Hey there. I know the feeling...I was a "newbie" once as well.
I spent MONTHS thinking about taking the leap before I actually did, because I had lots of questions in my mind, as you do.
My advice is to spend a good deal of time here reading the posts. It will give you a good idea of what to expect, what not to expect and some insight into the "hobby".
Second, I advise you pick a handful of women, maybe a half dozen, that appeal to you for whatever reason (presumably physically) and add them to your "favorites". Then, wait a few weeks (or even a couple months) and watch as their reviews get posted. Read the reviews, set your expectations accordingly, and discern which lady you think will really be best for you.
Then, make a date with HER. Flex your schedule to hers if possible.
All this will help make sure that your first experience is a pleasurable one. Sure, it will take some patience, but you will have a better time AND you won't have to endure an expensive learning curve (because you will have spent your learning curve HERE, for free, versus OUT THERE, at $250/hr.)
Insofar as direct answers to your question:
1) At SOME point you will have to, so, if/when she asks, there is no reason to be coy about it. All this will do is piss her off, and give her concerns that you are being evasive because you are LE. This is the LAST thing you want...even if she agrees to see you afterward. File this under "expensive learning curve".
2) For essentially the same reasons as number 1, you should use whatever phone that you will be using for "hobbying" going forward, that is comfortable for you. Most escorts will require that they be able to call YOU to verify at somepoint, so you might as well establish up front where that is going to be. I presume married guys set up there dates from their office (being single, I can use my home phone).
There are some here who will recommend only using a cell phone, etc. If you want to spend THAT much time finding an escort whose screening is THAT loose (meaning she isn't going to EVENTUALLY want to verify employment / identity via a land line phone) then go ahead. Personally, I think that is only of value if you are going to be doing SO MUCH hobbying that you have less concerns about quality than quantity (remember I am recommending you pick the GIRL first to ensure a postive experience, then flex to HER particular requirements), and / or if you REALLY have some important self interest to protect (like you plan on running for polictal office or something). Forget about the payphone - no one will ever set a date with you if they can determine you are calling from a payphone.
3) Depends...if you CAN leave a number that you can be called back at without concern, then do so, with SPECIFIC instructions as to when it is safe. If you can't at that moement, then don't.
Actually, response to items 2) & 3), I recommend you conduct as much of the transaction as you can via email. Most escorts will do everything via email up until the point where they require verification. This avoids phone tag, worrying about the phone ringing at the wrong time, etc. She will let you know when she needs to speak with you (often as not it will be the same day, prior to when she comes to see you). This way, you can be prepared.
4) I have little to no idea. Clearly, if you are married, they is the way you will more than likely go (unless you want to bother with the financial risk and expense of a hotel room...what if she doesn't show, how to you explain credit card line item to wife, etc.). I don't do incall as a rule, but I am not married. My recommendation is again read SEVERAL reviews for SEVERAL ladies that you are investigating to get a feel for the circumstances for their incall environment. As I posted, my ONE incall experience was AMAZING...but I knew it would be because every guy who posted praised both the girl and her lavish apartment.
5) No. Personally, I'd hang up on any guy who called me doing that if I where an ASP. And you don't want your first experience to have such a distasteful start. Research a girl whose fee you are comfortable with. Don't negotiate.
6) If you think it is appropriate. As a rule, I don't tip independents, because I feel they should charge whatever they are comfortable with (nobody tips me in MY business...). I DO tip agency girls because they don't get to set their prices, and they only get about 60% of the fee you pay. I did once tip an independent...that amazing incall gal, because I was there for 90 minutes, and because she really gave her all. FI you have a great time and feel tipping is justified, then do what you like. If a girl presses you in advance regarding tipping, I would take that as a BAD SIGN (I will NEVER see a girl who solicts tips on her webpage...)
7) She will avoid the legal problem for you, if you do your reasearch. For heaven sake don't go to see an unreviewed provider until you are pretty experienced. Othewise, you probably WILL get pinched, just because you won't know any better. If you see a gal with plenty reviews, then you will know she is not LE. Everything else, she will take care of.
I know this was long winded, but I can empathize with where you are right now. I was once there as well.
I hope this all helps...
-- Modified on 7/7/2002 11:53:27 AM
Hi:
I don't have any experience with an escort.
I have following few questions..
1) Should I give my real name when I call?
2) Should I call from pay phone or private phone?
3) If person is not there, should I leave a message?
4) How safe is Incall services?
5) Should I negotiate the rate?
6) Should I give the tip?
7) How can I avoid the legal problem?
Thanks.
1) There is no need to worry about giving your real name to a well reviewed provider. I typically only give my first name anyway and the girls I've met don't seem to care what my name is. Different ladies have different screening methods. Some require a work number, and in that case, your real name. That way they can check to see if you are who you say you are and not LE (Law Enforcement) or a JERK (John Expecting to Rob or Kill) Some guys worry about giving out thier real name. I don't see the risk as being very high at all.
2) You can use whatever phone you'd like, unless you have an SO (Significant Other - wife or girl friend) whom you don't want to be discovered by. I can't forsee any situation where LE would be interested in your phone records, but a wife certainly might. In that case, use a pay phone, unless you're certain your SO will never see your home or cell phone record.
3) If the provider has published her phone number in an ad and has voice mail set up, by all means, leave a message. Many providers don't set up appointments any other way. They want to be able to call you back. This offers some additional bit of assurance that you're not LE or a JERK trying to hide thier identity.
4) I've always felt that incall service is far more safe than outcall service. If a provider is well reviewed, that is she has three or more reviews spread over 3 or 4 months, with good ratings and decent description of the service she provides, her incall service is most likely, completely safe.
5) Never negotiate the rate. It's rude and unprofessional to try and bargain against a ladies worth. This business is too personal in the nature of the services provided. You're not at a swap meet. Trying to negotiate the rate is a sure way to offend the lady, start off on the wrong foot and end up with a lousy, or less than steller session.
6) Tipping is not always required, particularly when seeing an independent. She has set her own rates, the money is hers and she expects to get what she's aske for. In the case of an agency girl, tipping is more important since she is sharing the fee with the agency, her driver and whoever else. I alway tip if I've enjoyed the service. 20 to 100 is appropriate according to your level of appreciation.
7) Relying on TER reviews is the A-#1 method for avoiding the law. You're not going to have any problems when seeing a well reviewed provider with a good reputation.
Hey there. I know the feeling...I was a "newbie" once as well.
I spent MONTHS thinking about taking the leap before I actually did, because I had lots of questions in my mind, as you do.
My advice is to spend a good deal of time here reading the posts. It will give you a good idea of what to expect, what not to expect and some insight into the "hobby".
Second, I advise you pick a handful of women, maybe a half dozen, that appeal to you for whatever reason (presumably physically) and add them to your "favorites". Then, wait a few weeks (or even a couple months) and watch as their reviews get posted. Read the reviews, set your expectations accordingly, and discern which lady you think will really be best for you.
Then, make a date with HER. Flex your schedule to hers if possible.
All this will help make sure that your first experience is a pleasurable one. Sure, it will take some patience, but you will have a better time AND you won't have to endure an expensive learning curve (because you will have spent your learning curve HERE, for free, versus OUT THERE, at $250/hr.)
Insofar as direct answers to your question:
1) At SOME point you will have to, so, if/when she asks, there is no reason to be coy about it. All this will do is piss her off, and give her concerns that you are being evasive because you are LE. This is the LAST thing you want...even if she agrees to see you afterward. File this under "expensive learning curve".
2) For essentially the same reasons as number 1, you should use whatever phone that you will be using for "hobbying" going forward, that is comfortable for you. Most escorts will require that they be able to call YOU to verify at somepoint, so you might as well establish up front where that is going to be. I presume married guys set up there dates from their office (being single, I can use my home phone).
There are some here who will recommend only using a cell phone, etc. If you want to spend THAT much time finding an escort whose screening is THAT loose (meaning she isn't going to EVENTUALLY want to verify employment / identity via a land line phone) then go ahead. Personally, I think that is only of value if you are going to be doing SO MUCH hobbying that you have less concerns about quality than quantity (remember I am recommending you pick the GIRL first to ensure a postive experience, then flex to HER particular requirements), and / or if you REALLY have some important self interest to protect (like you plan on running for polictal office or something). Forget about the payphone - no one will ever set a date with you if they can determine you are calling from a payphone.
3) Depends...if you CAN leave a number that you can be called back at without concern, then do so, with SPECIFIC instructions as to when it is safe. If you can't at that moement, then don't.
Actually, response to items 2) & 3), I recommend you conduct as much of the transaction as you can via email. Most escorts will do everything via email up until the point where they require verification. This avoids phone tag, worrying about the phone ringing at the wrong time, etc. She will let you know when she needs to speak with you (often as not it will be the same day, prior to when she comes to see you). This way, you can be prepared.
4) I have little to no idea. Clearly, if you are married, they is the way you will more than likely go (unless you want to bother with the financial risk and expense of a hotel room...what if she doesn't show, how to you explain credit card line item to wife, etc.). I don't do incall as a rule, but I am not married. My recommendation is again read SEVERAL reviews for SEVERAL ladies that you are investigating to get a feel for the circumstances for their incall environment. As I posted, my ONE incall experience was AMAZING...but I knew it would be because every guy who posted praised both the girl and her lavish apartment.
5) No. Personally, I'd hang up on any guy who called me doing that if I where an ASP. And you don't want your first experience to have such a distasteful start. Research a girl whose fee you are comfortable with. Don't negotiate.
6) If you think it is appropriate. As a rule, I don't tip independents, because I feel they should charge whatever they are comfortable with (nobody tips me in MY business...). I DO tip agency girls because they don't get to set their prices, and they only get about 60% of the fee you pay. I did once tip an independent...that amazing incall gal, because I was there for 90 minutes, and because she really gave her all. FI you have a great time and feel tipping is justified, then do what you like. If a girl presses you in advance regarding tipping, I would take that as a BAD SIGN (I will NEVER see a girl who solicts tips on her webpage...)
7) She will avoid the legal problem for you, if you do your reasearch. For heaven sake don't go to see an unreviewed provider until you are pretty experienced. Othewise, you probably WILL get pinched, just because you won't know any better. If you see a gal with plenty reviews, then you will know she is not LE. Everything else, she will take care of.
I know this was long winded, but I can empathize with where you are right now. I was once there as well.
I hope this all helps...
-- Modified on 7/7/2002 11:53:27 AM
Thanks for your detailed answers.
I have few more questions..
1) Should I pay cash or credit card? Should I pay before or after?
2) Is it possible that she will not spent time as promised? what should I do in that case?
Once again, thanks.
1) I've never had to do that, but everyone's style and experiences are different; 2) Whatever phone is comfortable to you and not discoverable by someone that you want to keep this secret from; 3) You will often have to leave a message if you want to get an appointment; 4) Incall is safer than outcall because of TER reviews (as noted) and the fact that you can walk away if the person is different than represented; 5) No; 6) Tip if you want to--in my experience, it is often not necessary--others have argued that agency ladies should be tipped because they receive less of the take, but, IMHO, this is in exchange for the service they get (someone who schedules and advertises for them)--it's there choice if they do that and the cost doesn't need to be passed on to me; 7) This is too complicated and multifactorial to answer quickly.
I assume thirsty will want to link to this thread from the Newbie Discussion board. It would have been ideal if you posted there.
giving your real name, then do not give your home phone no. It is very easy to use a reverse directory to find out your name. If the name does not match the one you gave the provider, she will not see you.
