i notice most of the time when duo's are offered,the cost is for more than the what the two girls would charge indivuidally.why?what conlusion i draw from it, is that they really don't want to do it
(with another girl) in the first place,so there has to an extra incentive.this one of main reasons i don't look at duo's more often.paying more for a less desirable situation doesn't make much sense to me.what iam i missing here?

Some ladies look at it as working on 2 people during a session instead of one. Sort of like a couples session. So they bill more to compensate for the perception of more work being done.

As others have said there is also room to charge more as a premium service.


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That being said, its up to girls how they want to structure their donations..

I have also seen lot of girls charge a little less than 2X. Its a little bit less work for most girls when two are pleasing one guy..

It sounds as if the providers in question feel that a duo is worthy of a premium price, because it is such an awesome and sought-after experience.

Read the recent reviews of these ladies' duo sessions. Maybe the reviews will give you an indication of what the session is like. Maybe it is something not to be missed, life-altering, fantasy-fulfilling, etc.

Or maybe not...but don't be confused by the pricing. It only means that it is an experience in high-demand.

I've experienced just the opposite with my duo girlfriends - it can be easier and more fun when there are two ladies.

Just a different perspective worth pointing out.

I have not had one myself. But I had read that explanation somewhere else. Wouldn't surprise me if I am wrong though I guess one day I may have to find out!

Just because I enjoy being with a woman does not mean I am going to let some guy watch and interact with US for free or no extra charge...what's the point? I could easily just fk her for free on my own time, with no guy around to take care of. A duo means I am SUCKING AND FKIN TWO PEOPLE, not just one...same goes for the other girl.  Seems self explanatory to me. Taking care of TWO people is a hell of a lot more taxing than just taking care of one person, so that's where your charge comes into play. You are HIRING two women to perform for YOU, not just to fk each other while you are not there.

It also has to do with what the "other girl" wants for it. I have done doubles for as low as 400 a piece and as high as 1500 a piece...depends on the girls I select to do it with, and what their fee is.


This is every guy's fantasy, so it would be stupid not to capitalize on it...end of story. It is one thing to just have 2 women on YOU without any interaction between them, but another thing to have to please 2 people at the same time, for the same amount of hours, and not get paid extra for that service. I love a good 3 some, but don't think I won't charge for it when that's the reason I am in this business.


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thanks for the input!

On any double sessions, I have never been charged more than the sum of the ladies individual rates. Some guys even have a big problem with being charged that much (i.e. two $400 dollar an hour ladies charging $800 for an hour duo session), as there thinking is that each lady is "doing less" in the hour because there are two of them working together. However in my mind this is flawed logic. You are paying the ladies for their time with you, and the fact that there are two of them with you does not lessen the amount of time each lady is with you (it may lessen the "sexual work" for each, but not their time spent with you). So  each lady is entitled to receive her hourly rate (as she has prepared for the hour). Thus, I fully expect to pay $800 if seeing two ladies who indivudally would charge $400 for an hour.

I am not sure where you are looking, but I have never come across two ladies offering a doubles session for MORE than the sum of their individual rates. If anything, some ladies will discount (i.e. the $800 session described above may be offered to you at $700). But this is entirely their call and should not be expected.

for just each the hourly rate. It is the hourly rate or the 2 hour rate x 2. With regulars, we will negotiate, but if they expect interaction between both ladies and on them, it's double the rate or at the very least each girl gets an extra 200.

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Exactly. Some gals don't charge extra if a female is involved (your SO or another provider), others charge for two (there is two people!), and some just add a little extra (depending on if with another provider, or if this is you SO). For me, it varies on if this is your SO or provider (and which provider) and if I find her attractive (!) lol. Plus, everything LR mentioned below. Why would I want to share her anyways? lol.

Sorry, but I got to quote this again "I could easily just fk her for free on my own time, with no guy around to take care of."
Worthy of quoting it twice in this post haha.

US to "perform" there is a price that comes with it. Saying that "because we are really bi does not mean we are working," is retarded. That's about as dumb as saying, "If you really loved sex, you would not charge for it" bwahhahaah. Um duh...last I checked, London Rayne was a Hooker who has a rates page for services offered.

where it makes sense to offer discount or just charge flat 2X..

A..If the other girl is new and is just getting her feet wet. If she is tag teaming with an established hooker, she can get into the business much easier..Her lower rates are an added incentive for the guys to see the duo.

B. Also some girls may be looking at it from a different point of view...If two girls are traveling together, they are probably staying in the same hotel room and they can actually afford to offer themselves at discounted rates.. This is especially true in a saturated market such as DC..

I have actually experienced both A. and B. myself..

I can see that, but I would never travel with another provider lol. I can't stand having anyone up my ass...heh.

Their schedules and habits are do different than mine. I usually annoy the heck out of people..

And some guys just drink too much and don't eat enough fruits and veggies.

want and expect the two ladies to interact as much together, as they expect it on them. Have you not read reviews that say, "Not into it?" Well, me thinks that is why. There is enough demand for this fantasy, that many of us can get away with charging for it. FYI, many ladies have doubles' rates that are not even as high as some providers' hourly rate. If I were charging 1k per date, it might include bringing a girlfriend, but alas...I don't. The "other" lady has to be paid, so are you suggesting that I just GIVE her half of my normal fee?

You just proved my point about the ladies having to be "really bi" but in the same breath said, "She can fake the rest." Well, which is it? Do you want them to be truly into each other (which means pleasing two people at once), or do you not give a shit? You can't really talk out of both sides of your mouth. When we are truly into each other, we charge more because that is a BENEFIT for the customer. If I wanted to go fk my girlfriend, I don't need a client around for the ride...thanks.

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They'll let you in for the right price. It isn't work for them to be together, it's fun and safer for them and they reflect that in the price. As always, don't EVER try to bargain the price down or the service will suffer. just wait your time for girlfriends to let you in the middle, and stand by for the time of your life. Also, because they are truly into each other, the sessions are the best, as long as they truly let you in.

The price a lady charges for her service depends on two things, and two things ONLY:

1) What she wants to get and
2) What she thinks she CAN get.

She will change those prices when
1) She feels like it or
2) She's not getting the amount of business she desires.

There is no math involved. There is often no apparent logic involved. Sometimes a price is "jacked up" because she doesn't really like doing it, sometimes because she thinks she can get more (doubles, greek, fetishes, etc, etc), and sometimes because she just isn't good at math

Why try to read into it? The price is the price, try to negotiate if you feel the need, at risk of pissing her off.

So, I might discount a 3 way where I don't interact with said lady at all, but not if we are both having to fk two people. What "benefit" is in it for the ladies to even both be with the guy at the same time, is what I am asking? If I am not being paid any more. why would I not just see the guy for the same rate, alone? There has to be some incentive in there for both ladies, and that incentive is money. If a guy says, "London, I want to pay you 600 bucks which is what it costs to be with you alone, but I want you to bring a GF for that same rate," I am going to think he is plum crazy. Why would I bother doing it if I can make that SAME rate, just by being with him alone?

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I respectfully suggest that the OP try his logic on the next couple of ladies he wants to book. I mean really spell his thoughts out and get back to us with his result. I would be interested in hearing how things go.

I am not quite sure how you can relay this...they would need the required toys and know what your script is. They might even have to "script" their time together in order to satisfy your needs. Tough to do beforehand.

Just to be clear, you don't mind her faking with the other girl...do you care if she fakes it with you?

You seem to have a very specific way you want the session to go, with your direction of the ladies and the specific toys you want to use, and the way you want them used. Many ladies, and please don't take my word for it, ask around...they may not respond to your email if you ask direct questions mentioning sex acts. If you feel I am overplaying the caution aspect, just come right out in your email and ask those types of questions. You might get a lady to answer, and then again you might not hear back.

I might remind you that not all ladies use or carry toys. It is not mandatory escort accoutrement. And you might want to check and see if the ladies are amenable to using whatever you bring. You might think all escorts do, but safe to say, not so.



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The ladies aren't really into women, but they will pretend to be if the price is right.
Charging more than they would for a one on one is proof positive of it.  All of the ladies who I've known who are really into other women HAPPILY do duos without any extra cost.

PL

I don't charge extra unless it is a female I am not attracted to. Still makes me bi, just that not every female turns me on. As I am sure not every female turns you on.

Do you really know how many women don't charge extra and are 100% straight? They don't care as long as they get their rate which is the whole point, to get the rate and possible future business. I rarely do duos, and have found quite a number who don't charge extra and claim to be bi, not bi. In the same respect, I also know some TER gals who are bi but won't do duos... out of personal preference.

Can never assume anything. All you can do is read any duo review to see if it was real or not. Or hell, if it was at least convincing lol. At that point, you can only figure that at least for those two women, they were into it. Doesn't mean they will be into it with another gal partner.

Anyways, I am happy today that I found a few ladies whom I am very interested in... that I can do duos with when I travel out to the east coast.

If you've seen one and she knows another, then by all means spell it out to your hearts content. Then the lady you know can fill in the other girl and you're off to the races!

And if I was to do a duo, I would get my hourly rate and the other lady should too. I would not over charge if that's what you mean. Just ask my normal hourly rate and be quite happy with that.

You prove my point about saying things so stupid, because if we don't like sex period, why do we charge for THAT? It's not about what we like on our OFF TIME, honey. You PAY to fk a hooker and you pay MORE to fk one with her girlfriend. Nuff said. If I want to bang my girlfriend, it's free. If I want my boyfriend (which I don't have) to fk me in the ass, again, that's free. If a client wants any of that, he fkin pays. Wow...hooker 101. You're welcome!

Let's not shatter his fragile ego, by revealing that most escorts PREFER women over men lol. Some of these guys need to be reminded that this is a BUSINESS, and we will capitalize on anything and everything, we know we can get paid for. I love anal, but I still charge a CLIENT an extra 200 for that service. I love being with women, and do so for FREE, but if a client wants to watch, I am going to charge his ass! Why? Because I fkin CAN!

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I've been with a few ladies who virtually demand anal, and not only don't they charge extra for it, they don't want to see you unless you are also into it.

One problem with many escorts is that they think EVERY escort handles their business the same way they do, or how their escort friends SAY they handle theirs. Having been with well over 200 escorts in my life, many on a regular basis for 5+ year (plus having numerous escort friends over the years), I truly believe I'm a better judge of the differences between escorts than you are. I've had regulars bring a surprise friend to share just for fun, no extra cost (btw, these are the only doiubles that are  really worth a damn .... LOL).

Not every escort is ALL business, but the ones who think that all escorts are, are. I ain't sayin', I'm just sayin'.

PL

I have never in my life heard of a true HOOKER refusing to see a guy or take his money, because "he was not into anal." Wow, you are truly deluded, and outright full of shit.  If I wanted to fk you or any other guy for FREE, I would not have a website dear nor would any of the other escorts here. I have done doubles in my personal life once upon a time, but you are out of your damn mind to think I am going to do that for FREE with a married man I met on a fk board ha ha ha. Sorry, but no.

So I guess you got me...I am a hooker, not a slut.  Match.com and facebook of sex, are on another url.

Face it dear, many women here are bi and more, outright GAY! They love women more than they will ever love being with a man, so your theory is retarded. Saturn is gay, but even she is not stupid enough to let you fk her or her GF for free. Check Mate.

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I love how men call this a "hobby".  It's a "hobby" for you.  Sure.  It sure isn't a hobby for the lady however.  It's a job, a business, a means of making larger amounts of cash faster.  I was under the impression that you are buying time and companionship, and everything that happens during that time is between two consenting adults.  Therefore, with doubles, you are not buying one lady's time, but two.  

Think of it in these terms.

You need a secretary for a temp job at your office.
But it's more involved than your regular run of the mill secretarial work.
You call the temp agency and hire TWO temp secretaries but you ask to pay an hourly rate for ONE?
How does that work?
I mean for all intensive purposes, the job will go faster, quicker, smoother with TWO secretaries, no?  Of course it will.
But you are hiring two individuals to provide a service.  Each of the ladies is providing you with one hour of her time.  So you are in effect buying two hours of time, not one.  

Like I said, you view everything through your own eyes, not realizing just how different some escorts are from the norm. Bet you've probably also never heard of an escort who requires a photo and phone conversation before she'll decide if sshe will see you. As she explained, "I only see guys who I'm attracted to, and who I think I'll have a good time with. I figure that I can date for free, or get paid to date. Getting paid is to date is better, and I'm in a position where I can be choosy" (btw, she was also the one who asked, "Don't you trust me?" when I wouldn't do BBFS on our 8th or 9th "date" .... LOL).

Not putting you down, just telling about my various experiences over the last 15+ years (not an expert, just experienced .... LOL). Some escorts are into the "lifestyle", specialize in being subs, and will only see doms. There are MANY different types of escorts, some 100% professional, others not so much. Just because you are one type, don't assume everyone else is.

I have no idea who or what Saturn is, and I don't care. If you don't think that there are some escorts who give their regulars special treats (like share a friend for no extra cost), you are simply wrong.

"Check mate" was a cute call, but it would have meant more if we had been playing chess. Believe me, don't; not my problem.

PL

Yes, I can agree with all you posted above, but just because you've had a few women give you shit for free, does not mean women smart enough to make money in a OMG, business, does not mean they are not "truly bi," or don't "truly love anal" or anything else you can come up with. By your theory all escorts hate sex, because afterall...we CHARGE FOR THAT. You said women who charge more for a duo are not really bi, so are hookers in general all man haters because we charge at all? Cmon lol. Your argument was weak, and that's all I addressed. Your post above makes perfect sense, and yes I know of a few women who ask for a photo. I know many women who offer bbfs...I just am not one of those women, and I could not care less what they do.