I was just wondering how and why and who would want to experience this?  Is it easier if the lady has given vaginal birth? I for one would NEVER be able to accommodate such a request and honestly I would never even desire it.  Does one walk funny after? Do you need to take time off? Ever gotten stuck? Lol.  Please I'd really like to know what makes this special, and is it considered a fetish that there is an upsell.  No it's nothing this girl would ever consider, but I am curious what the glory is in punching a pussy?

Kisses


Your angel,


Elle Vegas

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But I dont think it is about punching a pussy It is probably more just about a fascination with pussy in general and what you can do with it. And yes I would imagine it would be much easier if you have given birth.

It just started out as innocent fingering when she asked be to go to two fingers, then three and before I knew it, my whole hand was up there.

She is into being a sub in general even likes me to smack her (Which I hate doing to her, but she says it gets her off.)

I guess there are weirder things than this.

What is the Chinese girls handle? I want to check out her reviews!

and why in the world would anyone want to have it done to them is beyond me.

Speaking from the medical side of things.. ( it is a muscle and that muscle can only be stretched so far and why would you risk doing permanent damage?)

To each his own.
I will stick with the real thing or my trusty rabbit!

Say hello to that vagina for me...bet you hear a damn echo! OTOH, I can put a fist in my mouth ha ha.

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with horses .
Never had a desire to fist a woman .  I hope I don't find one my fist would fit .  

http://arthurveterinaryclinic.blogspot.com/2009/04/artificial-insemination-in-mares.html

I believe that fits your profile. C'mon honey, let ME take you to heaven. Bwahahahahahah.

I know babies are a lot bigger than a fist and most women are in agony during birth.

So how the hell can they enjoy a whole hand in there?

I'm guessing they don't and they've probably been forced to do it.

However there are those out there that do enjoy it. You'd be surprised what some women will do for money....and equally surprised at what some won't do for cash.

And then there are those women who, regardless of a cash incentive, love doing some really freaking shit!

For some women who've been stretched to the limit, a fist is the only thing that does feel good lol. Bluck! I've never had a child vaginally, and never will. My body simply won't allow it to be born that way.

Smaller women than you have popped out babies just fine.
And the notion of stretching a pussy by giving birth? Please. Read a book. That thing is so elastic it bounces back very nicely.
You sound like the guys who worry about whether they are the lady's first appointment for the day.
Just stick to your lines. "No one over 5", just because that's the way I want it.

that do NOT BOUNCE back from giving birth honey..again, clueless. I have seen some that looked like a freakin grenade went off in that thing after having a kid, and have seen some that are just fine. Giving birth is actually the ONLY thing (with some extreme exceptions of objects) that can in fact alter the size, shape, and elasticity of a vagina. Why do you think that Vaginal Reconstruction surgery was invented? Fkin duh!

My daughter was only 5 freaking lbs. and the doctors said no way. I had to have a C section. Your body size/weight is not what determines your fkin vaginal capacity...good lord. I can't believe you even tried to pass that bs off. No shit women smaller than me physically, have had babies. They have also taken a foot up their ass! I know 80 lb. women who can take a 10 inch c*ck and I know 200 lb women, who struggle with taking 7. I think you should read the damn book, because this comes off as seriously STUPID!

Saying that every woman's vagina is capable of taking the same shit in it, is absurd, but you wouldn't know. Not all women can have babies out of that thing, not all women can take big c*cks, not all women squirt, and not all women can shoot fireworks out of their ass. There is no ONE size fits all when it comes to the female body, so get educated please. If a girl struggles to take 2 fingers, she is not going to get much further with an 8 inch c*ck.

Who is running lines here? I am not the one who started COMPLAINING about my own vagina being too small...it was fktards on this board! You also claim that a woman who fks 5 guys in a day will not be a bit looser at the end of that day? Ha, bs!!! It won't "stay" that way, but that is fkin absurd to say, it won't make a difference for that day. Do you not watch porn? Ever look at a vagina as you slide your d*ck out and see if the hole is open? Well guess what, some vaginas close back like that, and some do NOT.  When you first put your c*ck in a woman, is that not when she is the tightest? Well, if by the end of the hour you feel it loosen up, and only from YOU, what makes you think guy 5 is not going to just glide right in? Geez....







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Pics from then, and compare them to what she looked like after taking the team, HUGE difference.
Although, I still wouldn't throw her out of my bed for eating crackers.
And vaginal plasty is a multimillion dollar business now for a reason.


Just saying


Kisses


Elle Vegas

It's not my fetish. The anal fisting girls are freaks.

on a daily basis will in fact alter it forever!  Guys wonder why so many women don't want them touching us in a certain way...because they are fkin clueless about the female body! Granted, normal sex won't alter your vagina...you're either born with a big one or a small one, and just normal intercourse without the extreme, won't make a permanent change, BUT yes you can stretch the thing out to fit other things in it.

Why do women use butt plugs to stretch out their ass and relax the muscles before anal? So, the guy glides right in! If a butt plug can do that for the booty, 4 guy's c*cks can certainly stretch a vagina out for guy 5 lol. Not forever mind you, but I bet guy 5 would notice a difference had he been number 1 lol.

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I wish I could forget some of the images in my mind, from what I have seen in ER and Delivery Rooms, but that shit stays with ya. Bluck!

Like I said, I didn't like doing it, and she hasn't asked for it lately.  She seems OK with me just pulling her hair now; which I find a bit more acceptable.

She's an UTR gal; and had a very horrific upbringing which is why she wants to feel pain associated with sex.  Underneath it all, she is a very wonderful and dear person.  I've know her for nearly 20 years.

But acting like childbirth ruins a vagina is VERY misinformed.
Now, before you protest that you didn't say that, you imply it on a regular basis.
Surprising thing that you don't get jumped by a gang of MILF's. There are plenty of them out there putting out some fine ass.

Black, if you don't like squirters, that's too bad for you, YUMMY.

I didn't mean to offend you all, that's not in the WK code.

Elle, your beauty silences me.

One time at work I dropped my glass of milk on the floor and blurted out:  Nutty fudgekins!

You should have seen all the jaws dropping at once.

You are VERY naive to suggest it does not jack up some, and often. Have you ever worked or interned in labor and delivery? Have you even read up on the subject of what child birth can do in many cases? Not every woman pops out only 6-8 lb babies, dear. When you have to be cut from vagina to asshole, come back and tell me how you recover. It does if fact loosen the shit up for many women...others, not so much.

There are births that leave so much scar tissue INSIDE, the shit is actually tighter, so of course, always exceptions. Just because you have been with vaginas that are appealing to YOU, does not mean other guys feel the same. Child birth does not affect the "quality of ass" as you put it, no.

I don't "imply" shit...I flat out say it, and I am flat out saying it now that for SOME women, child birth will affect the size, shape, and tightness of your vagina regardless of how many damn kegals you do. As Nikkey pointed out, it also has to do with age and the size of your vagina to start with. I bet there are women who have had children, and are still tighter than some who have not. I guess you think we all have a size 2 vagina and no one has a 0 or a 10 lol.

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Some people have different fetishes... & this is just one of many. I don't think natural child birth has anything to do with "making it easier", as I've had 2, & gents on the larger end can be uncomfortable at times. After child birth, if you do the correct exercises (kegels), you usually snap right back to pre-giving birth size, lol. It's also dependent on WHEN a woman gives birth, as when we age, the ability for our muscles to regain their previous state is harder to achieve.

Of course it's traumatic. And it "jacks" them ALL up. It's a medical emergency. It gets stretched to the hilt and usually tears. HAPPY?

But by it's very nature, it snaps right back into shape. like most other bodily systems, it naturally has the ability to repair, rebuild and restore. Some physical therapy, training and wow. It works.

At my age, my ass should have fallen some, but....physical therapy does a body good....... and Jinni ain't complainin.

The goddam review process wouldn't hold all the information. Oh, wait, that wasn't meant for this board...Sorry.

"It’s something none of us really wants to hear, but “after childbirth, many women have looser vaginas,” says Brad Douglas, MD, an ob-gyn and Chesapeake, Virginia–based expert for JustAnswer.com. But if you’re worried about this affecting your sex life, don’t. “Yes, the vaginal tissue does expand from childbirth, but it’s very pliable.” In most cases, he says, your anatomy should return to its normal shape in the months following delivery. However, if you feel that something isn’t quite right—pressure, a continued feeling of “looseness” or pain during intercourse—it could be a sign of a “pelvic organ prolapse,” says Dr. Douglas, and it’s something you should talk to your doctor about."

Read more: Sex After Pregnancy Facts at WomansDay.com - Sex After Childbirth - Woman's Day - See more at: http://www.womansday.com/sex-relationships/sex-tips/the-truth-about-sex-after-pregnancy-91928#sthash.FU4lGf4W.dpuf


"Whether or not your vagina returns to its original size depends on a number of factors: the size of your baby, the number of children you've had, and whether you do Kegel exercises regularly. After giving birth vaginally, it's normal for the vagina to be larger than it was before, and this effect generally is more pronounced after the birth of a large baby. (Nine pounds definitely qualifies as a large baby!) This is caused by relaxation of the pelvic floor musculature. These muscles will lose their tone with each successive birth, although pelvic floor exercises known as Kegels can help you tighten them up."

http://www.babycenter.com/404_will-my-vagina-stay-stretched-out-after-delivery_1156123.bc

You're basically acting like a virgin vagina and a woman who has been with 100 guys is going to be EXACTLY the same...not the case. There are things that are changed, that do not change back, after losing your  virginity and having a child vaginally, and any doctor will tell you that. Off soap box...you don't have a vagina.


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It sounds EXACTLY like what I was trying to say.

But I did start with questioning whether YOU are really too tiny to give birth....A serious mistake as that may very well be the case, and an insult by implying you would be a "freak of nature".

I deserved every bit of the ass kicking you gave me.

Love U MEEN it!

People were all liquored up on Cristal and passing the "e" around, and thats when MrFish dropped his milk!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyZunwOCZhY

Look up videos by HotKinkyJo.  She is a woman that has a female partner stick most of her (the partner's) arm up her butt-hole.  No mirrors or camera tricks, she goes in up to her elbow.  And you can see the shape of the partners hand press againts KinkyJo's belly...from the inside.  I was amazed when I saw this.  Have to admit I think it is kinky as long as it does not hurt the girl.

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I was paid extra to let a client do it.  I couldn't go through with it after the first attempt and gave him his money back.  Needless to say I took a couple of days off afterwards :-/. It's definitely not worth it, and he didn't even get his whole first in.  Unless you have a wide vagina you will be pretty sore and won't want to work.

I had a GF years back who was pretty loose, no kids, just a big box.  I'm not small and I'm also not Johnny Homes TG.  While digitally stimulating her I slipped 2 in and she seemed to like it but it still felt loose.  So I slipped in a 3rd, then a 4th and finally slid all 5 in with my fingers pointing forward.  Not only did she not complain, she reached between her legs, grabbed my arm and pushed my hand in past my wrist.  After a few minutes I made a fist and proceeded to thrust my hand back and forth and she ripped off 5 big O's and finally begged me to stop.  I slid my hand out and just sat there amazed.  I'd never done that before nor even heard of fisting.  She loved it and though we stopped dating a month later she said I was always welcome to make a booty call.

This is the only GF I've experienced this with.  I have had 2 providers ask me for it and I have happy obliged.  It's kinda fun although my wrist got sore, can I get workers comp???

in your mouth??? you generally have a foot in it?

LOL...exactly. You don't have to have children to be loose.

But that's a bit of a cop out isn't it? I've seen two women fist each other in porn and sometimes it looks like an assault while other times it looks sexy as hell. I knew one provider who was into it but only with women. I on the other hand cannot abide the idea of a prostate massage or TUMA. But so what? As long as it's being engaged in by two consulting adults its kind of ridiculous for me to ask "what do they get out of it".  De gustibus non est disputandum.

I actually have a picture of it lol

MM

Might this be you then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIY3gkCUATs&feature=player_embedded

I would say, that looks about right but I don't pull out my mouth like she did...it just fits.

When I first saw this video I nearly hurled.   You have to be a horny mofo to screw with your head.

http://www.extremetube.com/video/head-in-pussy

Or even particularly unusual....in my experience anyway. Can't say as how that would fit into client/provider encounter as there is a base level of trust involved.  I've saw a porn video once with some guy fisting a woman...very roughly.....it made me cringe and wince. And, she didn't look like she was enjoying it much either.

But, I've been with several women who really loved it. I recall being a bit flummoxed the first time a woman asked me to fist her. But, that was a long time ago. I got the hang of of real quick-like and it was hot And apparently, or so I've been told, I have a good sized fist; not too big, not too small kinda thing. Not sure how much difference that would make...but....

I never thought of it as a fetish as much as just a preference?...a desire? None of these women had ever had children. And, no, I never "got stuck". And they did not walk funny afterwards....lol....

I LOVE when a man is open to receiving both my fists up his ass.

If you as a provider were to offer this in your vagina with the mans fist I would add more, like some do with anal fetishes.  Come join the TER BDSM Board!

Let me make it as simple as I can regarding the fascination/enjoyment of fisting.

NO. You don't have to have kids to be able to enjoy /do it.  
NO. She won't stay stretchered out.
HELL YES, she can turn around and take in a in cock after being fisted and her vaginal area can be just as tight.
It's all about the muscle control.
ESP... if you insert a cold Popsicle or ice cube inside her....to cool her off and Bam........she's a tight as bold trying to squeeze into a pinhole.

Fisting is about the feel of his knuckles massaging the walls of her vaginal area. It's a hell of a lot different  feeling than a cock.
fisting touches spots within her that not even a cock could touch and it excites her. And for some, it makes them extremely wet. And the feel of her muscles/ wetness around his hand and even up to his wrist can be very fascinating/exciting and enjoyable to a man. Just don't lose your watch up there.

She calls the shots as to how slow/hard/fast you can pump her hand inside her. It's an art and a pleasure to be enjoyed.
Not something for everyone. But surely not something to be scoffed at either.
The misconceptions most men have about fisting and the women who do it that they refuse to see are well. foolish misconceptions. Don't knock it until you try it.