couple of drinks?  We've had a real long day of organ grinding."
"Fine.", the bartender pours their drinks and they sit down.
He keeps a close eye on them as the organ grinder downs his shot, and they both drink their beers together.  The monkey very cautiously climbs onto the bar and retrieves a bowl of cocktail onions.  One by one he shoves them up his ass then pulls them out and eats them.  The bartender is furious!
"YOU LYING MOTHERFUCKER!  YOU SAID HE LEARNED HIS LESSON!"
"He did.  Now he checks everything for size first."

post but I didn't make any derogative remake against you.

People who are good at mocking others tend to put down those who disagreed with them or acted differently.  You have proven my point by your response.

We are just two different kind of people even though our tastes of women are similar.

from all sorts of people, but I don't find most of the crueler, vulgar jokes funny.  I guess my sensibility on this subject is different from yours and many others.

I was under the impressions from past posts and word of mouths that you and others in this sub thread have more compassion and are more understanding towards the sometimes unusual circumstances that could happen in this hobby.  I thought it was this hobby that had made people somewhat jaded and cynical so that they would laugh at a joke clearly written at the expenses of other's revelation.  It is even more surprising for me to find out that I was wrong about the cynical part.

Different people choose different ways of conducting themselves.  I had a lot of respect for you and the other 2 members based on things I observed in the past in TER.  I guess my expectation was too high that I was bound to be disappointed sooner or later.

Then again, who cares about the opinion of me, a nosy, over weighted nerd?  It is not like I act the way how sophisticatd and beautiful people behaved.

Sweet Jeebus, get over it.  There's a fine line between sensitive and open sore.  

joke    (jok)

n.
Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.
A mischievous trick; a prank.
An amusing or ludicrous incident or situation.
Informal.
Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality: The accident was no joke.
An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock: His loud tie was the joke of the office.

v. joked, jok·ing, jokes
v. intr.
To tell or play jokes; jest.
To speak in fun; be facetious.

v. tr.
To make fun of; tease.


p.s. Your entire post was a passive aggressive attack.  I suggest you re-read it.  The difference between us is that it didn't get under my skin.

more than once, but I'm still able to laugh at myself and the situation. What's the point of living and learning if you can't heal yourself to the point of being able to have some brevity at life's misdealings and happenstance.

To me, there is too much seriousness in the world today.

Like Otter replied to Boone in "Animal House" when Boone said, "I'm immature . . I don't take anything seriously."

Otter Says [putting a bag on the bar and pulling out a 14" dildo with a blue satin ribbon wrapped around it in candy cane pattern with a bow on top] "Give her this . . .she'll take this seriously!"

Sums it all up for me!

Cheers,

HPG

"He does not tell me what to play and I do not tell him how to run his business!"

Trip, you nailed it on the head. Life is a series of triumphs, tragedies and comedies. Humour can be found in all aspects, one has but to look.

Spec, to me the conversation between Rich and Bob was hilarious, AND more importantly, a humorous look at a difficult situation that a lot of people (including me) found hilarious.

Don't see the real harm in that one!?

Cheers,

HPG

-- Modified on 9/7/2003 6:41:43 PM

only acceptable one.

Humor can be expressed nicely, more edgy or down right mean.  I am a more sensitive person so I found his sort of humor in this incident disagreeable and offensive.  Others view it differently.  That is all.

At least we can all express our thoughts on this issue without regard to whose side others took.



-- Modified on 9/7/2003 11:07:40 PM

It's not for me to tell someone else how they should feel about anything, but because I've always enjoyed your posts I'd like to offer a couple of comments which are meant in a constructive way.  

I'll begin by saying I also found tripNatl's post with the hypothetical dialog between the client & husband to be funny as hell.  I don't think that makes me or anyone else who felt that way either cynical, uncaring, or lacking in compassion.  While humor can often be cruel & done with malicious intent, that certainly isn't always the case.  And I don't feel that it was done in that way this time.  

Threads often evolve into sub-threads with a meaning/life of their own & I think that's what happened here.  At least I read the husband/client dialog absent a connection in my mind to the original post.  I laughed WITH tripNatl & Ali, not AT the original poster's predicatment.  To me, there's a huge difference in the 'with' & the 'that' as there is with most humor.  

I've seen or heard jokes in the past that touched on something a little personal & could have easily been offended by them, but unless I feel they were malicious in intent I shrug them off & try to see the humor myself without being overly sensative.  

I hope you will re-examine this as I think by what you've posted you may be making some incorrect judgements.  Your call obviously...but that's my .02.

of AnotherView's message or not.

According to AnotherView’s original message, he had a special moment with his ATF.  Afterwards, his ATF was overcome with emotion and quietly crying to herself.

Later on, his ATF husband told him that whenever the memory of that weekend was brought up, she had gotten tears in her eyes even when she was at home – “but as the time has gone by she has remembered that weekend and gotten tears in her eyes.  And her husband has told me that this happens when she is at home too.”

TripNatl responded to Cynicalman 2.0 (singleton)’s message “believe me, i'm as open-minded as the next junior-grade cynicalman, but clients discussing these intimate matters with their ATF's husband is a new one to me!” by posting a message with humorous dialogue.  JMHO that post though no doubt is funny and humorous in abstract is mean and cruel in reality.

Here are part of the dialogue I found offensive and demeaning:

***

“Rich: (laughs) I know what you mean, Bob.  She'll suck you cross-eyed.  (they both laugh)  We have thin walls, so I know you fucked her HARD in the ass.  I had to beat my meat sitting out here listening to her grunt while you pounded that sweet asshole.”

“Bob:  Yeah, that shit was tight.  Man, your penis must really be as small as she says it is.”

…

“Rich:  Hmmm...not that I can remember.  Of course, I do have this freakishly small and thin penis.  She usually doesn't even know we've had sex until I cum in her eye.  Not that I'm complaining though.  Thanks to guys like you I'm watching football on a 50" plasma screen tv.”

***

I guess in order to achieve the desirable effect, he had to mock those persons involved in this complicated relationship in a dismissive manner.

If one look from the viewpoint that instead of the lady’s husband and her regular having the conversation, it was two hobbyists talking with each other about the same lady who is also their ATF or an ex-husband and the current husband discussing the welfare of the wife, maybe some of those ladies and hobbyists who had enjoyed much of TripNatl’s humor will start to think differently.

Let's reverse the gender and change the roles of the parties involved in this complicated relationship: 2 ladies discussed the situation of their favorite client - he had became too attached to or had expressed too much emotions with one of them.

If someone made fun of the situaion and posted a similar style of humorous message like TripNatl with the discussion centered on the hobbyist being reamed by a strap-on dildo and then became emotional while one lady repeatedly wanted to know whether the other lady's body is masculine like, I suspected that many in this board would denounce that person instead of laughing alongside with him.

It is sad for me to say that I disagree with you on this issue; just like when I found Ali, Sodona, singleton and HPG’s responses disagreeable, some more so than the others.  All these members are ones I had/have held very high regard.

Then again, a good discourse is best conducted with honest expressions regardless whose side others took, even though it is often difficult to publicly disagree with those who one liked/like very much.

*** modified to add the reverse role example ***

-- Modified on 9/9/2003 12:57:40 AM

You are reading much more into tripNatl's post that I did.  As stated before, I did not view it as an attempt to be hateful.  I don't recall enough (anything actually) of other posts by tripNatl to do other than judge this one on its own merits or lack of same.  If on the contrary he was someone who had previously impressed me as being a guy with a malcious bent I would probably have a different POV.  But even AnotherView has indicated he took no offense, & I assume he's being honest in saying that.

While I can't really speak for anyone but myself, I think that Sedona & HPG probably interpeted the post in the same way I did.  Neither impress me as the type of person who would intentionally laugh at another's expense.  I don't do that myself & I know Ali well enough to know she wouldn't either.

Yes, if certain things were substituted & maybe genders reversed we might all feel differently.  But IMO that wasn't what was written nor the context in which I feel it was written.  If that's the case then such an alteration would be a distortion of the intent.  I could give examples of what I mean, but that would lead too far afield & maybe cloud things further.  

I'm probably repeating myself from what was said in my first post, but the reason I responded in the first place was not an attempt to change your mind about tripNatl's post...only because you use the past tense (had, liked, etc) in referring to others in whom you expressed disappointment.  It's sad to think that your opinion has been changed by something of this nature which is likely nothing more than a matter of interpretation.  That was the entire thrust of my first reply & of this one as well.

I started writing this post to apologize for offending you, but you are reading WAY too much into this joke.  It was a glorified dick joke, nothing more.  I never intended to imply that it had anything to do with Anotherview or any other person living or dead.  
I didn't see any humor in this thread until I read the post to which I responded, not Anotherview's post.  I spent about 15 minutes writing that joke, inspired by "clients discussing these intimate matters with their ATF's husband".  The joke was about a client discussing a session with that provider's husband immediately after said session.  The joke was not that Rich and Bob are friends.  The joke is essentially that Rich has a tiny little dick, exacerbated by the fact Bob has just fucked Ursula and is now talking about it with her husband Rich.  They are fictional characters put into a situation that in real life might be awkward.  Instead, they are perfectly at ease, and Rich's small penis is the source of conflict.  There is some humor in the way they candidly and graphically (sic) discuss Bob and Ursula's encounter, but the laughs are directed at Rich's dick.  In Anotherview's post, his provider friend cried because she grew close to him during their time together and they would soon part.  In my post, Bob's provider friend cried because she finally got P-H-U-K-T.  BIG difference.  I can't believe I just had to explain a dick joke.  That really takes all the fun out of making a joke.
I want to apologize for offending you, but I'm finding it very difficult to empathize with you.  It was a dick joke, and that seems to be exactly what your complaint is about.  It seems to me that your whole gripe is that I gave Rich a freakishly small penis instead of a freakishly large penis.  I jokingly replied to your first response, because I didn't realize how deeply you were affected by it.  Not many people take a dick joke as seriously as apparently you do.  Your response to my initial response made it clear that it was in fact the humourosly small johnson to which you were reacting.  Your original claim that you felt I was mocking Anotherview's complicated relationship has not been supported by any of your follow-up comments to me or anyone else including this last post.  This was intended to be an apology;  but after I re-read the other posts, I had to rewrite much of this response.  I'm sorry you're so easily offended, but I cannot and will not feel any remorse for a harmless dick joke.  You're just reading way too much into it and trying to place it into a context to which it just doesn't fit.  It was about Rich and Bob, not Anotherview and Spectator.  No need to take it so personally.  I don't see you jumping to that poor monkey's defense.  Imagine how he must have felt.
Respond if you will, but I just can't see wasting anymore of my time defending a dick joke.

However, the personal shots are a different issue altogether!

Not warranted, not necessary.

HPG,

Edited for content.

-- Modified on 9/10/2003 10:07:37 AM

For me it was hilarious!

Cheers,

HPG

responses to my posts, I sincerely doubt that you intend to apologize for offending me.  In any case, I am not seeking an apology.  I just express my opinions on this sub-thread like you and others.

When I read those phrases of yours:

"You have a freakishly small penis and a 50" plasmas screen tv" with a link to a picture of very small penis.  (I have publicly stated that I am a Republican in TER boards, not sure you know about this or not.  That definitely exclude the possibility I am a democrate.),

"Your entire post was a passive aggressive attack.  I suggest you re-read it.  The difference between us is that it didn't get under my skin. ",

I just don't see you as someone that would apologize to anyone about making fun of him or others.

Mock: (Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
1 : to treat with contempt or ridicule : DERIDE
2 : to disappoint the hopes of
3 : DEFY, CHALLENGE
4 a : to imitate (as a mannerism) closely : MIMIC b : to mimic in sport or derision

You have a talent with words.  Your "joke"/"mockery" is so effective and devastating, partly because you incorporate the distinct element in AnotherView's description - "the crying of the lady" into the dialogue.  If this is simple a dick joke written about "clients discussing these intimate matters with their ATF's husband" and not intend to joke about or ridicule AnotherView's complicated relationship with that lady and her husband (BTW, I am just a member observing from the side; don't even know who AnotherView is), why placed the crying into the dialogue?

Even though I have an awkward writing style and my English vocabulary is limited, I believe my use of the word "mocking" in describing your original post is quite appropriate.

In any case, like you said, this sub-thread has dragged on long enough.  Pretty much everyone involved has his/her own said about this matter.

I am who I am, a deeply faulted person with a few strong beliefs and some unusual experiences.  Others have their own deeply held principles and opinions.  We all get to know other's personas through public posts, private mails/chats and reviews.  I have not met in person those members I mentioned in my posts.  I can only react to what I see out there just like others react to mine.