The house was un-expectantly empty last night so I thought I would call for a incall escort.

Called a service in Atlantic City NJ and was told that there was a 21 year old blond available 20 minutes away.  Sounded great!

45 minutes later she calls and can't find the house (very basic directions needed) and then for the next 45 minutes and 4 phone calls later she shows up.  Yup... a 21 year old blond... she asks for money, calls service and then tells me that the money is only for her to show up and any massage or anything else is extra.

She says that she doesn't really know massage and she will only do a HJ/Condom for a tip.  Now I am a horney guy and it is late and ..... she is a 21 yearold blond so I say OK.

Well.... after she wanted to do this on the livingroom couch and not in the bedroom.... I had to put the condom on.... she would only take her top down.... and she stayed a arms length away as she slowly (in-interested) stroked.... I finally gave up and told her this was not sensual and I felt I had been ripped off.... she said call the service and complain to them.  She left and I called..... they did not pick up the phone.

I know that She got everything she wanted.... she didn't have to do anything.... I let her go after 20 minutes.... and she got her money..... WHAT SHOULD I HAVE DONE????

What she was doing was not sexy in any way.... I would rather be by myself than looking at her frowning while she ??worked??.

Was I just ripped off.... she said that the service should have told me that it was now full service (says so in their add) and was not all inclusive.

Did the girl rip me off.... or did the service??

Thanks for any suggestions...

Both....

The service, because their ad promised something not delivered.

The girl, because she KNOWS what you are expecting, and didn't deliver either. My guess is that this is her / the agencies routine.

Questions...

Why did you not check for reliable resources right here on this website, since apparently you are familiar with it? Is it that experiementation "new discovery" thing some guys post about? THen why not go with a new girl from a KNOWN reputable agancy?

And....I just gotta ask....if the house was "un expectedly empty", then doesn't that mean it could have at any time been "unexpectly" NOT empty?

You might have gotten off lucky....

Sorry to state the obvious -- but, you have been had!   Welcome to the ripped-off club.  A lot of hobbyist have been in your shoes...

To answer your question, BOTH the agency as well as the model ripped you off.   The agency's ad should have clearly stated that the fee was strictly for their introduction service, and nothing more.   The model, because she knew that there were certain expectations and failed to deliver on the goods/services.

The experience you described is "typically" called upselling. The young vixen will collect the fee JUST for showing up, and then hussle you for more money...

Not that it matters, but I would call the agency and tell them about your sentiment.  More likely than not, they will simply say tough luck.   If they have a decent reputation, they perhaps may offer up some sort of compromise.

Having said that, what can you do? I would encourage you to post a review on this young hottie on as many review boards as you can.   Don't forget to mention her agency name.  Provide the weblink, and other pertinent information. This way other folks don't get taken for the same sour ride.

Also, I would encourage you to contact the webmall where you saw the ad.  Write or talk to them about your experience.  If the webmall has a good reputation they will take appropriate action, including taking down the agency's ad.  Some webmall's firmly believe in the "TRUTH in advertising" concept and philosophy.

Sorry to hear about your predicament.  It a shame that there are folks out there who have NO business/personal ethics, morality, or integrity!

Moving forward, do you homework.  Research the agency as well as the provider on more than one review board, and draw your own conclusions.

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I think it's pure BS that any Escort Service would have any girls working for them who did not offer Full Service. At the very least, they should let you know right from the start that the gal they're sending does not do full service.

My feeling is that, unless I have time and money to burn, I stick with the well reviewed independent, and I see her at her place. I want to be able to simply walk away, the moment something doesn't feel right.

The problem is, the situation you got yourself into left no place to walk. With the "show up" fee surrendered (show-up fee - pure high-grade BS) you're pretty much committed to a "hope-for-the-best experience." I'm sure she got the HJ tip up front. She's been through this over a dozen times. She knows the client is going to be disappointed and frustrated, so she must have the money secured. Her driver is right outside, and she likely has an open cell-phone listening in. She's expecting trouble, because she brought it with her.

Agencies are far too often, the refuge of rip-offs and ladies who hate what they do.

It's foolishness. These girls chose their profession. If they'd only loosen up, let themselves have a good time, and learn to fake a good orgasm, they'd have lots of happy clients, repeat business, under-the-table-tips and rake in a million a year, while meeting many wonderful people who know how to treat a lady right.

Since she only offered topless CHJ for extra, her intention from the beginning is to get you frustrated so that she can leave early.  The agency usually don't care about what a hot 21 years old blonde does.  All they care is to collect their agency fee and a hot chick to drum up more business.

You might consider publicize the agency number and her name in this board to warn off others and get back at them. (Not sure about TER's policy on posting agency number though)

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-- Modified on 7/18/2002 12:05:47 AM

This would be a regional board issue and regional moderators have their own rules, but generally you can publish any numbers on the board that are advertised on the Web. No need to include the number, of course, if you include the link to the Web site.

In the first place you need to keep an encrypted research file of possible companions under MONSTER TRUCK TOOLS in your computer, and an updated list
of compliant young women with pouty lips who crave to do advanced hoovering. Here is a start since I feel sorry for you, and I've been inordinately lucky of late in being excessively hoovered to the point of needing fluid replacement. If these work out, send a case of Merlot to  TheLostSchlong, Washington, DC, or at least Evian. These are the best in my LIST OF WORK TO FORCE SO TO DO file:

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Exceptional reviews

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I know, it has happened to all of us, but with TER it is no longer inevitable. FYI Nena may be the elusive FOTC who will FYBO.

... I saw your ad in the ESCORT section of ______. Was that the correct area, not Message? Forces them to confront the issue. You still could get burned but they know.

I think HedoGuy should call the agency now, tell them this is being discussed on this forum, and unless there is some form of a 'rebate', their reputation will be mud.

Philly is great, many well respected providers, great Asian action. It's 45 min or so away.

AC is the pits, South Jersey not a bad place to live, but escort action soso at best. I feel your pain, but seems to me like you had enough clues to get away from this one early on.

Thanks for your observations... I tried to call the company back but since they probably saw my information on the caller ID they did not pick up.

When I called them this afternoon the same guy picked up... I explained that I was dissatified with the whole situation and this is what he said....

"you must understand that the selling of sex is illegal... when the girl got there it seemed to her that you were wanting something that was not something she could do (I should have then told him about the offer of a CHP) and she was only there for an escort purpose and she was under NO obligation for anything else"

I called another service tonight and am waiting to see what happens...... it is not listed in TER... but I used it a couple of years ago and was satisfied....

I did make up a review and will see if it gets posted.... the name of the provider was "Atlantic City SHowgirls"....

Again... Thanks....

What you experienced is not uncommon with some agencies.  There is nothing you could have done once you paid.  In the future, do not use agencies, or if you must, then attempt to negotiate BEFORE you hand over any cash.  If she won't deal, then tell her to take a walk.  Of course, if she knows where you live, it could get messy...

By the way, you called for an "outcall" not an "incall" (these terms reflect the escort's perspective).

V.

their bread and butter are the ignorant traveling gentlemen who don't frequent these places.

I never bother to confront an escort who is ripping me off. It's pointless - won't change a thing - she's already well aware of what she's doing and my only leverage for getting my money back is force, and I would never bring that against any woman.

You got burned by the girl and the service...

I had my only hobbying burn in Atlantic City. I was there for a convention, staying at the wrong hotel (Merv screwed up my original reservations), and I called every service in the yellow pages.

One service said they could send out someone matching my needs, and a half an hour later, there was a call from the lobby and then a knock at the door (so far so good). I looked through the peephole and saw an extra 30 pounds over the description, but not so bad (a 6 with a nice smile). I opened the door, and there was also a skinny blonde, about a 5, standing there. Girl #1 asks if girl #2 could come inside as opposed to waiting outside, and I said sure (little head working).

First, they used my phone (even with at least two cell phones in sight). Then, they asked me to go down the hall and get them a coke- as if I was going to leave them alone in the room. Then, they asked if they could smoke, in a non- smoking room.

Then, Girl #1 starts negotiating more money for girl #2 to join, and after the little head thinks some more, I agree to a reasonable extra. They ask me to disrobe, and girl #2 starts a frantic, hard cbj after pulling down her top, but keeps her back to me and rejects my hands anywhere. After a short time, girl #1 is down to bra and panties and a lot of tats, and says "come over here, it's time for me". As soon as I was in, she says "Ooh, I can feel you coming...faster...hurry up...". My big head told me to speed up and get them out of there, which I did. they were out of there in minutes with too much of my cash.

I later saw them in the lobby, they didn't see me, and some unavoidable evesdropping told me they lived there. Months later, I heard this hotel had been the center of a drug and prostitution ring, with the hotel owner busted among others.

After examining my bill upon checkout, I saw that the phone call they made had been way long distance for around $50, and there was another one, probably from the bathroom, for $30.

I have avoided AC since..

seriousfun

Well this time (Wednesday Night) I called Embassy escorts and asked for a girl in my area... a 29year old blonde was available and only 30 minutes away.....

It took her 20 minutes to call me back... said she was getting her hair done and would be there in 40 minutes... she took 1:10 minutes....

My luck does not seem to change much.... this girl said again... topless only (okay to touch tits) and hand/blow W/condom... only...

About 1/2 through... the offer for more for $200.00 tip... that was it.... after spending $355 for the two tries ($180 - Wed/ripoff and $175 for Thursday)..... I said no... and just accepted what was on her free menu.
Overall it was a expencive and not quite enjoyable couple of nights!

The last time I had someone over was about a year ago... and full service was about $180... What is the norm now a days... should I have just spent the $300 for the girls that are reviewed as good in my area... and just accepted that was the price to pay for excellence??

Thanks....

my reviews was submitted... still don't see them.

Service outcall = RIPOFF.

You have a computer, you have the TER url... USE IT!

Don't know about rates in NJ.  However, since the provider has to split the fee with her agency, 180 seems low.

I am a California guy (LA, SF).  If I called an agency for an outcall and the price quote is 180, I will immediately expect that as a topless/nude show up fee.  Most likely I have to pony up more for additional service.

However, there are Russian agencies in LA that provides incalls for 200.  There are also independents that will take 200 for FS outcalls.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe the agency is doing their best and the lady misleads and lies to everyone about who she is and what she is about?

Except that the service didn't pick up to take his call, implying that they were using Caller ID and screened him out.

Many services/agencies take the position that, if the girls actually perform escort services, then they can be charged by LE with pimping and pandering. Since LE typically doesn't prosecute these "escorts" for rip-offs and thefts, the agency may reason that it is better if the girls just steal from the clients. All that's lacking is that the rip-off agencies also payoff local LE's for protection.

What do you say, LE lurkers? Do you get X-gross of Krispy Kreme donuts, or maybe free handjobs from rip-off agencies? Inquiring minds want to know.

Not denying that this agency--by not picking up the phone--was at fault.  But very unfair to assume all agencies are ripoffs.  That's all we have to say.