Or something that's could be better about the community or way things are done in general in the hobby. Could be from an attitude standpoint, a physical one, or hell even a moral one (although I know that being open minded is a golden standard here).  

...They are the ones who should be thinking about how to "do better" in order to get more business.  The hobbyist has to show up on time, clean, with the right number of Benjamins and not be a total asshat.

Maybe you should have read the Self-Help Center before posting your drivel...

I agree with BP about your drivel. In what other business do customers ask how to be better customers? Do you see restaurants posting on internet sites how not to "overstay your welcome"  how to be a "better tipper" or how not to "come in at closing time and order a full meal and dessert"??? I bet you would be downright offended if your local restaurant where to do so, wouldn't you? So why all the angst on how to be a "better trick"?

People ask all the time "what is a mangina?" I think in the future I will simply link them to your OP.

Using recent and accurate photos would be a very good start.  Using photos from 10 years or 15 pounds ago isn't what I would consider honest business practice.  It's flat out "bait and switch".  

... that if a topic has been discussed in TER Land within the past 7 years, it can't be discussed again?  Is that an official Statute of Limitations, or just a rule of thumb?

I think I am on safe ground here when I say that by "drivel" he meant the very concept of us discussing how to be  "better johns" is nonsensical and ridiculous on it's very face, and certainly meets my definition of "drivel" as well.

and I will repeat what I said in my response below, "in what other business do customers discuss how to be better customers?" This is a fucking business, not Match.com sheesh

...section of TER's Instruction manual, AKA the Self-Help Center.  I didn't just dig up a seven year old post - it is TER's own reference for how hobbyists can "do better."

It appears you're not a very good Boy Scout.  You should try to "be prepared" by reading the Self-Help Center yourself.  If you familiarize yourself with all the chapters and pass a test, you could earn yourself a merit badge.

My post would have been rather meaningless if you had beaten me to the punch. lol

More specifically, respect her time and business... for example, not booking one hour and trying to keep her for 3.  

Op here. Not to start a flame war, but some of the responses here are more than a little dickish. What the hell guys? If you didn't like the topic then just move on. No need to result to personal attacks.  

You forget that the OP didn't ask for "us" (hobbyists) to discuss his question.  He specifically asked for input from providers.

... let's remember that a Good Scout is:

... none of the responses are from providers.

Well, we can demand more BBFS.  

I can say with relative certainty, that a hobbyist should never, ever, no matter what the circumstances, no matter how comfortable he feels with the provider, even on a dare, never goose the provider.

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Was an Orwellian reference post(1984) There was a post from the day before that went away.

And I immediately got the Baden Powell reference. Never said anything but glad to see someone else got it. PS - my scout master was a pedophile. Never got me thankfully but us kids knew and were scared.

but almost.  

Got it, because clearly fucking a provider is just like staying at a luxury hotel or eating at a fine restaurant (but shit if it is, let me know where you stay/dine!). Loosely I suppose they all can be considered "hospitality" and money is being exchanged, but that's where the comparison ends. I look at it more like finding the right therapist or even the right trainer. It requires a certain amount of effort from both parties to make it worthwhile even though only one person is paying.  

"... The hobbyist has to show up on time, clean, with the right number of Benjamins and not be a total asshat...."

Only if I had something to "give away". Which you would so richly deserve. LOL

And on his own time.

Even doctors who do get that up close and personal are wearing gloves, at times a mask and more. Yet we are asked to insert bare fingers in a asshole,even lick that same asshole.  

and say to himself, "wow, that's ME he is talking about, i need to change my behavior" NO ONE is going to think this applies to them, especially the asshats that it really applies to. So what we get is just another in a long line of suckup posts made by yet another mangina trying to make himself feel superior to the other johns here.

Not to mention the OP was his very first post on this board, when I want to get lectured by a newbie I'll be sure to send him a PM, if he even has VIP for that matter, in the meantime he can just STFU for all I care.

Yes, I know this is directed to the providers, yet there is a universal here as many people like to feel good about themselves in the decisions they make that lead to a positive outcome; so, there are pros and cons:

I do see your point.  

A grown man who has to be told to wash his junk if he wants it sucked is too stupid to be out in public without a leash. Subtlety will NEVER work on such a person, unless your version of subtle involves a Louisville Slugger. lol

These guys too stupid to wash their own ass are probably also the same guys that resent being called "johns"