or at least open the hotel soap. If not, you might get blacklisted and doxxed by the psycho bitch:

 
Madeleine Blair • Charlotte, NC
@sensememories
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2h
I have been lied to about this before.  

“Have you washed your hands?”
-“Yes.”
*promptly finds unopened soap*

Shithead Steve P. from NC escaped with a blacklisting. If this happens again, I will leave immediately—WITH the envelope.  

Wash your fucking hands.

 
I'll bet poor Steve P. from NC never expected his PII to be blasted on Twitter and a blacklist site when he shared it with this "reputable" provider. I'll bet he even sent her a deposit, a gift and tipped her too.  

Here's a big call-out for all you hookers who say a "reputable lady" would never abuse someone's PII, would never blacklist frivolously, would never behave unprofessionally... I'm just providing a concrete example to expose the great lie.

with the “psycho bitch” on one thing: wash your fucking hands.

 
But getting blacklisted and doxxed for it is ridiculous.  A gentle in-person correction and slap upside the head would’ve sufficed.  

Maybe he has a soap allergy and forget to bring his travel size pHisoHex.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexachlorophene
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There is at least one alternative, ONLY if IF she is agreeable.

Throw down the gauntlet. (Technically, "gauntlet" is a knight's metal glove, not a sterile latex surgical glove. You, or she, will get the idea.)

and not a nice one.

And said "yes" just to blow her off. Why the lie??....She probably figured this guy was going to finger fuck her and she just wanted to make sure the dude washed his hands.But for her to blacklist the guy, that's alittle extreme. She seems wound too tight for my taste.

END OF MESSAGE

I don't do twitter so I can't see her post, but a couple of points.
She has only one review on TER, not the guy mentioned, so he sent his RL info to someone without a track record? That is a potential disaste. I don't send that info to anyone.

He's a jerk for lying. all he had to say was "oops, I'll do it now" and avoid the whole situation.   There are so many reviews I have read where a guy says something like "I jumped in the shower and was out before she got naked". I wonder if the water ever hit him.  SMH. What's wrong with scrubbing clean for an encounter?  Including fingernails! I don't think anyone would like something dirty shoved into THEIR pee-hole!
I always shower before a meeting, and have happily taken a second when requested (only once or twice) just to make her relax. It's no big deal.

How do you consider her "reputable"? She has a single review.

It's been a while since some here cared about facts. Find some case that one can claim is a poster child for something they don't like that occurs and it doesn't matter if the facts and details of the one case fit the actual narrative.

 
I suppose we should stop caring about it though, just a casualty of the whole fake news movement that seems to be increasingly present in society and social interactions these days.

Etiquette portion of her website says

"Hygiene is of the utmost importance. May we all follow the Golden Rule before interaction with others: soap suds, squeaky rinses, toothpaste and mouthwash. Expect to shower at the beginning of any private session."

Why lie about something an escort specifically mentions on her website? That's on the client, not the escort.

and not washing his hands (it's not that hard), but this is most definitely NOT a blacklist worthy offense.

This is just another example of a provider abusing the blacklist system for something petty instead of what it's actually meant to be by making other providers aware of a truly dangerous client.  

This is also another example of why a client shouldn't give their RWI to a provider.

She busted him for not washing his hands simply because the soap hadn't been opened. So what if he rinsed his hands in water and didn't use soap? Not good either, but not as bad as not doing anything. And, as you said, not worth a BL.

There’s always one in the room, congratulations it’s you this time.

Perhaps she do the smart thing and insist upon a shower at her incall and it would best for all if she joined him.

He got what he deserved. It's dopes like him that keeping sending their PII to these ladies are the reason why more and more of them keep asking for it. Hold the line fellas. If we all refuse to send them our PII they'll be forced to change, or go out of business.

Jensen is talking about not caring about facts, but I'll take it even further.

 
You CAN wash your hands AND have an unopened soap.

This can happen in multitude of ways, actually.

 
You can bring and use your own soap. In fact I've heard some stories about a kgirl monger who brings in his own soap in socal.

You can use bodywash (whether your own or hotels) in a shower.  

 
You can use antiseptic napkins/disinfectant/sanitizer, which is fairly common in post-covid world.  

 
All of these constitute "washing hands" to me and doing all of these - none of which would include opening a hotel soap - would cause me to say "yes" to the question posed.  

 
To have a tantrum and throw real info around (if his name wasn't Steve but rather LeBron it would be way more obvious and narrowed down) because soap is unopened is preposterous. These new age twitter providers sometimes just want any reason to out their clients, and what's more they really think they are in the right. Like, huh???

is NOT the same as hand washing.  

 
But you’re missing a big point here. This isn’t about whether the guy cleaned his hands in some way that you (or he) might think qualifies as hand washing. It’s about making the provider feel comfortable doing fun things that you want her to do with you. The more comfortable she is, the more fun you’re going to have with her.

 
So it’s important to make it clear to her that, yes indeed, you DID wash your hands. And the rest of your body. And brushed your teeth. And used mouthwash (especially if she’s provided it—some providers require it for DATY). I always make a point of leaving evidence in the bathroom that I’ve washed my hands. She may not check. But she might.

The act of washing hands is removing bacteria from your hands and making them clean. Pretty identical to sanitizer. Obviously if you have been tinkering with your vehicles engine, sanitizing isn't enough, but I think edge cases aren't as important.

 
I think you're the one who's missing the point though. Outing someone over a perceived untruthful statement of washing hands is preposterous even if he did indeed lie. Doing it over something that isn't clear cut and there are many possibilities to how the hands could be washed, is worse tenfold.

 
Let's reverse the roles and see how ridiculous it would sound. A provider shorted me ten minutes and when I said clock is fast she denied it ? I'll go ahead and post her real name on Twitter as well as bl her from any other clients. Sounds reasonable? No? Because it isn't.

I go to a providers Incall and asked if she douched. She says yes. But I don't see any douche in the bathroom besides an unopened one.

 
So do I out her name on Twitter and blacklist her?  

 
Or perhaps playing a bad Sherlock Holmes role and making idiotic assumptions instead of deductions... is a very dumb thing?

Looks like you didn’t read it.

 
Also, washing one’s hands isn’t only to kill bacteria. It’s to wash away dirt. Rubbing hands with hand sanitizer kills at least some germs but doesn’t wash away dirt, and it doesn’t kill germs as well as hand washing.

I have. I'm glad we agree there, but I don't see why it was decided that he's lying when there's no evidence besides an unopened soap.

 

I could understand that if she checked his hands and they were dirty, but unopened soap? What kind of Nancy drew teenage detective bullshit is this based on? Just dumb assumptions all around.

 
And your statement missing a point that I never missed, quite frankly, was largely irrelevant. I didn't question why the provider asked whether he washed his hands. I questioned the logical leap between seeing an opened soap box ->conclusion that he is lying. I have no qualms with providers wanting good hygiene, I completely get the need for it and I agree with it.  

 
If this provider is as good at her job as in making logical conclusions, I can only pity her customers.

spritzing hand sanitizer is equivalent to hand washing?  😂

 
And don’t forget your leap that I agreed with her ridiculous behavior, when it was clear I didn’t.  

for a couple of years on another board.  He attributes statements to me that I never made and draws conclusions that are not supported by the direction of the exchange.  Good luck being reasonable with him.

So you decided to use whataboutism?

 
I brought up several scenarios in which you could wash hands or have equivalent to washing hands.

I agree with you about sanitizer not being strictly equivalent.. I even mentioned engine (ie engine oil) and edge cases in my post.  

 
And I never said you agreed with her behavior.

 
Now that we're done with whataboutism, maybe you can address the main point I was making - that saying an unopened soap in a hotel room means he lied about washing hands.... is exemplary of a VERY poor and low quality cognitive process. And should be ridiculed. Instead, no one but me is challenging this awful, idiotic, kindergarten-level logic...moreover, you are taking this two-cent hypothesis as a fact that he lied about washing hands. Absolutely ridiculous.  

 

Let me spell it out for you in caps.

 
AN UNOPENED HOTEL SOAP does not mean a client lied about not washing hands. There is no logical chain there.

 
If I were this Steve P being outed, Id tell this provider to take her magnifying glass, and jump-to-conclusions-ass self and make the two meet in an orifice she (allegedly) knows how to use. Her deductive side is clearly not her forte.

 
I'll ask you again, , if you ask provider if she douched and she answers affirmative but you don't see a douche in sight, do you then think she lied to you?
If the answer is no, then be consistent and also don't consider what the monger said as a lie. An unopened soap as evidence is hilariously bad.

You said: “The act of washing hands is removing bacteria from your hands and making them clean. Pretty identical to sanitizer.”  Then you mentioned sanitizer not being good if someone was working on their car’s engine. Thus you said that using hand sanitizer is “pretty identical” to hand washing except for that one case.  Which of course, it’s not.  

 
Also, you said you read my initial post in this thread, but if so you didn’t understand it.  I never said that I know for a fact he lied about washing his hands.  Instead, I gave a simple solution to this issue of “did he wash his hands, or didn’t he?”  I said she should have brought it up on the spot. That would give him the chance to explain, “Yes, I did wash my hands!” as he pulled the bottle of soap he brought with him out of his pants pocket. 😂  Or he could have tried to explain that he used hand sanitizer at some time in the recent past and that is pretty identical to hand washing. 😂😂 Or tell her he used the body wash in the bathroom—if the hotel provided body wash, many don’t.  Or, if he really didn’t wash his hands, he could have fessed up, apologized for lying about it, returned to the bathroom to wash his hands, and then let the fun commence.  

 
I won’t use caps, but IMO the odds of an unopened soap indicating that the guy didn’t wash his hands are greater than any of the alternative scenarios you brought up.  Thus I think the provider deducing he didn’t wash his hands was reasonable.  What was NOT reasonable was her actions after discovering the unopened soap.

 
BTW, your douche example is ridiculous.  For one thing, I would never ask a woman if she’s douched or not. Would you?

I consider hands being dirty from dirt an edge case. Then, I'm a white collar worker so I probably couldn't enumerate all of the edge cases. But I did mention it (edge cases). All I could think of are people who work with soil and car engines. What's the last time your hands were dirty where a sanitizer didn't help? I can't think of such a situation for myself. My hands are either on my phone or on my keyboard.  

 

He doesn't have to explain anything. If a hooker is starting to make dumb assumptions and not believe him, what he should do and what I always will do is kick her out immediately. And the only way she's getting her money back is via court. Good luck, Ms Dora Holmes-Explorer ! If you can't take someone's word for it, g'bye!  

 
My example isn't ridiculous. It's to probe whether you have double standards. If you think it's reasonable to not believe someone based on an object being unpacked, surely, sureeely you would do the same when it comes to a provider. Right?  

 
Sure, I have no issues asking a woman whether she douched or not. I see girls who offer bbfs. It's a reasonable question.
It# not any less reasonable than asking about hands. Im sticking my dick in there.

So keep the same energy and logic for provider. But I know you don't.
Yet another example how people don't want to apply same standards to providers as they do to mongsrs.

I bet if the situation I've described arose, you would be the first in line to ridicule the conclusion that the provider lied based on lack of a douche. Yet you do the same with the soap. Pathetic.

you’ll say anything to try to make a point, even say things that cannot possibly be true; for example:

 
“My hands are either on my phone or on my keyboard.”

 
That is absolutely untrue, and you know it.  But anything to desperately try to prop up your poor argument.

 
And you’ve also made clear you’re as bad as the provider in the OP.  You’d “kick out” a provider immediately (from their own incall, I bet!) and take her money if she dares question whether you washed your hands when she sees the soap wasn’t used.  You couldn’t simply pull the bottle of soap out of your pocket 😂 and make light of the situation, so you can both laugh about it and move on. Nope. Kick her out and take her money.  Ok, I was wrong… you’re WORSE than the provider in the OP.

 
Have fun arguing with the wind. Bye.

What poor argument? I've said that I consider, for most cases, sanitizer equivalent to soap. There are edge cases, such as car mechanic etc where you also need soap to clean dirt. You do know what edge cases mean, right?  

 
I also agreed with you it's normal for provider to care about hygiene. Funny enough you seem to disagree that it's normal for a client to care about providers hygiene (hence your quip about douching, which you consider ridiculous. Here's a hint, Steve, no question is off limits just because it's a woman I'm talking to. I have no issues asking about women's age or anything else either. You don't get special outs just cuz you have a vagina, sorry. Same rights, no special privileges  sorry. ). Youve yet to answer my question about douching btw.

 
I don't really give two shits about how *bad* I am. We're discussing the situation on hand, not evaluating me or you.  

 
If someone accuses of me of lying using superficial arguments, I have zero tolerance for it. Especially during a short session where I'm supposed to relax and have my dick feel good. I didn't sign up for an interrogation. So if a provider starts saying I'm lying because she thinks unopened soap means I didn't wsh my hands, why would I want to have a sexual encounter with her? No, fuck off. If you can't take my word for it and resort to poor logic that will never ever stand in court or proven beyond a reasonable doubt, then go away. I'll be pissed and rightfully so. No one accuses me of lying when I'm telling the truth. If you can't trust me on a simple answer about my hygiene, and make a fuss out of it, adios.  

 

Unlike others I don't seek compromise or attempt to diffuse conflicts. You accuse me of lying when I'm telling the truth, I want nothing to do with you. I'm showing you that door baby, cuz I gotta have faith. I don't have to prove anything to anyone.  

 
I didn't say I'd take her money. I said I'd take MY money. No acts were exchanged. The provider in the op claimed she'd take his money and leave his outcall without providing a service because he lied which she deduced from an unopened box.

"If this happens again, I will leave immediately—WITH the envelope."

 
Yeha no, that's MY money and you will take it over my dead body. Be a Poirot wannabe somewhere else.