When I raised my rates last year, I simply grandfathered in my regulars. I never mentioned it to them and, honestly, I'm not even sure any them realized that I had made any changes lol.
With clients that I had seen before but didn't consider "regulars", I just made sure to let them know to check out the updates to the rates page of my website when they called to book an appointment. Simple, straightforward, no problem
of the donation request adjustment?
I have been seeing a provider for years. (Even before my break)
Her rate was xxx and when i came back noticed her rate was still xxx.
I book with her every time she visits my area and really have just been looking
at dates she is working.
I just noticed her donation went up! I will still of course see her but do you always
check the ladies donation requests when you have been seeing her for years?
How do providers let regulars know?
your thoughts if any?
I have been seeing a provider for years. (Even before my break)
Her rate was xxx and when i came back noticed her rate was still xxx.
I book with her every time she visits my area and really have just been looking
at dates she is working.
I just noticed her donation went up! I will still of course see her but do you always
check the ladies donation requests when you have been seeing her for years?
How do providers let regulars know?
your thoughts if any?
They are very different concepts. One is a change in price that's posted, another is essentially charging per service sometimes before, sometimes during. Not sure why you'd conflate the two.
Also regulars are not de jure exempt from rate changes. That's very much a personal decision as to who gets grandfathered.
So I was seeing a provider before her rates increased and was told her new rate increases did not apply to me.
Since I saw her for dates in the past and was a regular client.
I have been seeing a provider for years. (Even before my break)
Her rate was xxx and when i came back noticed her rate was still xxx.
I book with her every time she visits my area and really have just been looking
at dates she is working.
I just noticed her donation went up! I will still of course see her but do you always
check the ladies donation requests when you have been seeing her for years?
How do providers let regulars know?
your thoughts if any?
When I raised my rates last year, I simply grandfathered in my regulars. I never mentioned it to them and, honestly, I'm not even sure any them realized that I had made any changes lol.
With clients that I had seen before but didn't consider "regulars", I just made sure to let them know to check out the updates to the rates page of my website when they called to book an appointment.
Simple, straightforward, no problem
If I have seen her recently enough to even remember her rates, I expect to be grandfathered. If I can't remember her "old" rate, most likely it's been long enough and I am not "regular" enough to expect a grandfathered rate. BTW I have a very short memory where it comes to how much I paid. Anything longer than a couple of months and I don't really remember an extra fifty bucks or so.
If the lady does remember me from several months or longer ago and wishes to grandfather me, I will accept graciously
good rule of thumb gagambler.
i'd put the time parameter on a year. if i've seen her within a year i would exepct to be grandfathered. i would at least ask to be.
if i haven't seen her for over a year, obviously i am not a regular.
I hardly consider myself a regular if even a few months have gone by.
If she still wants to grandfather me, I will hardly refuse, but even a six month gap makes you hardly a regular IMO.
Wait a second, which one of us is supposed to be the BSU around here? I thought I was supposed to be the one wearing the "I am an asshole" Tshirt, not you.
lol gagamber, don't know if you saw it but i'm calling them hookers now.
you're right, i wouldn't consider myself a regular for once in a year, but i would ask the lady to grandfather me in if i saw her less than 12 months ago. unless she's seeing 8 guys a day, i'm guessing she'll remember me and decide whether or not i'm worth taking the financial loss of her rate increase for.
because with me it's grandfather or no farther.
as to my definition of a regular, i guess 3 or 4 times a year minimum, which is what i see my longest running (4 years) atf. my other atfs i have seen an average of twice a month. but i varies.
i know one lady who is fantastic but i have just never gotten around to seeing again (saw her twice a couple years ago). i have tried to connect with her a couple times last year but our schedules weren't working. i bring her up because although i wouldn't consider myself one of her regulars, she is gracious enough to grandfather me at the rate i saw her at.
so it really comes down to how much does a lady need the extra dough from her regulars versus the chance they will stop being her regulars? there are possibly some women out there that are so fantastic they can convince men to keep paying and paying more and more... but luckily i haven't found them, and i hope never to find them
once in a year? Your idea of regular and my idea of regular are vastly different.
Seeing someone once in a year is just one step above stranger. And if you are referring to someone you used to say monthly then you take a year break from, still not a regular.
Obviously this is a subject both sides have strong opinions on. And obviously there's no right answer. It is truly great that we have the freedom on both sides to raise/lower prices as we see fit and y'all have the same freedom to choose, especially when those prices are posted on our sites.
Personally, I think a woman should charge whatever she wants to, and that she doesn't "owe me" anything or any other customer for that matter. I will make me determination about whether or not I think I want to see her at that price. Now if a woman wants to reward me for either being a regular customer, or helping her get her business off the ground or simply likes my (slanted) eyes by leaving my rate alone while raising it to others, that is certainly appreciated and a fact I will take into consideration when choosing who to see on any given day, but she most certainly doesn't owe it to me.
It is a bit ironic, the BSU's seem to have a sense of entitlement about the grandfathering of rates, while by and large the assholes don't seem to expect much but good service and great looks for our money. Anyone else notice this little trend?
BTW, I will agree that if I really am a regular, once a month or more, it's unlikely that I will have looked at her website in quite sometime and it is incumbent on her to let me know about any rate increases. Most of the women I see regularly have their numbers saved on my phone and there is rarely any reason to look at their website or ads.
exactly my feelings. charge what you want. i'll patronize whom i want, in large part based on what they ask for in donations.
also their tit size.
and for that i apologize.
but i never suggested once a year = regular. you inferred that from my inartful sentence structure.
what i said and what i meant was if i saw the lady within the last year i'd expect, or at least ask, to be grandfathered at that rate.
to me, as i said elsewhere, a regular is someone i see 3 or 4 times a year. at least it is for my long time (4 year) atf, who has kept me grandfathered at her 2012 rates.
my other atfs i see at least twice a month.
you're welcome to raise your rates to anyone you want, regardless of their frequency of patronage. they are welcome to find comfort in other arms when you get too expensive. the joy of the free market.
"If I can't remember her "old" rate, most likely it's been long enough and I am not "regular" enough to expect a grandfathered rate."
He gets it! lol
Ava,
Your a class act unfortunately many others may not operate as professionally as you and prefer
to start all kinds of drama. When it is very simple and cut and dry just to inform us of the update
and then it just becomes a matter of choice to accept and continue or just move on.
15 minutes ago, a provider I hadn't seen in over 2 years ago and I had recently scheduled an appointment emailed me to make sure I knew what her new donation was.
I know each provider is different, but you have not seen her in over two years.
So I think that is the reason for her making sure you knew the new donation rates.
FG doesn't have a grasp of anything, except perhaps his own dick, and he most definitely does not have a grasp of the obvious
You never know what your talking about or what to say either.
Then you wonder why, I call you a weak old man?
Well maybe calling you a man might be a bit much. Lol
It must be something your use to doing on your dates.
I hear you actually love DATO, so shush. Now go back to your closet, Puffy.
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I am not surprised either.
You are kissing so much ass and you don't have time to read much. Lol
My views are clear and posted below.
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On which point? The one about you loving DATO? Or the one about your being in the closet? TS Sasha wants to know.
I think you need to wipe your face after kissing so much ass.
Then you will understand my comments.
You lost me with this comment and you can't be that stupid.
...You're saying that anyone who sees Sasha is gay. Keep insulting all groups - can't wait to hear you trash AA.
I don't mind taking heat for my views and have been very clear about them.
Afro Puff seems to have issues period and her business must be slow.
Just look at her comments and you can't tell me her clients enjoy their dates.
Since you 2 already know each other well, just ask her if you're grandfathered in 
XOXO,
TL
Yes, I don't think it would be at all inappropriate to send an email, and ask if you are grandfathered in, or if you will be paying the new higher rate. Communication is key, to making sure there isn't an awkward situation. Hopefully you will be grandfathered in
I have been seeing a provider for years. (Even before my break)
Her rate was xxx and when i came back noticed her rate was still xxx.
I book with her every time she visits my area and really have just been looking
at dates she is working.
I just noticed her donation went up! I will still of course see her but do you always
check the ladies donation requests when you have been seeing her for years?
How do providers let regulars know?
your thoughts if any?
Wtf are you talking about?
And in both cases they notified me when I contacted them
But I never found out until she carelessly mentioned it in casual conversation. She knows I can't afford it and I'm grandfathered in at the original rate.
To be honest, one should never expect someone to maintain their same rates over several years. All businesses raise and lower their rates as they see fit, to what the market will bear. Some businesses change their rates depending on how good a customer you are, and some treat everyone identical.
If a provider started out with lower rates to develop her business, then raised them because market conditions allow her to raise her rates, you as a client should EXPECT to pay her current rates. It is up to her to inform you directly that her new rate is X. I saw someone regularly (>20 times a year) that started at 250 five years ago, raised to 300 almost immediately, then to 350 for the last 2 years. She told me I could be grandfathered, but I always gave her the current rate immediately.
As I see it, these ladies are entitled to a salary increase just like anyone else, so why deny them what they are asking for?
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I have been seeing a provider for years. (Even before my break)
Her rate was xxx and when i came back noticed her rate was still xxx.
I book with her every time she visits my area and really have just been looking
at dates she is working.
I just noticed her donation went up! I will still of course see her but do you always
check the ladies donation requests when you have been seeing her for years?
How do providers let regulars know?
your thoughts if any?
the thing i love about you fancy is that you have the courage of your convictions.
i happen to agree with you, even though i think the others are technically right, what they are talking about is not actually upselling. but in practice it might as well be
Three hookers that bother me today on this subject...
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sorry baby you would think they would have the courage to post their objections here
maybe i'm lucky; maybe i'm a really, really good client; maybe i'm so non-descript that i fall through the cracks; but when it comes to raised rates, i have always, always been grandfathered by every woman i see on a regular basis.
including one of my atf's whom i have seen for over 4 years. she still sees me at the original 2012 rate.
tbh if someone raised their rates on me, i would stop seeing them. with all due respect to the ladies, when they raise their rates it's not like it's a cost of living adjustment of 6% annually. it's usually $100 at least, which can be anywhere from 20-30% of their initial donation.
it's hard for me to think of another industry where a working stiff gets a 30% raise, just by saying "i'm worth more now." i wish i could do that in my business!!
certainly, any woman should get what traffic will allow, free market system and all, but conversely, my loyal and steady patronage (not to mention my vocal support on these boards and in references) should be worth something as well.
i'm not begrudging anyone their right to set their price at what they see fit. more power to all of you women doing this, and i only hope that someday it won't be considered immoral and illegal, for a woman to have agency over her own body and skills.
but to my way of thinking, there is a wide wide berth of competition out their for all of you ladies, so if it were me, i would think twice about trying to squeeze another $100 out of a guy who has been my loyal customer for several sessions. he could easily say "thanks but no thanks, what's germaine st. tropez* doing this week?"
i once saw a lady who at the time was only doing fbsm for a pretty damn reasonable price. she was however incredible, full of energy and fun, and except for the main event, would do every thing you asked. i loved seeing her and told her i'll definitely see her again.
except that soon after that, she got a boob job, changed her menu to a full menu, and more than doubled her rate. which is all well and good, and she's doing a great business, she's one of the top 5 in her city, and men (and women) love her. i don't begrudge her the new rates at all (tho imo she is over the media price of her market).
the problem with her new rate, for me at least, is that she priced herself out of my budget. she has been constantly emailing, pm'ing me, even commenting on the regional boards under my comments, asking me when i'm going to see her again.
i finally had to email her, telling her that, even though she's gorgeous and great and doing well, she priced herself out of my budget. it's just the way it goes. good luck to her, she probably won't need the luck, she's doing great and is a great person. but i won't see her.
in a couple comments above, fancy8888 confuses rate raising with upselling (fancy not knowing english? imagine that!!) but i have to say that i agree 100% with her opinion of the concept, even if she mis-uses and conflates the different terms.
no, a rate raise is technically not upselling. but damn, to a guy who has given loyal patronage to a lady for several sessions, it may seem like upselling. at least it does to me.
but what do i know? i'm the customer, not the business person setting the price. if you can raise your rates and still convince the sucke-- the gentlemen to stick with you, because you are worth 30% more than you were last week, more power to you! let every person set their price. and i know for a fact there will always be gentlemen willing to pay premium dollars for the company of a lady. and tbh if i were richer i might have a totally different opinion...
naw, i'm scottish, i wouldn't.
*insert whatever hooker name you like here
time. If I am going to the dentist, starbucks, paying my phone bill, restaurant, etc. and they raise their prices, I'm certain they won't be grandfathering me in to their old prices either.
I have been seeing a provider for years. (Even before my break)
Her rate was xxx and when i came back noticed her rate was still xxx.
I book with her every time she visits my area and really have just been looking
at dates she is working.
I just noticed her donation went up! I will still of course see her but do you always
check the ladies donation requests when you have been seeing her for years?
How do providers let regulars know?
your thoughts if any?
and i'm sure, like when starbucks raises the price of their coffee way over what you want to pay and you go across the street to seattle's best, you won't mind when your loyal clients go see another provider instead.
That is always a possibility and concern, but if the price isn't that dramatic of an increase people do not mind a subtle increase in most business prices. Most ladies aren't going around increasing their rate by 1,000 dollars, they are keeping it at market level.
though i just discussed with another frequent poster on this board the fact that a lady in our market who has been in the market for a while has increased her rate by...are you sitting down? ... 50%!
she went from 4 to 6 an hour, which to me is not particularly subtle.
and i have to say that unfortunately for us clients, the difference between a 50 cent increase for a starbucks and a $100 increase for a provider is wide enough so as to be not even a legitimate comparison.
if a lady increases her rates by $25 or $50, that's one thing. but a $100 increase is usually getting up into the large percentage of her original donation.
of course i whine about it more, because i never see anyone for an hour. always a minimum of 1 1/2, if not 2. so a $100 increase means and extra $150 to $200 for me to see the same lady. therein lies the rub! (or probably, not the rub because i can't afford the increase! lol!)
I totally agree! I call "Bullshit" to grandfathering OR "grandfathered rates.
If the provider raises her rate for whatever reason SHE decides. that's the rate...
I personally don't feel hobbyist should pay the old.
Of course, that is her call! I would however pay her donation request!
I won't go down the path of comparing providers to a 2008 mocha latte but LMFAO
Is it worth talking bringing up a petty few extra dollars while possibly irritating a good client that you would like to keep seeing?
I'd say no
Unless I didn't really want to see them anyways.
as i say, if a lady needs the extra $100 from her regulars, more power to her finding another regular, because she's losing my original $500 by not grandfathering me.
Regulars is defined as truly that- see me on a regular basis... once a week/biweekly/monthly/bimonthly. If they drop off and come back a year later, I will usually drop a little for them too. Seems like good practice to me!
... so I wouldn't know if they've raised their rates. It would be incumbent on them to inform me that their rates have gone up. Then it would be up to me to decide:
i agree if she's my regular i don't look at her web site, so it would be up to her to tell me she's raising her rates on me.
but then it would be....