I know I'm going to catch hell for this one, but you know what I'd like to see?  A section of TER devoted to the providers being able to rate the hobbiests....and anonymously.  Yep.  I think it'd be cool.  Why is it fair that these ladies have the most intimate parts of their bodies and performance detailed for all to see and we remain anonymous?  Why?  Cause we are paying?!  That's bullshit.  Helping women out financially in life, I don't view as a hardship.  Women deserve some breaks just for being women.  Hey, I just thank God I will never have to give birth.  One provider I saw had a rating scale for everyone she saw, and showed me where I fell on it.  See, for her, she needed to enjoy herself to want to see the guy again.  I thought that was so cool.  I don't think she should've had to roll the dice on the first encounter.  What do you think?

Its an interesting idea, but I get reminded of my shortcomings daily by the wife.  I don't need it here.  I have had providers call others on my reviewed list as a confirmation and I don't mind that at all.  If you decide to give a provider your TER handle she should be able to get a general idea of who you are and what you like based on your reviews.  If a guy has given generally bad reviews for providers and others have given good, there is probably a problem with him.  He should probably consider showering, shaving, or smiling to improve relations.

The reality is that the reviewer is the customer.  He has the right to check up on the vendor he is dealing with and see if there may be a connection (TER = Consumer Reports for the Hobbyist).  The vendor is not helpless, and like any business owner a provider can refuse service to anyone for any reason.  

Like you, I'm sure I'm going to catch hell for this.

Hey, it works for me. As long as guys are going to continue to use that BS GFE scale, then I think the ladies ought to come up with a BFE scale and judge us. Fair is fair. C'mon ladies,
go for it.....

Some of these guys deserve to see what low lives they can be

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And BTW, before you go berating the review process too much, remember, a lady who looks at this as a business (and that's what they so often remind each other, and us of, that "IT'S A BUSINESS"). where else can you get this kind of instant feedback on how you did at pleasing you client?

In a review, a client will tell a lady EXACTLY what he liked and did not like, What she can do differently OR what she ought to keep doing "till the cows come home"....

Now that I think of it, I'm going to start asking for an informal review. see what happens....

BK

Not only could you warn other providers from the jerks, but you can also tell them about the terrific encounters also!!

Why not, I pay on this board, I should have my say too!!!

Philadelphia's Tattooed Escort.

I would like to jack slap you for even saying that a woman is a business but...I cant because they are running one.  All I can say is I will always try and make that business thing a distant second consideration when it comes to dealing with them.  Peaple first business...low on the list somewhere.

Yeah, maybe it would be interesting and informative.  Yeah, I guess fair is fair.  But you gotta remember, we don't depend on providers for our income.  Providers do depend on us for theirs.  

Unless we're real creeps to be avoided, we're not going to scare any providers off, even if we're no good in bed.  Our money's still good, and this is a JOB to them.  Don't think for a minute they'd do y'all for free.

On the other hand, a client who received an unflattering review will probably not be back.  We men have such easily-bruised egos, dont we?  A provider who seems to need a "real man" and who gives low marks to the less-studly may find themselves with fewer clients.  This is basic business sense, not political-correctness.

I could see providers reviewing us (the hobbyists) based on whether we are "worth the trouble". Beyond that, it doesn't make sense to me, as we, the hobbyists, are the consumers.

-Hoot.

How could a lady review a hobbyist unless she used the name, phone number, address, physical description or TER handle to identify him?  There are obviously problems with using names, phone numbers or addresses as identifier.  There are also problems with using physical descriptions as they are usually imprecise and could easily lead to mistaken identity.

As for using TER handle as an identifier, not every client is a TER member.  Not every TER member hobbyist reveals his handle to a lady.  He can easily abandon the old one and create a new one after a while.  Staff will be hard press to double check that.

Great discretion is demanded of a high price escort.


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Personaly.........I would go for it.

Myself  I derive a great deal of my satisfaction in attempting to please the lady. I don't mind learning to be a better lover, Hell it just has to make it better the next time.

I say."Let it rip ladies, I'm man enough to take it."

Exactly, open it up TER, open it up.... Give the ladies a chance to call it like they see it.....



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I am one of the perverse few.  I am not interested in the business side of our arrangement, I just want to make the ladies as happy as I can.  This is where I derive my pleasure.  TEHO (To Each His/Her Own).

Jacksonlips,
Great idea! I've wanted that for so long! I think it's important for us to be able to make comments. Funny how the guys immediately think 'performance'! Most of my comments that come to mind right now are not even about performance, but about something they said or did.
I don't think the guys name, ID, TER handle, etc. should be posted at all. Nor should the girls..I think in order for it to (still) be effective, but to not harm anyone, why couldn't it just list the city and date? I think if the Gents looked at the Reviews and read them, he might recognize himself.
What do you all think about that?
Cuz I have something on my mind RIGHT NOW that's just screamin' to be written..

Thanks, Jackson..you're a love.

Sedona

The concept is interesting. Problem is, it's going to be difficult to implement. The only way I see that being possible is if the guy gives his TER handle. It seems to me that only  the "good" hobbyists would do that, whereas the jerks most likely would not. So it would defeat part of the initial intention.

Sedona proposes to post only city and date, not even the providers name. It seems difficult to recognize oneself with certainty. What if I take for myself the comments addressed to somebody else? I don't know.

I'm not completely sure of exactly what you're proposing here, so I don't know if I feel like tossing a little hell your way or not. LOL But here's my take on this.

1. If the 'rating' amounts to the hobbyist's handle & only describes his attitude, demeanor, hygiene, & honesty then I think it's MAYBE (only mabye)an OK idea.  That's the same sort of info generally passed when a provider provides a reference.  In that resepct it would help cut to the chase a bit.  But just as there are some guys post bogus information because they have a burr under their saddle about some gal, are we to assume that ALL providers are above something similar? Now I'm not taking a slap at the gals in general, for I'm sure that none of those that I've seen with some regularity would ever stoop so low..but there was one I knew in the past who would definitely be capable of it.  And what of the ones I saw once & didn't care to repeat with & therefore don't really know?  If the provider would also post anonymously how much value would even be placed upon it?  While there's some potential for a positive, I think the potential problems that could arise are likely of greater weight.  I doubt the system is that out of whack, so why try to fix it?

2. If both hobbyist & provider are anonymous I don't see what's to be gained by anyone.

3. Assuming you're speaking of 'rating' us in a simliar manner as we rate the gals, then I do want to offer a dissenting opinion.  I hold these ladies in high regard & I'm not without empathy for the crap they have to endure in some reviews.  Except for the ones who actually write that exaggerated smut, I think most everyone agrees.  However, the bottom line is that the reviews also are an excellent form of advertising for the gals & undoubtedly has helped the cash flow of many of them tremendously; so the bad has to be taken with the good.  But until such ratings might hold a potential benefit for me financially, I see no reason in the world for that kind of stuff to be revealed about me.  One of the things I'm paying for is discretion, which would all be thrown out the window under that proposal.  If I'm a bad client, the gals should be warned about me.  But where I might rank on a list such as you were shown is completely irrelevant to me...if want to see her again & I'm OK & she enjoyed the time then she'll see me--if I'm not she & she didn't then she won't--simple as that.  

And frankly I wonder how many of the gals might even participate in that type of rating of their clients..maybe more than I might guess. I don't know.  But would some worry about cutting their own throat, so to speak, if they wrote something with a rather low rating about an honest & decent client?  Would some potential new clients might shy away from seeing her?    

But I'm with Greywolf on this....Our reviews cum with the "good" & "bad"....So I'll stick with the tried and true "Gossip Mill" we gals indulge in. We still can talk about em, but they have no idea what's being said...Ha...Got you guys wondering now huh..?? LOL  Kiss Kiss, Robyn

Yes and no.. WE may say we can take it but can we?  Think about it.. Many of us who are in this position are here because of self-esteem issues and a lack of security. I think it would take a certain level of trust before a provider felt comfortable telling a hobbyist where he was lacking...

I am similar to you in that one of the motivators for me was being able to improve myself and I do get off on bringing the lady off.. But I imagine it would be difficult for a provider to feel comfortable giving advise and risk hurting a hobbyist, even if he asked for advise before she got to know him better...

I certainly wouldn't want it posted on the boards.  I do think however many of the ladies in previous threads have already given us advise in general terms...

1. Shower and be clean
2. Shave
3. When performing oral, be gentle and listen to the body signals. Ask how the provider wants to be orally administered to..

There are others.. None of us are the perfect lovers... We can all grow and improve. takes practice.. And I love learning.. and have an open mind.. Probably like you...

Commentary. So, I see why you've (all) responded as you have.

For example: all I ever say if someone asks me to provide a REFERENCE to them for a gentleman I've seen is pretty much the usual between Providers:
Would I see him again? Yes. (or no). They don't usually ask more than that. Sometimes they might ask 'anything I should know - quirks, dislikes, issues, areas of sensitivity, etc, etc'. It's not like we go into any details. It's really pretty funny how much it's like HR! Very little said.
And I'm not so much interested in REVIEWING them tit for tat the way WE are REVIEWED, but be allowed to offer some feedback about the visit that would be 'sticky' to otherwise mention to him.
That's why I thought if there was someplace where I could post:

City: Rancho Santa Fe/Del Mar Area
Location: Client's home
Date: January x, 2003
Length of visit: 2 hrs
First time visit, or repeat: repeat
And then leave my comments.
I would think that by that information, and what I was to say, the gentleman would know it was him, and nobody's feelings get hurt.

That's what I'm saying..but, I don't see how it could work. Might make me feel better, though..

Still love ya,
Sedona

I think I'd det tired of reading that I need to spend more time in a gym...

...reviews on clients would tend to contain information relative to consistency/reliability (no-shows, late or on time?), generosity (gratuity standard relative to session experience), and overall attitude (negotiates rates, hard to please, easy to please, etc.).

I'm a provider that always uses references from other escorts in order to screen clients, and typically, this is the information I'm looking for, i.e., how many times have you seen this person, and how many times was he a no-show, cancelled within 24 hours, late or early within 15 minutes, or on time every time.  I also like to know whether he is relatively demanding (physically), and I can prepare myself for a 15-minute session or a 50-minute session.  I like to know whether likes to talk a while first or get down to business, whether he tends to be nervous, or whether he tends to mix his appointments with dinner, if I should bring anything special along with me, etc.

There are all kinds of information which is invaluable to me in order to give the best possible experience to the client.  I want to know what he wants before he gets there, so that I can prepare for a "smoother" and less awkward first-time appointment, because I can stay a step ahead of him (I am supposed to be in the lead, after all, even if it means I'm following his lead).  Part of being a very good provider means being able to quickly and accurately "read" the client to give him exactly what he wants, and the more information I have ahead of time, the better.  

This is especially important when you have a client that tends to be more "critical" in reviews.  The more preparation I have for that client, the better my chances of pleasing him, and pleasing myself.  I don't want to do anything that client might not like, and I don't want any awkward surprises myself ("Umm, I'm really sorry, but I don't do that...."  It really sucks having to say that to a good client!

I'm all for client reviews, but I solidly believe they need to be anonymous.  As with client reviews on providers; they are best when they are honest, and there isn't any negative backlash between clients and providers when things are put on the table that person doesn't appreciate.

Just my $0.02,

BJ

So you say you want to be reviewed, just like us?  What would be the point of a review where both the SP and the client are anonymous?  Ego gratification for the client who recognizes himself?

Seriously, I really, really don't think you guys would want this.  Right now, you're imagining some kind of favourable review.  I'd urge you to go find the most awful, disrespectful review that you can find on this site, and then ask yourself if you could really handle, or want, that kind of scrutiny. It could happen to you too!

And, if I can figure out who's written a review of me even when they're "anonymous", don't you think you'd be able to figure out who's written one of you?  Do you think an SP is really going to write a scathing review of somebody, no matter how deserved?  It doesn't make good business sense!

-Anya

There is a need for this type of section at TER....

What is a BFE - Boy Friend Experience?

Boy Friend Experience(BFE):

Spend two or more hours together, have dinner or drinks, maybe a small gift, a little mutual caregiving, give a massage on occasion, being willing (if otherwise appropriate based on some good observations below) to give oral in addition to receiving it, and in general, make it a priority for the provider to have a good time in addition to the client.


Sounds like a few gems I have seen...

Kisses,
Michelle St Clair