I'm not here for the sex, I am here for the money. Those two ought to get together. Sounds like a match made in heaven. At least there will be no overstaying, whiny love crap to deal with. Pay. Fuck. Leave. Roll in money.
I have been doing this for many many years. I am the first one to advise guys to view our sessions with providers as performances and not to read too much into them. So, this is not a falling-in-love post.
This is more about the gut reaction. About a year ago, I was seeing a fairly high rate provider ($800+/hr) for the second time. We had some good email exchanges before we met for the session but nothing super special IMO. The only notable part was that she had seen my post here about dom/subs and asked me which one I was...Answer: Dom. So, when I get to the room and drop off the donation, I find a note addressed to me. She has a wicked smile but doesn't comment. It says exactly what I wrote in the title. What followed was a great session where I tried a few Dom moves but I definitely held back without any more ground rules or safe word. I tried to guess whether I had gone too far or not far enough by her reaction afterward, but it was pretty unremarkable.
Obviously, the words stuck in my mind as I'm still thinking about the intent and possibilities a year later. It was my intro to Dom-sub in the P4P world and I have not had any since. I would still err on the side of caution with dom-sub play when not knowing my partner very well.
Tread lightly. But hot nonetheless if you really know what you're doing. You are either a true Dom or not. There's no middle ground and there's no pretending in that realm. Good luck to you.
I can't count how many times in my youth I was invited to a willing girls party , with three or four guys
having a gang bang celebration with her .
I always refused to attend those events , my mind found the thought of it repulsive , though I felt no
ill feelings toward the girl or her gang bang friends .
A couple times I tried those girls on for size , with her and myself alone .
I never got the feeling she particularly enjoyed being treated nice with one guy .
To each their own is my motto , as long as everyone participating is there on their own free will .
I had a full time GF ask me to come home from work , storm in the door , throw her to the floor and act like I was raping her .
When I emphatically said NO , she continued to try to convince me how much fun play raping her would be .
When she persisted with her plea though I continued with NO , I found my fun dumping her , and finding another GF .
I can't blame any adult for the way they were treated as a child .
If my Mom had beat me I might feel differently about women .
Yeah man. Gotta treat a woman like a ho if that gets her off. I grab her tits til my finger marks are left on it, slap her ass around silly, dick slap her face like she isn't worthy of sucking my good cock, and basically manhandle her till she gets bruised, and I fuck that pussy til she's sore. Sometimes she starts bleeding because it was too rough
Now, before the ladies get alarmed, I only do this if she requests a rough one. I tend to be gentle otherwise. 
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To me, this is not a de facto description of "treating someone like a ho". I domination is more about will, desire and pleasure, and not really related to unnecessary roughness.
Now, before the ladies get alarmed, I only do this if she requests a rough one. I tend to be gentle otherwise.
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I don;t get it but I don;t half the kink around here. As long as it is consensual who knows what drives one to allow that type of thing or what drives one to do that type of thing.
There is something unbelievably orgasm inducing about erotic asphyxiation play. In the heat of the moment (with a willing partner) grab her throat and give her everything you've got. I guarantee she will absolutely go wild.
This is more about the gut reaction. About a year ago, I was seeing a fairly high rate provider ($800+/hr) for the second time. We had some good email exchanges before we met for the session but nothing super special IMO. The only notable part was that she had seen my post here about dom/subs and asked me which one I was...Answer: Dom. So, when I get to the room and drop off the donation, I find a note addressed to me. She has a wicked smile but doesn't comment. It says exactly what I wrote in the title. What followed was a great session where I tried a few Dom moves but I definitely held back without any more ground rules or safe word. I tried to guess whether I had gone too far or not far enough by her reaction afterward, but it was pretty unremarkable.
Obviously, the words stuck in my mind as I'm still thinking about the intent and possibilities a year later. It was my intro to Dom-sub in the P4P world and I have not had any since. I would still err on the side of caution with dom-sub play when not knowing my partner very well.
et used to wearing an orange jump suit
I am no David Carrodine. We are not talking to the point of losing consciousness lol.
.Charlie Sheen said I'm not paying for sex.I'm paying for prostittes to leave. Thanks sharing!
This is more about the gut reaction. About a year ago, I was seeing a fairly high rate provider ($800+/hr) for the second time. We had some good email exchanges before we met for the session but nothing super special IMO. The only notable part was that she had seen my post here about dom/subs and asked me which one I was...Answer: Dom. So, when I get to the room and drop off the donation, I find a note addressed to me. She has a wicked smile but doesn't comment. It says exactly what I wrote in the title. What followed was a great session where I tried a few Dom moves but I definitely held back without any more ground rules or safe word. I tried to guess whether I had gone too far or not far enough by her reaction afterward, but it was pretty unremarkable.
Obviously, the words stuck in my mind as I'm still thinking about the intent and possibilities a year later. It was my intro to Dom-sub in the P4P world and I have not had any since. I would still err on the side of caution with dom-sub play when not knowing my partner very well.
I'm not here for the sex, I am here for the money. Those two ought to get together. Sounds like a match made in heaven. At least there will be no overstaying, whiny love crap to deal with. Pay. Fuck. Leave. Roll in money.
How about whiny snot nosed imbecile.
She was trying to anticipate your desires, and channel the type of provider she thought would be your 10/10.
But you never know. That's just what it would mean if *I* said it, and I am not the girl in question here.
But I have said similar things if I know that is what will get the client's rocks off.
If I read a client's post or review and he specifically expresses a preference for something - I will try to incorporate it into the session. Given that I am willing to see the client/do fetish in the first place, of course....I personally would not take it so literally. But again, I am not the one who wrote those words (although I have written/said similar)
This is more about the gut reaction. About a year ago, I was seeing a fairly high rate provider ($800+/hr) for the second time. We had some good email exchanges before we met for the session but nothing super special IMO. The only notable part was that she had seen my post here about dom/subs and asked me which one I was...Answer: Dom. So, when I get to the room and drop off the donation, I find a note addressed to me. She has a wicked smile but doesn't comment. It says exactly what I wrote in the title. What followed was a great session where I tried a few Dom moves but I definitely held back without any more ground rules or safe word. I tried to guess whether I had gone too far or not far enough by her reaction afterward, but it was pretty unremarkable.
Obviously, the words stuck in my mind as I'm still thinking about the intent and possibilities a year later. It was my intro to Dom-sub in the P4P world and I have not had any since. I would still err on the side of caution with dom-sub play when not knowing my partner very well.
I do not advertise as a dom/sub provider. But I have had those requests come up....I have usually acquiesced, while naming certain limits (i.e. I enjoy being *lightly* spanked)
Some guys are very respectful as to boundaries and actually make the session enjoyable. Other guys WILL get carried away a bit with the fantasy...I never had anything too too terrible happen, but when a guy is really horny, he might get that 'no means maybe' or 'she will like this if i make her try it' type of tunnel vision. You were very considerate to watch out for that.
Some girls allow extreme behavior, and make good money by indulging clients most girls would consider out of line. Motives vary - I know one who is truly into her kink (a dom) and one who just tolerates it (a sub). The sub has some serious issues (not saying this is representative of all or most subs, this just happens to be true of the only one I knew well) but makes more on a daily basis that I do in two weeks. I guess you could consider that consensual...she is trading one thing, for a shit ton of money - but just because it is offered and even encouraged, does not mean that if *I * were in double with her, that I would feel comfortable hitting her hard. Seems like you feel the same.
I guess the message I would impart is - remember that she IS under some pressure to humor you. So guys should not take consent for granted in these types of situations. Ask, and ask again. And if you have any doubts whatsoever...don't do it!
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It should be Giraffe or something so off the wall that it couldn't be confused. I suppose there needs to be a level of trust. Personally, I don't take the dom part to be about the spanking and what I mean by that is that the spanking doesn't need to be hard, but more a punishment (symbolic) for not following instructions or directions. I can understand if a guy is spanking for pain that a lady shouldn't trust him. I haven't done it yet, I want to do it the first time with a pro sub so that I can get some feedback from her afterwards. I think it's interesting, it's not something I'd be interested in on a regular basis though. It's cool to step outside the box now and then though, especially when you have to be so conservative in your daily life.
At least that is my experience...and I've been with pro-subs over the years. But many more who are gals who advertise GFE but also will explore the dark side with me.
What you do need to make sure is that any gal who is offering up to be a sub clearly knows what the scene will entail...and you need to know where her boundaries are. Trust is always the key...and knowing where her limits are will make a safeword something she will never have to utter.
What a smart Dom knows is NOT to break his toys.
The truths you describe are abundantly clear to me, which is exactly why I want my first time or two to be with a pro sub so that I can get that feedback. I'm not sure, because I haven't experienced this yet but I suspect the best dom/sub experience would be when you encroach the safe word. If you get close enough to it without her having to utter it. So by doing it with a pro once or twice, she can give you hints as to the telltale signs. I have no intentions on hurting anyone, physically or emotionally, it's just a fantasy thing. I suppose when I do it the first time with a non pro, it'll have to be with a friend I have seen quite a few times so that there is some trust. Plus I can always show her my certificate from the pro, lol
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See a ProDomme and have the Domme do to YOU what you had planned on doing to a sub. Once YOU have experienced that scene understanding how the sub may react will become quite evident.
There are also many ProDomme's who will scene with you and the prosub to show you the ropes, per se.
Simply having watched it on TV or online doesn't qualify you to practice on someone who is a willing participant. You should under any circumstances let your toy know that you have NO experience...that may alter whether she would play with you unsupervised.
Maybe familiarize yourself with the BDSM board as many there can offer you suggestions and ideas.
Play smart and make sure you don't break your toy(s).
As long as I've been in here, I didn't know there was a BDSM board. I guess that shows either how new I am to the idea or how unobservant that I am. Cool, I'll have to check that out. As far as being the sub, I'm mot sure I'm there yet, although I guess do unto others, huh?
My college GF loved to be called just about every dirty name you can think of including the C word. At first I sucked at it, because I wasn't confident with it. But she persisted and I opened up, she absolutely loved it, I mean she came like a woman possessed. Not because I'm any kind of a stud, but because she went after hers totally unabashedly. I wish I had a video camera back then and would have taped her, and even if I'd have taped just her face with sound. That woman came with more intensity than I have ever seen, those tapes would have made for some great spank material. I came home from work a couple of times and caught her masturbating, no hesitation in her or embarrassment, she just kept going until she was done, I think I didn't catch her and that it was planned. I bet this will come as no surprise but she was a pshyc major. After we discussed it a few times it made sense, she was a bookish, quiet girl (quiet except for when she came) from a comfortable, conservative upbringing, so she wanted to visit the other side sexually and she got off on being used like a little fuck toy and talked to like one too. My point is that she could just let go and be totally in the moment with total confidence that it was just fantasy. I wouldn't want to be a dom with a provider that is not a pro and not be confident in that role as it would either be too reserved or take the chance on going too far, better to learn the ropes with someone experienced with it I guess.
Nearly every GFE gal that I know or have seen would do that scene with you. That's not a BDSM type of scene.
Just let them know in advance that you want to call her names and shit....I can't imagine many would be offended in the least.
That's not my scene...but if it works for you it should be easy to make that happen...and often.
I had a session a few years back with one gal that had the most foul mouth of any gal I've ever fucked. And she loved...and I mean loved to be told that she was a slut. She fucking insisted on being degraded while fucking. She's gone now...and frankly no one has ever come close to this gal. But like I said...not my type of scene. But it was hot.
"Oklahoma!" for someone I see. I agree that use of that word accidentally is unlikely. At least around here.
I haven't seen her yet, but she advertises that she is a sub and 90% of her reviews are such. I've never done dom yet and it sounds like good fun with a lady who is willing to be a sub. I've thought about it many times and I'm sure what I'd want to do is after the greeting agree on a safe word and then excuse myself to shower up and tell her it's game on when I come out from the shower. It sounds like fun, especially since she is a professional sub. These sessions are just fantasy anyway, so why not experiment a little. My GF in college used to tell me "treat me like the dirty little slut that I am" and she got off on that stuff. Probably why when I get comfortable with a provider and I ensure that she knows nothing is meant by it I like to dirty talk both her and I. Again, this is fantasy, we all like to extend beyond our normal selves now and then, look at Holloween.
I'm getting into pro subbing pretty soon here (thanks, Kat!) and that shit is complicated. We all have our boundaries, so I'd be too chicken shit to just put that on a note and hope for the best.
I've never been with Kat but was introduced to this "sub-ject" by a girl who's since become one of her crew. The gal in question is a lifestyle submissive and taught me some wild stuff. It's not something I need/want to do very often and would never do it unless invited. I would certainly have to at least believe she wanted and needed it. If it's obviously an act, that's a turn-off.
I wouldn't have picked you as a sub but as a mild dom. I've got an extra Invisible Fence dog collar... You can adjust the intensities...
I've always leaned more towards the submissive end of the spectrum. I think it's because it takes a confident dude to dominate a beeyatch like me.
Funny thing, I'm looking to try the dom role.... Maybe we can mix it up?