from one of my trolls. First of all, TER does not allow multiple accounts, but they do allow you to change your username from time to time and aliases every six months as needed to keep your anonymity. I tried to explain this to you before, but as the most paranoid lurker here, you didn't understand the process. If you look at the top posters list on this board, you will see that I have been a member since 2008, but CDL has neither reviews nor posts prior to the fall of 2015. Is it your contention that I had no reviews and no posts for 7 years on TER. That doesn't sound like something I would do, does it? Similar to YOUR backstory, it was using the same handle for reviews of indies that I used for posting that caused me to change my handle completely, but its the same continuous account.
If you know how to do a topic search on this or the Kgirl board, you will be able to read an explanation of my scoring system, which is the most consistent of anyone here. If you think I have any fake reviews, pick any girl that I have reviewed that you have seen, too, and then ask me a personal question about her that only someone who has seen her would know. If you had any reviews, I would do the same for you. I could link it for you, but you're not worth it. You really should read it, because then you will see what a fool you are for posting what you did.
One thing most veterans will tell you is that it's always the guys writing fake reviews that accuse others of fake reviews. If you go back on the Kgirl discussion board beginning in 2015, you find that my information is always spot on about any girl being discussed, as verified by others who had also seen her. It's not hard to get to 400 reviews over a seven or eight year period when you are seeing three girls a week, so you want to say it's fake reviews when, in reality, you just don't have the budget to see more than you do. Go to the top reviewers list and you will see many names that have far more reviews than I do. Meanwhile, taking your claim of 72 reviews at face value, spread over 14 years is not even one girl a month, and here you are, trolling a lot of people here and putting your general lack of knowledge on full display when you are really just a marginal monger, at best. There are many guys who have seen hundreds of Kgirls and have the reviews to back it up. Check the Kgirl board and you will meet some of them. You just don't know much about P4P, probably due to your very low volume.
I mean girls that are 10/10 and nearly perfect.
I can pay 5-10k an hour. I feel like most everything out there is 7 or 8/10s at the best.
Is the only solution to pick a pornstar and FMTY?
Has any one had success propositioning to a hot civvie in the US?
Unless you're a member of a secret key club I've never heard of, this is the closest you're going to find to a reliable source. But experience says the amount you pay isn't going to be any guarantee of a great time.
"Propositioning to a hot civvie in the US?" Excuse me? Are you suggesting that you ask a civvie if she'd have sex with you for money? No, I haven't done it and I wouldn't without wearing a bullet-proof vest.
Sure, our resident Queen gets many 10/10 reviews.
up t a very hot civvie girl and said, "I want to get fucked. How much?" She said, "$5000." He hands her the $5000 and she turns around and starts to walk away. He said, "Wait a minute, I WANT to get fucked!!!" She said, "Again?"
I know of one in Atlanta that's been around for ages. Based on their website, the ladies are all classy model material and head-turning arm candy. Their hourly rates are four figures with a multi-hour minimum. I've never used them due to a lack of affordability, so I can't list or recommend them. Perhaps you should search for such an agency in your local area. Good luck.
There are a few on TER. However, if you really want insurance, you need to go beyond reviews. You need to send messages to some of the reviewers. And, while money isn’t always the answer, there’s a range where your options increase. You’re highly unlikely to find one $600 or less. $700 opens some doors. But in my experience if they are true 10/10 many increase their rates because they are getting so many requests. I find $800+ is that sweet spot. But to the point of others, that doesn’t mean $1500 is better than $800.
As for asking a civi, that’s a long-shot. Unless she hints at it, I would not put my energy there. There are some UTRs out there. The only way I have found them is through a booker or agency. If they trust you as a client, they may share these options with you. But that doesn’t mean they are 10/10.
is to signal there is nothing in the body of the message, only the headline, so don't bother to open it.
It's just a courtesy to the reader.
It's a waste of three bytes. If you're in a thread there is nothing to open. Besides bandwidth is cheap and connections are fast. It's a relic from the past.
Before TER switched to the beta version of this site, readers could only see the headline and had to click the headline to see the content of each post. As Nicki said, "eom" was a courtesy to the readers to tell them don't bother clicking to open the post, there is nothing inside. Now that the content is visible as well as the headline, there is no practical purpose to using "eom" anymore.
...and didn't much care for the newer version but got used to it obviously. I can't recall what the old one was like now, lol.
to mean, depending on the conversation/posts, "nuff said"!
No need to reply or nothing to add!
Yeah, End Of Message = I'm done!
Here's one: datebellabanks.com I don't know her, she's not on here, she has no reviews -- starts at $3200/hr. She's on X
I don’t know her? She has no reviews? But hey, nice pictures and she charges a lot, so it must be true? My man. Please spend $3200 and let us know how that all works out.
The kind of rates that even out to all other high end models at 6hours
there are a ton of UTR services that operate on WhatsApp and have legitimate fashion models from between 1500-4k an hour
Ive seen a few models in LA
In fact, take a look at any model on IG and if you see a lot of travel with luxury purses they definitely provide
Links for UTR girls? Really? On a public board?
I think be missed the memo on what UTR means lol.
Subject to personal opinion.
Lol. That's great.
What does a 10/10 experience mean to you? There are tons of girls for 5k will do whatever you ask.
For that much, how long? How many times are you having sex? Type of sex? COF, CIM, Swallow? Anal? Bare?
Kinks?
I recommend you curate what your actual expectations are, then find a girl you think is super hot. Tell your fantasy and have her name a price. You will be much more satisfied that way. Instead of just paying and then not getting what you want.
most girls will not discuss specific sexual activities with new customers. Once you are past the first meeting and they know you are a legit customer and no a LEO, they are much more forthcoming. This has been with case for many years and is not likely to change UNLESS you are willing to give them every bit of personal screening information they may think they need, including employment verification, which is a definite BOHICA situation.
The work-around is to only see girls that are reviewed on TER and ask them during the initial contact if their TER profile is completely up to date. if they want clarification, I will ask if there is anything stated in the profile that no longer applies to them.
The girls you are talking about money isn’t the issue. It’s your status and power. Who you know and the experiences you can provide.
Yeah but I just want sex and I'm willing to pay a lot. I don't want to bring someone around with me.
Looks like another time waster / troll post..
Some guys claiming to be virgins and want their cherry popped by hooker.. Now this guy who is acting like he has a WOLF OF WALL STREET money.. Another troll, I say...
The guys who run with the crowd that can pay 5-10K an hour are most likely not asking for this kind of advice on fuckboard. They probably have people in their inner circle bring them what they need. All they have to do is hint.. Sometimes not even that..
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5-10k an hour really is not much to some people
Sure.. I get it, and thats's besides the point really. . There are plenty of billionaires who will piss off money. Some will do it for bragging rights alone..
They, for sure, aren't hanging around here anyway.
You beat me to the punch. If you have that much money you are not going to be asking questions on the freakin TER message board about where to find the really high end escorts. Does this guy also need directions to Rodeo drive and the best place to park his Lamborghini? Outdoor dining should be nice at the 208 today. LOL
In LA there are plenty of girls in the 9-9.5 range on looks who only charge $600-800, and some who charge less! The trick for me is finding one who also performs in that range! There are plenty in the $800-$1500 range who are 9.5 -10 in looks, but performance is still a crapshoot. Then there are the gems! I once came across a budding Vixen girl who I banged regularly for less than $400! She was skilled too! If you use TER wisely, you can get a boatload of great sessions at $1500 or less in LA! If I had one mediocre session at $5000, I’d be ready to kill myself!
I'm in LA too and find $600 is super difficult. Not counting kgirls, there is one agency that seems to have few in this range. But they're more North Hollywood/Glendale area. And the better performers seem to be 36-45 range. Not bad looking for their age, but probably not what I would consider 10s. There are a couple of Brazalians that get close to this, though English is just okay and looks and performace seem to be 8-9. Some European UTRs that are similar. There are a handful of ladies that are 45+ who may have been model hot when they were younger. Great lookinjg for their age, and performace gets closer to the 9-10 range. But no way they are 10s now. I think some of these options are great lol. But for some dude who is saying money isn't an object and he wants a 10/10, I wouldn't recommend any of these ladies. Even though $700 gets closer, I probably still wouldn't recommend them either. I really think you need to hit $800+ to find the real 10/10 ladies.
Among newer hobbyists that the review scores for appearance and performance are somehow related. In reality, they are two different judgments as originally intended by TER. I have seen many providers in their 40's and 50's who may not be "Once in a Lifetime" looks but can shit all over the younger providers when it comes to performance. You don't work in this industry for 15-20 years and get WORSE at sex.
This is an example of age bias which is common in less-experienced mongers. Your instincts tell you to link appearance and performance together, and so your reviews, once you start writing them, if ever, will be of little value to others who view these two scores more objectively than you do. I have had many sessions with girls who were a 7 for appearance but hit it out of the park on performance for a 10, and they are not ONLY the older ladies.
If you're going to add your senseless thoughts, don't bother. You're AGAIN making assumptions about me when you really don't know shit. You're a troll and you're so hung up on the fact that I use an alias that doesn't have reviews. You literally can't let it go. Meanwhile, all you do is fake review kgirls. You copy and paste the reviews and edit them. I have no reason to believe you have seen any of them. And then you talk about the non kgirls you claim to have seen and reviewed with another account. By your standards, those do not count. And since we are not counting what we cannot see, last time you fake reviewed kgirls was December 2022, so you're also out of the game for 2 1/2 years. No reason to believe what you haven't proved when that's your argument against me.
But I have been seeing escorts since the early 2000s. My first review on TER was in 2012. I have exactly 72 reviews on TER. Hard to get to 400 when I only review ladies I actually see. So while you might refuse to give me credit because you're so narrow minded, facts are facts. I know what I know, and don't need your approval to make it any truer than it is.
First off, we all know the numbers on TER are in the eye of the beholder. One person's 10 isn't always anothers. We also know that not all reviews are honest. And, we also know that despite TER's intentions, looks can influence how we rate performance, and performance can influence how we rate looks. I have see plenty of reviews where someone who is a great performer over and over again is getting rated higher than they should in looks. This most often happens in the case of older/legend escorts. On the flip side, I have seen escorts who's performace should probably be in the 5-7 range, but they keep getting 7-8 range because they are hot af.
Oh and these kgirls that you see, the ones you give out 8, 9, and 10s to like candy. I mean holly fuck. You rarely give out a 7. And, out of 400 reviews, never, not once, do you give out a 6. I can tell you didn't want the kgirl agency to get mad at you, or maybe figure out you were fake reviewing their ladies. Tell me about bias in how I give out reviews, or accoring to you WOULD if I really was, and meanwhile you apparently have better luck with 400 kgirls than anyone else on this planet.
It's funny how you talk all experienced, but between your copy and paste reviews and the garbage that comes out of your mouth, it's quite obvious you're full of it.
from one of my trolls. First of all, TER does not allow multiple accounts, but they do allow you to change your username from time to time and aliases every six months as needed to keep your anonymity. I tried to explain this to you before, but as the most paranoid lurker here, you didn't understand the process. If you look at the top posters list on this board, you will see that I have been a member since 2008, but CDL has neither reviews nor posts prior to the fall of 2015. Is it your contention that I had no reviews and no posts for 7 years on TER. That doesn't sound like something I would do, does it? Similar to YOUR backstory, it was using the same handle for reviews of indies that I used for posting that caused me to change my handle completely, but its the same continuous account.
If you know how to do a topic search on this or the Kgirl board, you will be able to read an explanation of my scoring system, which is the most consistent of anyone here. If you think I have any fake reviews, pick any girl that I have reviewed that you have seen, too, and then ask me a personal question about her that only someone who has seen her would know. If you had any reviews, I would do the same for you. I could link it for you, but you're not worth it. You really should read it, because then you will see what a fool you are for posting what you did.
One thing most veterans will tell you is that it's always the guys writing fake reviews that accuse others of fake reviews. If you go back on the Kgirl discussion board beginning in 2015, you find that my information is always spot on about any girl being discussed, as verified by others who had also seen her. It's not hard to get to 400 reviews over a seven or eight year period when you are seeing three girls a week, so you want to say it's fake reviews when, in reality, you just don't have the budget to see more than you do. Go to the top reviewers list and you will see many names that have far more reviews than I do. Meanwhile, taking your claim of 72 reviews at face value, spread over 14 years is not even one girl a month, and here you are, trolling a lot of people here and putting your general lack of knowledge on full display when you are really just a marginal monger, at best. There are many guys who have seen hundreds of Kgirls and have the reviews to back it up. Check the Kgirl board and you will meet some of them. You just don't know much about P4P, probably due to your very low volume.
First, you don’t seem to understand how trolling works, or it’s just more you being full of shit. Probably both. Just look back at our exchanges. Every time you start by responding to something I said. I, on the other hand, mostly ignore what you say, except when you start shit with me, aka you troll.
Second, I don’t know what your point is in bringing up that your handle shows the account is older and used to be a different name. That’s of no relevance. And other than the account existing, tells us nothing. Besides, I pointed out you haven’t reviewed in 2 1/2 years. I said nothing about what you did before your 400 fake reviews.
I have no interest in wasting my time and searching your Kgirl board posts history. I’m not that obsessed with you. And, it doesn’t change the fact that your reviews are bogus. You copy and paste , then tweak them, and you cannot deny it. I already showed 4 reviews of yours in a row that follow the same formula and use very similar wording. And, I can put more on display because it’s literally how you write your reviews. Disingenuous reviewing brings into question any claim you make.
And you’re really missing the point. I don’t care if you saw 400, 800, or 8000 escorts. I’m just throwing your own stupid reasoning back in your face. You float this theory that if a poster uses an alias then they haven’t reviewed anyone. That’s just stupid. And, it’s the same reason that your copy and paste reviews have no more value than you not being able to know which reviews are mine. And while you can’t link them to me, I can guarantee you I have never copy and pasted from one review to the next.
And yes, 72 is less than one per month. I don’t only hook up with escorts. And, in the earlier years it was maybe 1-2 times a year. At my peak, maybe 2 per month. These days less. But despite your attempt to discredit my experience because it’s not close to 400, 72 is actually A LOT by most accounts. It’s certainly enough to speak from experience. Also, the real experience number is closer to 100. I didn’t discover TER when I first saw an escort.
If only you could take my advice and STFU. I have no reason to troll you if you get your monkey ass off my back. But if you keep clawing, I will keep unraveling you.
Another hilarious post from our resident comedian, CDLOL. CDLOL's decisions are not the result of his circumstances and personal choices. They are simply the logically correct conclusion that can only be reached from years of experience and expertise. When it comes to paying for sex, CDLOL is simply better at it than the rest of us. He isn't 50 year old foreigners because he is cheap. He is doing it because it is the only reasonable choice given all the facts and circumstances.
that CDL minimizes the chances for a bad session and if he does get one, he learns from his mistakes. However, I don't know why you think that methodology would be amusing unless you think it's out of reach for most mongers.
I spend an average of $400 an hour with Kgirls and $600 with indies. All sessions are one hour with new girls and two hours on repeats. It's well documented on the Kgirl board that I hobby on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. That's at least $2000 a week. Compared to some of my close hobby bros, who spend twice that in a week, it may seem cheap, but to the average guy here, especially the low volume aliases showing no reviews, I'm betting it's not that cheap. You can always show your reviews for several months showing what a player you are and prove me wrong . . . . if you can.
Well proven that you see three women a week??? You haven't had a review in 2 1/2 years. Just like the "Aliases" you rail about, how do we know you've seen anyone in that time? Don't you see the irony?
And prove you wrong? You are proved wrong all the time but if you don't deflect or not answer the questions, you usually come up with a lame response. No one is interested in your redundant "prove me wrong" schtick.
"low-volume (or no-volume aliases), you don't have to raise your hand and say, "what about ME." We all know already that you are irrelevant and contribute nothing here that has any cred behind it. You also put "likes" on your own messages because when your message appears, the "like" is already on it. If you are really that desperate for attention, ditch the alias and show you have a pair.
Look who's calling the kettle black? What do you contribute? Certainly not any reviews. And since that is your standard for "cred," you have none, nada, zilch! Oh yeah, I know what you contribute.... the same old tired response.
Beware of high price masquerading as high class. Some of these high price girls previously had reviews under a different persona. They rebrand to escape the bad reputation and voila provide same poor service but they make more money and can't be held accountable because of no review policy. Not all but definitely some. There is a Twitter mafia group of escorts that is notorious for this. Avoid those girls and ones in their influence and should be ok.
Be prepared to spend $$$$ a week and compete with others.
Your post just made me laugh.... Thank You.