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itsnotahobby 385 reads
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1 / 57

And I was not disappointed. I have also had 4 hour sessions with no pops, and a 12 hour session with one pop. "Pops" are not the "end all, be all" for me.

EnrolledAgent 1135 reads
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2 / 57

During a 24-hour long date, how many pops would be:

1. The minimum
2. The average
3. Horndogging it

Just curious what people think or expect.

datytodayie 467 reads
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3 / 57

2 in 1 hour, maybe 3 in2 hours if we connect

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 585 reads
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4 / 57

They are "experience based" not pop based. It seems the guys who pay the least are the most worried about getting their money's worth.

I have done overnights where it was sex, dinner and going out, bath, sex before bed, sleep, sex in the morning. Not one time did any of those guys stick me at 3 a.m. with a hard on, but I doubt I would have been opposed.

I have done full on weekends that only averaged 2-3 pops per day. It depends on the guy, his age, sexual stamina, etc.

-- Modified on 10/17/2012 10:00:42 PM

Retired-Guy 387 reads
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5 / 57

That said, I've also had five or six in 24 hours, but the last few are rarely as enjoyable as the first.

iluv2bluvd 27 Reviews 411 reads
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6 / 57

I've done an overnight one time, never 24 hours. I knew based on my history that there was no way I would be able to wear the lovely lady out, but I ended up being up for even less than I had hoped for :) If I had woken up in the middle of the night it would have been fun to stick it to her, but I slept like a baby -- she wore me out I guess.

No regrets, I had a good time.

I actually think that any dates longer than two hours are more about the experience than the number of pops. And they can be the best kind, if you choose a compatible companion.

"It seems the guys who pay the least are the most worried about getting their money's worth."

And I bet those are the guys who have the least fun. They're also the ones who give critical reviews (7s and lower) about the $80 chicks from backpage and then complain that they can't find any quality ladies (facepalm).

MagicMedic 5 Reviews 292 reads
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7 / 57

I finish. I enjoy both the company and of course the sex.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 309 reads
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8 / 57

Minimum would be two, I would say.  Anything over 4 would be horndogging it for me.  

I'd have to be in prime shape and she would have to be hotter than a pistol.

EnrolledAgent 358 reads
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9 / 57

Right not my disappointment in a recent 24 hour date is still a little too raw to discuss without passion, but I had setup an "experience" around an event that actually went better than I expected. But also for me, sex is the glue that connects the parts of the experience together for me. That's why, I thought, I hired a professional for. It didn't occur to me that I'd have a problem. I wasn't thinking that spending maybe 4-5 hours out of 24 in bed spread out of the course of the day would be an issue.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 311 reads
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10 / 57

the rate will probably vary as well. I have THREE overnight rates for this very reason. If you want a porn star it's 3k. If you're a guy like lungman who only expects sex 3 times in 10 hours, it's 1500. See how easy that is?

I think what you forget is not every hooker operates with the same mentality, and clearly we don't want to see guys we won't mesh with. I am not trying to suggest there are not women out there who won't let you wear them out...oh quite the contrary, and many for less than what you would expect. I am just trying to give you an idea about the kind of men who normally book these types of dates. If a girl can't work for the next week because of your overnight, the rate needs to account for that. Some women have a cast iron vagina it seems.

Also, I have not and will NOT ever book more than 4 hours with a guy I have never met. I don't care how much chatting we do on the phone or via email, but if I can't spend some time in person getting to know him before, I am sure as hell not going to book him for an overnight. On the flip side, I know women who will hop on a plane and travel thousands of miles to meet a total stranger, so it depends on the provider in every case.

-- Modified on 10/18/2012 10:28:43 AM

Retired-Guy 266 reads
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11 / 57
EnrolledAgent 301 reads
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12 / 57

This was with someone I've seen before, 1, 2, and and a 4 hour dates before this 24. Apparently this 24 was too much? I don't know. I didn't go into expecting issues. I was treating it like a longer version of an overnight like the example you gave.

I likely to go back to being an 1 hour guy again. Fewer variables to consider, a sharper focus on expectations and a damn sight cheaper. I'm by nature a lone wolf, spending large blocks of time with people is not something I require. If I took what I spent and divided by 300 or even 500, the number and quality of single hour dates and the fun from them I could have had instead vastly overwhelms the experience I recently had.

EnrolledAgent 263 reads
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13 / 57

The same as the 2.7 children the average family has.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 290 reads
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14 / 57

Have you ever tried a clock free where there is no sleep? You normally get about 3-4 hours of sex in a 6-7 hour period, so that might be a better option for you. I have a very good friend who has made that her signature package and she does at least 2 a week. It is basically 7-8 hours for 1500, and yours to mix up any way you like. You guys may have sex for 2 hours to start, then grab a bite to eat, go to a play, etc. then back to end the day with another 2 hours of bcd. It's half the rate of an overnight, and more actual bcd time. The rates and time will vary per girl of course, but I am just giving you an example.

-- Modified on 10/18/2012 10:42:15 AM

EnrolledAgent 329 reads
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16 / 57

Yea that happens, but it was a very expensive way to find out. An attempt I'm not likely to repeat.

I've done what you've described with mixed results again. Not as bad, but as I'm discovering, longer dates require the right girl and you don't know if they are until you actually do it.

A misfire on one hour date stings but you get over it. The stench on a misfire on a 24 date lingers for much much longer.

buzzdog99 2 Reviews 242 reads
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17 / 57

for me....it's not quantity....it's quality time spent with a wonderful person enjoying life and each other.   yes....this sounds sappy and contrived....but I beleive it's true.   The last long term date(24 hrs) I had, we had sex a couple of times.....but had fun and laughter the whole time!  the last 6 hour date I had...we had so much fun that we didn't even think about jumping into the sack......she is a dear friend and a great provider....we like to be with each other!  I like to get my rocks off as much as the next guy, but without the total experience, it isn't fulfilling........

-- Modified on 10/18/2012 4:01:04 AM

Foodyguy 29 Reviews 260 reads
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18 / 57

After he finds out the gal is pregnant

So_Ca_Dreaming 135 reads
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19 / 57

We all have different taste and need. I like sushi, but I know many people can't stand it.

steeltipped 41 Reviews 278 reads
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20 / 57

in a 16 hour day (from 9am-1am) I was able to pull 9 shots from 6 women... but honestly the last one was almost nothing and mostly just convulsions...

Before I attempted it I was not concerned with pops, I was mostly trying to have encounters with 6 women in a day (you can read all about it from the link) but I had thought these numbers were to be expected

1. The minimum 6
2. The average 9
3. Horndogging 12

I can say with complete honesty that it was more difficult than I thought...

EnrolledAgent 327 reads
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21 / 57
steeltipped 41 Reviews 277 reads
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23 / 57

"During a 24-hour long date, how many pops would be: 1. The minimum 2. The average 3. Horndogging it Just curious what people think or expect."

See this is what's wrong with this board.... You ask a question... I answered but also qualified my response, so you understand how I came up with those numbers for a 24 hour date... You asked what we "think" and I answered it... Now you are mr. Smarty pants... Really? Wow SMH

steeltipped 41 Reviews 283 reads
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24 / 57

Actually 5&6 were a duo that came at the same time... And out of all 6 they were the only providers who had seen me before... A 7th was planned but she broke her leg early on in the planning and couldn't... she actually facilitated the other providers and set the schedule... And that session was surprisingly good due to the "positive" attitude of all the providers...

If you are ever in dc I should show you what positive energy can accomplish....

RollingMyI 149 reads
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25 / 57

I told you yesterday that there are some men who actually "dig it" and not always into the in and out the door in 59minutes fuck fests.

Call them suckers if you want, but the bottom line is... they really do exist, LMAO :D :D

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 257 reads
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26 / 57

I don't care what a guy chooses to pay for, but there are cleary two different markets and women who cater to them rather differently. I would never book an overnight or weekend with a guy who was concerned about how much pop time he was going to get...that's not fun, it's a hassle.

It is obvious his mentality would serve me better only seeing him for an hour or so, and getting him off and out....no problems doing either one.

The problem arises when pop based guys want that same shit in an overnight or weekend, then dog the girl out when it is not what they expected. If you don't have that kind of coin to drop and feel disappointed somehow, don't do it.

Some guys find it hilarious to pay a hooker to eat and sleep, and I can see the point..but, they are not how we make the big bucks either lol.

Your mentality allows you AND the provider to actually enjoy longer engagements, and I bet (just a guess) you're not paying what other guys who have a pop based mentality would be quoted.

EnrolledAgent 270 reads
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28 / 57

It wasn't the date itself, but the lack of sufficent intimacy that killed it. I only have to imagine that if I were to do it again I'd have to be extremely tacky and ask just what would I get in return.

EnrolledAgent 256 reads
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29 / 57

You answered the question with a non germane answer that had more than a hint of self-aggrandizement and braggadocio and you finished it with an ad hominem attack on me. Satisfied?

EnrolledAgent 168 reads
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30 / 57

Well, I'm not one of them.

itsnotahobby 186 reads
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31 / 57

Different strokes man. You know that disclaimer that most escorts have on their websites that people are always say are bullshit? Well I do pay a lady for 'time and companionship.' Sorry for not being a handsome stud like you who can get a civvy girl anytime but 'chooses' to pay escorts for sex. I pay to hang out with good looking girls and I don't have a problem with it. Why should you?  I also have a problem ejaculating. does that mean I should not enjoy the company and touch of a beautiful woman? My dates are my dates. I enjoy spending time with and doing things with the ladies. We do adventure dates. We hang out and do fun things all day, then end up in the bedroom. I also enjoy overnights because I enjoy sleeping with and waking up next to a beautiful woman. I enjoy cuddling and kissing and massage and mutual touch. I never said no sex either. I said no "pops." I enjoy receiving a bj even if I don't "pop" I also enjoy daty and a whole bunch of other things. Is it bad if I can enjoy myself with a lady without "popping"

EnrolledAgent 280 reads
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I see that somehow I'm to be despised for desiring some level of physical intimacy on my terms after paying the coin necessary. I don't think I was asking for anything extraordinary after the "event" the date was centered on which was itself extraordinary, a unique experience and afterwards when it was over, I had all my libido buttons pushed and was ready to play only to get cut off at the knees. Then to have her zonk out for the next 10 hours until checkout time. Two days later and I'm still fucking pissed as hell and likely will be for some time.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 282 reads
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34 / 57

Bottom line is...find girls WILLING to cater to what you want but don't expect each provider to be alike. I don't know if you meant you expected 5 hours of nonstop sex time, or if you wanted to have that time broken up over the course of the date, but if it's the first....I can see many ladies declining or at the very least charging more. I don't know what you paid, but was it even over 3k? Most women get that for 10 hours, not 24 and they still sleep for 4 of them.

The more work you expect, the more she is going to charge you. If it's just some relaxed deal where you guys do whatever, whenever, then you will probably get a break on the rate. You have a right to expect certain things as a paying customer, but the provider also has the right to not book with you if she feels you're asking too much. I was not there and there are certainly 3 sides to every story...we only have yours.

EnrolledAgent 201 reads
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35 / 57

I would have been happy with 4-5 hours out of the 24 spread out during the period. I wasn't asking for nonstop 24 hour sex. At my stamina level that 4-5 pops for me over 24 hours with a good looking hottie that she was.

I could only wish that she was the girl I once had an eight hour with. After the first 3 hours I asked if she want to do something else, she said no, and we fucked for another 2 before we went to dinner. Alas, that was what I wanted after the "event". Too bad she is no longer is available, that girl would have easily been my first choice.

-- Modified on 10/18/2012 5:58:01 PM

EnrolledAgent 294 reads
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36 / 57
EnrolledAgent 168 reads
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37 / 57

by what you meant by "no pops". You made it sound like there was little or no sexual activity over the course of the date. The absence of clarification led us to believe the wrong thing.

-- Modified on 10/18/2012 6:18:22 PM

EnrolledAgent 324 reads
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38 / 57

A checklist or being well-planned? There's going with the flow but also managing time and events in line with expectations. Going with the flow is fine if you have an inexhaustible amount of flow in which all things will come to pass. But if the flow is finite, time management is necessary. Sorry.

-- Modified on 10/18/2012 6:34:18 PM

EnrolledAgent 274 reads
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39 / 57

Just for your info, my single hour dates are always with 300 to 500 hour escorts and never with anyone less. Well okay sometimes $250. I remember one 250 BBW that fucked my brains out for a solid hour that I'm unlikely to forget anytime soon.

EnrolledAgent 229 reads
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40 / 57

Just for your info, my single hour dates are always with 300 to 500 hour escorts and never with anyone less. Well okay sometimes $250. I remember one 250 BBW that fucked my brains out for a solid hour that I'm unlikely to forget anytime soon.

itsnotahobby 142 reads
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41 / 57

Your original question was about how many pops in 24 hours, then after many more posts in the thread you come out with the fact that you just wanted more fun time with a lady you had a 24 hour date with, and that you are ok with cuddling etc.
I was just answering your op in my first post, and in my second post I was responding to Mr Black's condescending remarks toward me for not playing the same way he does.

Secondly what difference does it make if I did schedule a long date with no sexual activity? That would still be my business and and how I choose to play. I don't really care what you believe.

crazyshit 262 reads
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42 / 57

For me it's not about how many pops I can squeeze out in 24 hours.  It's about the quality I have in that time, without neing rushed.

We are not talking about two hours.

EnrolledAgent 306 reads
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43 / 57

Not really if you going to be zonked out of it for 10 out of the 24 hours which damn close to half which I didn't expect. In essence, even tho we were in the the same bed, I was sleeping alone.

Not really if you have fixed time points to meet, dinner reservations, concert times, etc.

What I require is someone that is conscious of my needs, respectful of my desires and professional enough to know what is expected of her.

I am not an ungenereous or ungrateful man. She did very well by me, but in the end I was left holding the bag.

Next I'll just snip it to eight and cut out the sleep time.

EnrolledAgent 287 reads
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EnrolledAgent 240 reads
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crazyshit 286 reads
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It's meant to be more of a date than anything else.  If you are looking for just extended sex sessions with some breaks in between for food and drink, then book six to eight hours.  Anything over four hours, providers generally expect a meal for, and most of them consider that time to be on the clock.

EnrolledAgent 254 reads
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47 / 57

If you had you would have seen that I clearly stated what I thought would have been acceptable. Nowhere did I ever insist or thought I was entitled to 24-hour nonstop sex.

Is reading comprehension these days a lost art?

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 282 reads
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48 / 57

You're using an alias for a reason right? I would agree that 8 hours of UNINTERRUPTED sleep would be enough for a 24 hour date, but I don't know how much liquor you fed this hooker before she passed out, so I can't really comment on all of that.

Once again, what exactly do you expect in 24 hours as far as sex time? If you have to manage time on a 24 hour date, something is seriously WRONG! I can manage time on a 4 hour date with no problems, so 24 hours is supposed to be about NOT worrying with such things. I would have probably stayed longer to make it up to you if I did in fact sleep more than you would have liked, but I tend to be very cautious about the guys I book with for such events.

BTW...are you going to write a review, because I bet we would all love to read it. :) I guess without you being really detailed, I don't know what it is she did that you are so upset with, other than the nerve of her sleeping and all. How much sex time in 24 hours did you get? I am guessing you know the exact hour/minutes since you seem so focused on that...spill it. How much time did you spend naked with this provider?

You prove my point that not all people are cut out for such dates. Guys who are used to doing these, unless totally ripped off of couse, would not be on the GD talking about this.

steeltipped 41 Reviews 248 reads
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49 / 57

wow someone really must need to get laid... I hardly need to brag about anything... but someone seem to need to complain alot...

steeltipped 41 Reviews 240 reads
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50 / 57

Buyers Remorse... nothing can be done about a 24 hour date that already happened...

steeltipped 41 Reviews 267 reads
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CamelToeJammed 131 reads
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52 / 57

Some guys really do like spending time with a woman whether there are pops or not.  I don't always pop, but I'm not paying per pop either.  I'm paying to have fun, whatever that definition to me is at the time, or what ever I'm int he mood for at the particular time.

EnrolledAgent 271 reads
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53 / 57

Alias? Yup for a reason even more glad I did

8 hours sleep sure of course, but I would have like to have something on the beginning/end of that eight hour period resembling intimacy instead of the nothing I got. After we got back to the hotel I would have liked to undress her from her hot outfit (that I had bought for her on a shopping trip earlier) and fooled around but she pulled it off herself then pulled on some shapeless jamas, visited the bathroom and then was out like a light until the next morning. Not even a goodnight kiss. Even then I had to wake her so we could get out of the room before checkout time.

we both drank the same amount, we were nowhere near being stumbling around shitfaced drunk if that you were thinking.

Sex time 4 hours out of the 24? once when we met, before dinner/evening activity, before sleep, sometime in the morning after? Like once every six hours? And maybe its not even sex, but cuddling and intimacy. Am I to be made out to be some kind of monster to want some?

Total naked time: 45 minutes total in two sessions, not becaused I'm focused on it but because I can recall the entire date from beginning to end. I'm just that way with memory.

crazyshit 258 reads
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54 / 57

I read your OP, and whatever you respond to, I reply to.

Sounds to me like you have a different POV on what 24 hours should be like, and that's fine.  

Best way to avoid this drama?  Ask upfront...which you clearly did not do.

I am trying to help but if you want a sympathetic ear and a yes-man, I am not it.

crazyshit 267 reads
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55 / 57

Am I saying you're at fault?  No, but did you speak up?

Not accusing...just wondering what you said.  Or did you just assume she would figure it out?

red_solo_cup 213 reads
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56 / 57

Your OP just had a simple question on number of "pops.' As many have replied, most longer dates are not "pop" related. You should have been more clear in your OP, but in your subsequent posts it became known that you had a 24 hour date that didn't have enough play time basically. Well it is hindsight now, but why the hell did you not discuss this before hand? Now when dealing with one hour dates usually nothing is discussed about the "intimacy" part of the date, and it is always said never to discuss sex before the date etc. This is of course talking about first meetings and short dates. If you are planning a long date and with someone you are already familiar with, then you damn well better discuss what you expect out of the date, or usually one side or the other is going to end up feeling ripped off.

While I have never done a 24 hour date, I have had many long dates, form 4 hour dinner dates to overnights, and full day dates. Expectations are always discussed ahead of time. for example a 4 hour dinner date might be 2 hours "in" and 2 hours "out." An overnight date might include dinner, a show, a romp before bedtime, a mutual shower, a romp in the middle of the night, and a romp in the morning, then breakfast and goodbye. There is also usually some discussion about a minimum number of sleep hours. A day adventure date might include an early morning romp, then an adventure filled day, and a romp to finish off in the evening.

These are never "pop" based or "pop counting" but there is always a plan for how many hours of intimate time out of the total together time.

Bottom line: Did you get shafted on this date? Probably, but it's your own fault. And why come here and whine about it, and actually start a post that really has nothing to do with your real complaint?

itsnotahobby 139 reads
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57 / 57

a girl, I would be one damn ugly one at that.
Nope, just an ugly old fat guy who has to pay cute young skinny chicks to hang out with me, and who doesn't have a problem with that.

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