Just saw this on one of the boards and thought I'd post:


You know I am a big loser, today I answered an ad from the BM hotline and got a hold of Angel the number given was (404)936-****. I was a little uncomfortable at first because she seemed very rude, and very cold. Then I proceed to not follow my instincts and allowed her to show me to her room. Once inside she said "Where's the money!" with her hand on her hip, so I proceeded to give her $$ and then she tells me to get undressed, as she proceeds to start up a shower, I am thinking "This could be a good thing." then the next thing I know she looks at me and says get in, so with a little hesitation I proceed, then she starts saying stuff like "You men are so cheap and stinky, all of you need a freakin shower" and she fills a cup of water up with water and throws it on me, all the more cussing me out. For a second there I was having childhood flashbacks, then she leaves the bathroom but leaves me in, so I hesitate for a minute, then decide to get out and find her, and when I did she was already down stairs just sitting in front of the television with a "What?" look on her face while her friend and her started laughing. I said.."Uh can I just get my money back and leave..sorry to bother you." She looks at me and laughs and says "I think you need to just leave and if you didn't come over here stinking I wouldn't have had to put you in the shower." So realizing I'm on her turf I get my clothes on and leave, once out the door I start to look for my keys and money, and when I go to count my money there was another $ missing from my wallet. I banged on the door for hours with no success. I think she must park around the back of the building and leave out the back door to her car..either way BEWARE!! I have had some rotten experiences but this one was warranted enough to actually post a warning...

of the little head doing all the thinking. While there are many guys out there with similar bad attitudes, I tell ya, her rude cold behavior on the phone would have been the One and Only red flag. Unless she is a Domme and she is billed as such, then there is really NOOO excuse for that behavior.

Come on guys, honestly, isn't your hard earned money and time worth much more than that? I really hate to hear of guys having bad experiences, but when it goes south, then Leave. Do not let it escalate into getting totally ripped off.

under a different name then when you get into the room show her what a baseball bat is for.

damn that is jacked up. fortunately i've never ran into somethin like that. dirty business though. sorry to hear it though, i think from the phone conversation you gotta decide if they are honest girls or not

-- Modified on 6/8/2003 7:59:51 PM

im soo glad i only see 2 girls...my heart couldnt take this nonsense from these ladies.

I was reading this and it reminded me of that old debate...incall versus outcall.

When I hobbied I was always of the position that I was VERY reluctant to do incall, for JUST this reason...you are on "her turf", you don't know who else might be there, and your recourse is fairly limited should things go badly. I only did incall once, and it was with a very well reviewed provider, whose reviews waxed eloquently about has fantastic her incall space was (and it was...) and the service she provided (also fantastic). To tell the truth, it was my best hobbying experience ever (amongst the relative few I had...perhaps a dozen or so), but based on other reviews regarding mattresses on the floor and people in the other room, I gotta say it must have been the incall exception, and not the rule. And, frankly, it would have never happened if it weren't for the fact that A) I was out of town for an extended trip and B) I was staying with a relative versus in my own hotel room.

You guys gotta explain this one to me. I understand why you can't do outcall to your home if you are married or living with someone...only a fool would do that (not that some of you...oh, never mind...), but why do you risk what happened to this guy versus doing outcall to a Motel 6 or whatever? Someone recently posted on the board that they ONLY do incall...the opposite of my only outcall policy. Why? What is the advantage on incall that out weigh the risks? (Bad environment...safety..."her turf"...etc.)

after ~15 yrs of (on/off) hobbying, i only did my first _INCALL_ last month, and then only to a TER-reputable independent who had setup shop in a corporate/business-grade suburban hotel which she rented by the month -- to me, all the right indications that she has self-respect, runs a smart operation and has regard for her clientele.

of course being single i don't need to incall, just prefer the home turf advantage. must confess i don't understand the vehemently "incall ONLY" mindset. don't the statistics show that the majority of LE arrests take place at incalls?


and without going into too much details, let's just say i have means of detecting an undercover girl stepping into "my domain"







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-- Modified on 6/9/2003 7:47:45 AM

...but your post reads like you might have "incall" and "outcall" confused...

Incall = you go to her..where ever that is

Outcall = she comes to you...where ever that is

At least as best I understood it...

You raise a good point about most arrest being "incall"... meaning you go to meet her. I mean, that is like SO obvious...LE can't set up a sting at YOUR place, or even on your rented turf (like a hotel room). And it is REALLY, REALLY unlikely that female LE is going to go into "your turf" alone...

So...all that to say that we seem to be on the same page...OUTCALL (again, she comes to you) is the way to go...

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I cannot speak for all the gals, but my preference is for the client to come to me, on my home turf. I can control who comes and goes. There have been times, when I have gone to a client's location, and have been scared out of my wits, when things looked out of place in his room (mind you, when I didn't see anyone popping out of the bathroom or from behind a corner, I calmed down lol), and there was a part of me that wanted to turn around and leave. Thankfully, things have worked out

Mel



-- Modified on 6/9/2003 8:13:25 AM

While I totally understand the guys point of view and wanting to feel safe, I usually only do incall and reserve outcall for gentlemen that I've met before and feel safe going to their homes. I feel safer in my environment because I never know who's lurking in the next room if I go to someones home - just like Honda's situation but at least he's a man and can probably defend himself where I'm a petite thing and would be overpowered by 2 guys.

My advice - since the guys and girls are in the same situation of not trusting a new person - is guys do your research and only see reputable providers and if they sound bitchy on the phone don't see them. If they can't be nice and polite on the phone then they have no respect for you in the first place. And advice to the girls is check out every new client you see, so that everyone is comfortable on a first meeting whether it's incall or outcall and that way nobody has a bad time or gets into any trouble.

Normally I go for the more voluptous type but that cute school girl outfit and smile almost made me rethink this whole "I'm-married-now-my-hobbying-days-are-over" policy thing.

Next you'll tell me that you really need "daddy" to give you a spanking...and I'll just die right here and now...

I tell ya, had I known it would be 6+ weeks without sex, I might not have decided to have kids after all....

Reelurking to restart that old debate...incall vs. outcall

Not long ago we had a guy by the name of Rick Chance that was killed on a out call in a local hotel.  But what scares many of us even more is that he and the girl were caught on vedio tape in the lobby and at the check-in desk.  Also almost all better hotels will make you run through a credit card even if you are paying cash.  I have known several cases where an item has shown up on a bill by mistake but the record can be dangerous.
   Also I have only had two cases of shall we say cash and dash with in/call where services provided were not what was claimed, and in both case I ask for and got part of my money back, but with the few attempts at out/call the number was much higher and no way to get money back.  Granted that was before TER.
  But in Phoenix we are working a soluation.

SlowStart

I agree - you are a cutie!  Next time I'm in Phoenix, I'll be sure to hook up with you.

...that every time you attempted an outcall (girl comes to you), you were robbed?

"but with the few attempts at out/call the number was much higher and no way to get money back."

Also...has does someone "cash and dash" out of your own place? We had this debate before as well, but I will say again no woman **I** have ever met would get past my front door with my money. She'd have to PROVE to me she both A) Wanted my money really badly, versus finding another (easier) mark, and B) that she could kick my ass...

Of course, if she were armed, all bets would be off...but she'd also be hearing from the police in short order as well...

Oh my god!! How are you surviving? Isn't that what we ladies are for to take the edge off until your loving wife is ready to please you again? Who said you had to be the martyr in your relationship? Anyway, your a good man for sticking it out.

As for the spanking....hmmmm...I always love a good spanking and need a special man to give it to me You'll have to decide if I'm naughty or nice

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I always love meeting new people