Too funny: I just saw a review that looked fishy. Too few words, a girl that left town a couple months ago, a description of services that no girl at that agency would provide (trust me on that), etc. So I looked at his reviews and there was a pronounced pattern that looked like he wrote just enough reviews to keep up with the days that had passed. So I loaded his data in a spreadsheet and, sure enough, he's writing just enough, and I mean only enough, reviews to keep free status. And he's been doing it for years!
 
Sure, maybe he's seeing even more girls than he's reviewing and only submits enough to stay current. But this girl's not there anymore!
 
You don't think that hurts all of us? You don't think TER could do a better job? You still don't think TER needs to improve it review screening processes? Sheesh. Wake up guys. Wait, what am I saying...wake up TER!

An invalid review will be removed, and you get 2 days VIP as a bonus.

It's been that way for years.

or maybe you're right and some monger is posting fake reviews.
Without revealing a wee bit more information, it's a toss-up.

LOL. No, she wasn't an ATF. Pretty funny though. And even if she was, she's long gone. He reviewed a ghost.

I know. Trust me, I've used it. Using it was how I discovered that TER gave bonus days for anything, much less reviews!

Every so often a newbie comes on here acting like the saviour of Erotic Review. They been going strong for 30 years, you have been here for .....6 months?  Your ideas to 'fix' the site are  shortsighted are show how naïve you are.
   
You'll tire yourself out soon.

"Prove it." Grow up.

What makes you think you deserve details? You don't. Innocent until proven guilty. You know if happens, and now I have all but proved it to myself.

No, I -- "of course" -- PMed him to give him a chance to explain how he reviewed a girl I know and who left months ago. I'll give it a couple days. He made the additional mistake of incorrectly describing the apartment, in addition to the review details that reek of fiction.
 
There's another wrinkle, though: I don't know if I even want to report it to TER. Let them figure it out. Or, better yet, let them humble themselves enough to ask for help! What do you think the chance of that are?? Not going to happen.
 
Here's a sample that could used by TER to figure out for themselves who it is. Do you see the pattern that jumped off the screen as soon as it flickered to life? Now do the math. LOL.:
 
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Git outta heah. I doubt most scammers are as blatant as this.

Yes, allll the time, and I know enough to say that from just a few months of reading reviews and, now, board posts. Yet you get all these skeptics that are aghast that this is happening, even more so that I would put it out in public. The push-back I'm getting on exposing areas where, in a vast understatement, there's room for improvement in the TER review processes make me think that, perhaps for some of them, it's a case of, "The [man] doth protest too much, methinks."
 
The TER review processes are a mess. I didn't know how it affected providers, so thanks for that insight.

"Going strong??" According to lots of posts I've read, they're a shadow of their former selves. People like to attribute the decline to everything but that which TER has control over, it's strength ... reviews!
 
And tell me, please, why would you object to somebody who wants to improve TER, whether "noob" or old-timer? That's a curiosity in and of itself.

Do you have any clue how stupid that makes you look?
Obviously not.
Grow up.

You nailed it. Allcomers presents as a passive-aggressive little shit stain. Took time to non-answer every post on here when he could have just posted the link to the allegedly suspect review.

And they were removed within a couple of days. Guess TER pays attention to some of us. Maybe it pays to only mention it or report it once, and not in the majority of our posts? I even forgot to post links to the reviews.

My dude, I fully commend and applaud your effort, but you should just say his name.

figure out for themselves who it is.   TER wants MORE reviews, not fewer reviews.  It's up to all of us to check for fake reviews and report them to get them removed..  You're doing a great job but you're way off base if you expect TER to "figure it out" or "humble themselves enough to ask for help."

...just like every other major forum on the Web. This is what I want them to see. This is what I want other users to see as being what will greatly improve the usefulness of reviews and get them to get involved in bringing it to the attention of TER. It's too easy to just say, uncle. Already in another thread there's a bit of an awakening. Just a bit.
 
I get it. I get the resignation thoughtful users like you guys have expressed in response to my threads/posts.
 
We should all want TER to save themselves from the rut they're stuck in. TER is either in such financial straits that they can only tread water or they lack imagination. I think it's the latter.

Without question, there are other explanations for the patterns, and I want to emphasize that. That's why I would not "out" him. The fake review is not as defensible. The two together made me laugh.
 
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." By themselves, the dates are not enough, but they are interesting! LOL.

either name the "flagrant" reviewer, post links to these "fake" reviews, or delete this fucking useless attention seeking thread.

TER was originally run by the owner/founder.  It quickly became too much for one person to manage.  When I started back in 2004 each local board had a local moderator.  There were rumors of girls giving Mod's freebies to gain favor...not intending to digress here.

Looks like a rocket felcher wannabe if you ask me, including posting under an alias like rocket did when he first joined TER.

Glad I am not the only one who was thinking that.

So, anyone who tries to instigate change, point out problems, and is willing to argue and defend his points "looks" like me to yall?

I’m not surprised: the angry little felcher has chimed in. I wonder whether he’ll try to get this thread removed by Admin like the one yesterday where his assholery was exposed by a number of us?

You're wrong, but I love a good metaphor. Kind of like the word "inky" is a metaphor for shadowy or stained. "DullDate" just says what it is, so it doesn't qualify.

Even you and I have had our differences, but it remains civil. What is it with all the juvenile posts? Sure it's off-putting when I say things like, "it's none of your business," and maybe I should be more careful, but still. And what really give the lack of a cogent argument away is when the resort to personal insults and name calling...THAT is pathetic.

That was anything BUT off topic. If somebody could point me to a post that takes your three paragraph summary and goes into gory detail, I'd like to see it.  
 
That they used to have local mods, even if the mods themselves weren't watched closely enough, is indicative of a forum that started out with best practices in place. Going bad when an entity swooped in and looked at it solely as a profit source is the "hedge fund" model that has fucked up a lot of good businesses from consumer point of view. This really explains a lot. Thanks.  
 
It actually gives me hope that somebody at TER with a business mind will realize that, if what I've read on this very platform is true about their decline, there are ways they can make the site more appealing again. Maybe they can never restore the glory-years, but increased profitability is, I think, a real possibility. It starts with pleasing your customers.
 
Again, thanks.

It's a case of the fingers moving faster than the brain. It would have helped -- a lot -- if I had made that clear. I think I cursorily assumed that since I was saying I knew she had left it would be clear that I knew her. That was a bit too obtuse a reference to my knowing her. And I did it again...I had to come back and edit this reply because I responded after reading fully only the first paragraph:
 
I actually don't even assume that the right people at TER are reading our posts, much less that they're in a position to do anything about it. My hope is that, if you're right about TER's current ineptitude for whatever reason, they will see they need help. And what I, and almost imperceptibly some others, are saying is that help is right in front of them: return to best practices for running an online forum. Get local mods to help. I've presented a number of ideas. If I could get a more interested audience, I know there are even better ideas that we would arrive at. But it has to start with TER. They have to see the benefit in making some changes.
   
Also, too many here just want things to stay the same for reasons that totally escape me. Those same people can be found in other threads taking TER to task for bad performance, particularly where moderating/screening is involved. It seems what ticks them off is raising issues directly and, paradoxically, offering solutions. It's not that somebody noted there are issues in the first place. They've noted the same things, most of them.
 
And finally, why all the vitriol? If I see an idea posted that I don't agree with, I say so or say nothing. It doesn't even occur to me to ascribe ulterior motives to the author, make crazy assumptions about other areas of his life, call him names, and all the other stupid stuff my raising issues -- and offering solutions -- has gotten me. I only object because it's detracting and time wasting. I mean, I assume everybody here is old enough to legally have sex with anybody whose old enough, yet they act like they're in 7th grade. LOL. WTF? SMH. Etc. And then some more LOL.

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I'm only responding to this post because it's a great example of stupid posts. Anybody who's read my posts and threads about improving TER knows that for every criticism I have offered solutions, refined those solutions based on reply posts, and otherwise would appear to any reasonable person as somebody who really wants TER to be good at the thing they say they are best at: Reviews!
 
This post is a perfect example of the sophomoric name calling, ascribing ulterior motives, making stupid assumptions, and just plain old irrelevance. I just posted about this type of thing in response to somebody who was trying to be helpful. Little did I know that waiting for me just below was a ripe example of exactly what I was talking about.
 
All you who fit in this category, why bother? Really. If you think about it, you're being about as petty and pitiably attention seeking as can be. Nobody is forcing you to read my input. On the other hand, if only in the category of "even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then," you think of a way to help TER's review processes, let us know.

LOL -- he's not even talking about K-girls.

I get your point, even if it was misplaced: this was my first mention of fake reviews as a subject. And even here, it was mostly to laugh about how obvious it seemed to me.
 
I should add that I get your point, but I don't take it. If something seems worth fighting for and the solution is tried and true (local mods), shout it from the fucking mountain top every chance you get until you get the attention of the people who can make the change. Force the issue, if you can.  
 
Once I'm convinced there are just not enough users who actually care about TER's quality, I'll stop. But while the chance exists that there're users out there who rarely logon to the discussion boards who might see it and provide useful ideas for action, I'll keep bringing it up, even if on a less frequent basis (it sounds like you're looking forward to that day...I'll send you a PM announcement).
 
I like what TER was meant to be and what, according to members recalling from almost two decades ago have said, TER used to be.

English is hard.

I just wanted someone to read about how I made this provider cum harder and more times than she ever had and that she definitely wasn’t acting! And then she gave me my money back! As I walked out the door, a unicorn ran up to me and asked me if I needed a lift and then told me the winning lotto numbers while taking me to my car! It was a great day!

I did NOT ask anyone from TER staff or anyone else to remove that thread, or any other thread ever. The only thing I did was send some pms to the op of that thread asking him to at least tell the whole story.

Oops, that came out wrong. The first sentence was meant for you, the rest for dinky and bad date. I hope you figured that out. LOL.

so we can read his reviews, I will add that there are hundreds of guys with a similar pattern of reviews.  Their budget allows for two or three sessions a month, and that gets them VIP status if they review every provider they see, but its a by-product of their hobby budget level, nothing more.  

making fun of their usernames?  On other boards, they would use this to take a poll on which poster here has the weakest posting "game."  You don't want to win that one.  

I don't mind well-intentioned criticism. But c'mon, it was a writing mistake. You make it sound like I did something wrong, lol.

You have to wonder if he ever reads anything before he posts.  Nobody will ever make a fool out of him.  He beats them to it.  Lol

Don't be silly. The problem report function will work for the issues created by the volunteer moderators just as well as they currently do for other issues.  

with respect to board moderators, which was okay while they were still young and growing.   Once they got big enough they got rid of the volunteers and went to an entirely paid staff, which gives them uniformity in the  standards and control over the content of what the mods can and cannot do.  Going back to volunteer mods, especially for reviews, is a disaster waiting to happen unless the system is set up in a way to prevent abuse.  Otherwise, reviewers should trust the professionals and when we think they need help, send a problem report.  

"If something seems worth fighting for and the solution is tried and true (local mods), shout it from the fucking mountain top every chance you get until you get the attention of the people who can make the change."

That's just CDL displaying his ignorance, and it's not the first time he's said it and not the first time he's displayed his ignorance.  Screening and approving reviews has always been the purview of TER Admin & Staff.  Having credible reviews is the lifeblood of TER.  They wouldn't entrust that to volunteer mods.

LOL!! Don't I know!

Its time to help the community CDL by leading a review writing seminar.

for owning your mistake with dignity and humor.  Others could learn from this.  Kudos.  

pretty reasonable guy, and it appears from the "like's" he is piling up that the membership here seems to agree with his comments, so maybe a little introspection and taking some of comments to heart are in order.  I'm starting to understand what your "crusade" is all about, but I can say from my own experience on these boards (well over 20,000 posts so far) that it gets annoying very quickly when posters continuing talk in the abstract without any examples.  If you want to get support for the reforms you want to make, linking examples of the things you are talking about will go a long way to accomplishing that.  

#MeToo

kudos to the three of you.

YOU could learn how to own YOUR mistakes from this.  You don't own your mistakes or admit you are wrong even though most of your posts are bullshit or outright lies.  The best you can do is a mealy-mouthed "I stand corrected."  Rarely do you say "I made a mistake" or "sorry, I was wrong."

What's wrong with "I stand corrected"?

Unless his head is so firmly planted in his ass that he couldn't read my PM, or he's just really bad at faces: he responded to my PM saying (paraphrasing), 'maybe it wasn't her, they might have switched girls on me.'
 
But his review strongly implied he'd seen her before: "Had [her] info from a while back so I text her set up a meet . ... She is always nice." [sic]
 
So, yes, despite my strong feeling to let them swim in their own shit, I'll report him to TER. But it didn't need to get to this point.
 
And while I'm at it, I'll point out some other fake reviews, for example: 'she had bolt-on C-cups' for a girl who has beautiful, soft, natural As. Well, at least she did four weeks earlier when I handled them and again a couple weeks later when another guy saw her.
 
Before anybody asks for any info on these guys, first give me a good reason why the general public needs to know and show me an example of where you've done something similar, or seen it done to positive effect. Explain to me what the purpose of that is. Some of you seem not to want to focus on the problem, but are dying to give attention to its symptoms.

Naming someone who writes a fake review will at least keep focus on that person, and fellow mongers will know to not trust those reviews.  

complaining about TER's review process; therefore, I don't need to provide any input on improvements. Nothing is perfect, so either roll with it or get off of the ride.

Everybody talks about outing users, but, wisely, none of them do. I've read countless threads and haven't seen even one case of it. Can you point to a single example of where this was done and to *positive effect*? The only time users' names are used is in bashing...and there's a whole lot of that.
 
Shouldn't the way of protecting users be to report it to TER and have them remove the reviews and, possibly, revoke the reviewers membership if they see a pattern of false reviews? What are any of us as individuals going to do about it via the boards?

As you quoted me: "why should I name names, what good would it do?"
 
* Show me an example of where this was done and it had a positive outcome.
 
* Explain to me why it shouldn't be left up to TER to deal with him after I report the details.
 
* Show me where I told you or even implied you "need to provide any input on improvements."
 
* "30% of the posts are from you"... in a thread I started. Shockingly inappropriate!! LOL. People post comments and points, I respond. And you have a problem with that? If so, maybe that's something I should have added to the attached post. "Improvement" is only a dirty word to the hopelessly entrenched.
 
* Look at the attached post. You fit paras 2 and 4.
 
NOTE: In your "Of FFS" post, I actually mostly agree with your second paragraph. Nice suggestion, with a few tweaks, of a process improvement. Keep it up.

Are there circumstances where you *would* resort to a workbook to do simple arithmetic? If so, have somebody point out to you the calculator on your phone for when the one in your head isn't powerful enough.

beginning in April 2018 due to the passing of FOSTA/SESTA legislation by Congress.  Unfortunately, the evening news is not announcing that TER is back online, and members and former users have to find out on their own or through the grapevine.  Because P4P is illegal in the US, its not something that can be discussed too bluntly in public.  The comeback looks slow and steady to me.  A few dozen of us diehards remained on the discussion boards during the time TER was blacked out in the US.  As I look to the right margin, there are twenty times as many users logged on right now than during the best days of the blackout. That's a fair increase but we still need to increase this number by tenfold to get back to the good old days pre-2018.  

Why do you want to protect a user if he is deceiving other users? That I do not get. I think you want to protect the truth and expose lies, no?  

here it is one of two things. The bad one of exposing their real identity and things like place of work, address....

"outing" means exposing their real life info. Which is a no-no.

The users I was talking about protecting are us, not him. That wasn't clear.

OK, I can see that 'outing' was too strong a word given its specific meaning on TER boards. Revealing? ID'ing? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. But I get it, whatever it is it's not outing.
 
I've reported it to TER. TER will have to make a determination. If they decide that, between the conflicting info in his review and the self-contradicting things he said the in my PM with him, that they disagree with my assessment, I don't think throwing him to the wolves is the best next step. That would be like the man found not guilty (but not necessarily innocent) is taken directly from court to the lynch-mob around the corner. LOL. Call me crazy, but this is not the most rational bunch when the mood strikes. It can look like a nuthouse that runs out of meds.
 
If TER does agree with me, then all's good, no more bad reviews from him, not even a user name to point to.
 
What am I missing?

So wouldn't you protect us by naming him? I don't get your line of thinking.

What you're missing, imo, is that by letting each monger here make a call themselves on whether they want to trust this person, given the evidence, is considered by, at least myself, a better course than letting ter ultimately decide one way or the other.
Some mongers may decide they won't trust this person. Some may decide they will. But with TER deciding you only go whichever way they choose..

"TER already tried volunteer mods WITH RESPECT TO BOARD MODERATORS . . . ."  You'll have to show me where I said they tried volunteer mods for reviews.   If your reading comprehension is failing you, maybe you should run it by someone else before you get your panties in a bunch and then try to correct me by saying the exact same thing I said.  Do you realize how stupid YOU make yourself look doing this?  I don't even have to help you look stupid anymore.  You have it covered.  An apology would be nice, but I won't hold my breath.        BP = Big Papsmear

is just delighted to have you following him around like a stray dog.  He posts and you put up your "me, too" post.  It makes you two look like Dumb and Dumber.  Bwahahahahaha

You made some good points about volunteer mods getting involved in the review process, but that got lost in your ranting rebuttal to something CDL didn’t even say.

And they never should...

After I received his PM response, I looked for the review...it was not to be found in the New Reviews search. Mind you, **this was before I submitted my Problem Report.** I had the PM so I could use his user name to search for his reviews. Approached that way, the review still exists in the girl's profile. My guess is that he put in his own Problem Report to have it deleted and, for whatever reason, it only disappeared from the search list, but not from the profile.  
 
Why would this be part of TER's procedure? This makes no sense to me.

I think that allcomer's major complaint is about accuracy of reviews and weeding out fake reviews. There is another problem with volunteers screening review submissions before they are posted.  
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I suppose that TER employees operate under some form of confidentiality. By law or by managerial oversight, they know not to match a username with a credit card payment (REAL) name for nefarious purposes. You can probably imagine other confidential information that TER strives to protect.  
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I know from experience that Reviewers sometimes include too much personal info (about their hostesses) that should not have gotten past the moderators in the first place. Made up example: "Mary is really smart, as you would expect from a Hahvahd grad student in economics. ... And she is really fit from her undergrad rowing days at Wisconsin. I was happy to let her pull my oar! ..." That (and the usual info: hair color, boobs, height, ... her ad photos ...) is more than enough to out her and should not be published.  I have submitted Problem Reports on a couple of reviews with TOO MUCH INFO! that never should have been posted in the first place.  (TER edited the reviews and removed the excess info.) Volunteer mods, without NDAs or other supervision or proof of their discretion, might take info from such submissions, request revisions so the PUBLIC never sees it, but still have the PRIVATE info for their own use ... ESPECIALLY worrisome if used locally by that volunteer mod with that local hostess.  
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Right now, I would rather trust TER employees with all of the pre-screening and let TER members submit Problem Reports on published Reviews as necessary. That would include Too Much Info as well as questions of fakeness.

Your "ignore" function works as well as your limp dick (lol).

"Going back to volunteer mods, especially for reviews, is a disaster waiting to happen unless the system is set up in a way to prevent abuse."

Just a follow up — TER informed me that the reviewer I posted about on the MD board with the fake reviews had those reviews pulled and is not longer able to leave reviews. Their support team is indeed responsive. Thumbs up to them!

really?  why even bother?  we know half the guys on here are basically shills.  get dick sucked fall in love.  lol.  

On the other hand, it's as good a reason as any to fall in love.

Haha! I don't know about the fall in love part, but I see the girls regularly, so I've got half you equation down.
 
I only check reviews when I see a new one for a girl I reviewed, especially if I started the profile (I only have 15 reviews and they're all from this year). I'm always curious to see if it agrees with mine. That's how detecting an outlier for me is so easy. But you can do that for reviews of girls you never saw, it would just take more effort.

Been there, done that, but I was a teenager at the time.    Lol

if you know you just responded to your own OP?

LOL. Thanks. I've caught the mistake before, and I knew it would get past me one day. Actually, tree view was the problem: The post I was replying to was at the bottom of the tree. The "Post Reply" button sat prominently just below it and beckoned me. Haha. It's the type of reply that isn't worth the trouble to fix. To the all-to-many guys who seem to think getting in a even a week dig IS the point of the TER boards, they would make every effort to fix it! We're all weak at times.

Thats when the social security check gets in the account... then boom use it up and post review.. ha ha
(that is sus..)

Cliff notes anyone?

1. We don't know how many "too much personal info" reviews ARE stopped by TER mods. If ONE gets through, is it 1-out-of-1 or is it 1-out-of-20? You are assuming 1-out-of-1. I am assuming that the 1 that got through is indicative of more that got stopped / edited / revised by TER mods before being posted.  I don't want a non-obligated local volunteer mod collecting private info that no one else will ever know he has secretly collected using his mod powers.
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2. If Personal Info is in the hands of a one bad actor (local volunteer mod) there is no other person to alert the Provider to the situation and potential for harm. If a review with personal info is posted for a few days, the Provider herself might see it or some Good Samaritan might alert her to the situation AND submit a Problem Report to have the info removed. The Provider can decide about other actions to take (and maybe ask for advice on TER). In the extreme: suspend / remove all of her ads for a while; ask TER to suspend her TER Profile and Reviews for a while; change her Provider name and start fresh; change departments from econ to poli sci; transfer to Columbia econ; ...
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3. "Only one TER person, a trusted person I might add, has the info ..." How did you establish the trustworthiness of this TER (volunteer review moderator) person?  How would TER Admin establish that the volunteer mod is trustworthy?

Haha. Dude's getting a lot of SS checks! He must be cashing them for his dead parents and siblings, too.

to be what I said, but it isn't.  Without that, it means going forward, not back.  Nice try, but you still made yourself look stupid . . . . and petty . . . . like usual.

Everyone needs to understand that the you are TER's number one narcist.  So looking at yourself in a mirror is a full-time job CDL.  And we all know how stupid you look every time you post.