How about we come up with a P411 Decoder, that will translate the entirely unhelpful activities currently listed into something useful. So we'll have a list that matches up the tame list with what we actually want to know. Maybe "Slutty Attire" means BBBJ, "Party Girl" means Greek, and so on.
That way, P411 stays kosher with the new laws, and we still get the info we're all looking for. I know we can get much of that info here on TER, but a) we don't all have VIP memberships, and b) sometimes reviewers lie about what's offered, whereas P411 profiles are made by the provider herself.
Some guys have a hard enough time trying to figure out the difference between GFE and PSE. Put party girl for greek and sure enough your gonna have some dude who thinks he is one of the guys from wolves of wallstreet trying to blow coke up some chicks ass.
So not ideal.
I just went and looked again at the list. What does P411 mean by party girl? Gangbang maybe? When you hover over it, it says "Enjoys nightlife and likes to get wild". WTF is that? lol
....typically means she likes the hard stuff and not talking booze or cock.
I sure knew slang being form like no love service is code for no glove.
... type in proper English grammar please! I don't have a clue what you are saying and neither do many folks in here.
"Greek Goddess" is one of the listed activities/attributes.
"Likes to lick candy canes" for BBJ
Or
"Enjoys eating together" for 69
Or
"I enjoy tacos as well as frankfurters" for bi-sexual fun
Or
"I'll let you play my musical instrument" for DATY/diddling
Or
"I love to have people play with my pet donkey" for ass play
It could go on and on and we'd all "know" what it meant without using a codebook. Every sentence would be totally ambiguous and unable to be pinned as being sexual.
I like this better. The reason for change is to protect the site and not the users only. Keep the sites up and usable some way. In my opinion an account there or here would make little difference to my Italian uncle when he is considering me and my friends.
If it actually worked and providers adopted any system of euphemisms or codes it would immediately defeat itself. LE would figure out the system (they are at least as smart as our less gifted members) and it no longer hides anything. Better to move P411 to a place that does not care or the list is legal.
Prove she doesn't like to lick candy canes! Literally!
Synonyms according to whom? I just wanted to ride her donkey! Maybe she has a pet Ass in her backyard!!!!
offer and say pse but dont do greek. In real life if you think your gonna do porn and NOT do anal your wastin your time so the whole , "I am a porn star experience but yet I cant handle takin a dick up the ass. "
Bitch you aint a fuckin porn star drop the title. That's what I say, if you are too scared to take it up the ass or just a wimp. Don't call yourself a porn star experience, Porn stars can fuck up the ass AND can take it hard up there. {like me}
I actually been in porn and trained with Isabella Soprano. Your not a "porn star experience" because you can moan . Please. thats ridonkulous! You should be enthusiastic as a rule in this work anyway.
But apparently all these girls claim to be {pse} cuz they moan and talk dirty and that is like just mandatory for this job any fuckin how.
that should come with seein an escort any fuckin way. !
when I worked with or trained with isabella she even taught me to do make up. They give you a butt plug anal trainer kit, Eli did from "alternative modeling"
He said here start with smallest size, put it in hour a day. Then start workin way up to bigger sized plugs.
Its work yes and maybe uncomfortable at first when training to do anal "like a porn star" but dam you wanna claim it and call yourself "porn star experience} at least grow some balls and put some work in aside from layin on your back and moaning. Yeah its extra effort to train for anal but get over it.
SO now I have to write PSE AND GREEK. i have to write greek extra because aparently the meaning of pse is fast paced with moaning. ? or at least thats what alot of ladies believe is pron star experience. I dont know . To me thats just an basic escort experience. Nothin special about moaning or allowing fast paced fucking, Who doesnt allow that and do that? and calls them selves an escort?
which is totally stupid. Since so many give themselves pse title yet cant even take it up the ass. So I have to write PSE and then speratly write GREEK after. I never heard of an actual real porn star that cant do anal. I think a real porn star is gonna be able to do every sex act on the menu and do it hard fast and with elaborate drama and acting.
I recall eli sayin look if your age 24, ,,,,which is outdated he claimed for porn,
he said "Look , if you wanna make ANY money like AT all. There are 100 lb , blonde 18 year olds in L.A. doing it all! Anal ect. If your 24 which i was and you wanna make anything in porn industry where there are prettier younger girls in l.a. doin it all. You better be doin anal!"
But I dont deide these terms they are decided on by the community but aparently you can claim to do a pse and not even offer anal. If you ask me that's the wife at home experience. Moaning is easy no one trains to moan and that is like not hard work. Takin dicks up the ass, now thats porn star status./ Somethin the guys wives wont do.
Then now so many women say oh gfe is just actin like a girl friend?
what I thought gfe meant dfk and daty ? and bbj?
now some people who do cbj, dont kiss or allow daty call themselves gfe too. I think way too many use the titles but dont offer what the title is supposed too mean, or they came up with thier definition of what a gril friend acts like, Which if you ask me isnt what the term was invented for.
But marketing is like this, like if your buying organic, you have to read deeper on the label and product to see if it truly is certified organic. Any company can slap "organic" on thier package. or similiar terminology.
Any smart consumer knows not to believe terms slapped on advertisements wether your purchasing some entertainment or your buying food, you have to read a tad more than the label.
Those terms can be changed and changed again, Regardless they are meaningless and the guys simpky have to read reviews, Too many use them to market and dont really offer that . Thats marketing for you and it happens in every avenue of marketing not just sex workers.
people can change terms all they want the guys will always still have to read her reviews and profile.
I stand by the meanings that pse means greek multiple, fast and hard welcomed, elaborate dirty talk and moaning. The guy may get rowdy , and take a viagra before he comes. If your claiming to be able to fuck for an hour like a porn star . You better be ready,
Then. I also think gfe means bbj, kissing and daty.
but these are MY meanings no one has the same universal meaning or definition, TO ME in my eyes I feel i am not a porn star unless i am goin the extra mile, and takin up ass. Maybe it isnt my ideal like wedding night fucking, but i am offering an experience that people who get paid ALOT of money offer, Its not supposed to be fun,
{hahah}
I dont thin the terms mean shit any more guys gotta read the reviews is what it comes down to and hope she updates her profile often.
the terms are warped and too many warp the definition so they can claim to be that style when then clearly arenot . Making the terms meaningless.
moaning and fuckin fast paced if desired should be and is mandatory. that doesnt mean you are a "porn star experience" if you ask me,. Those services should be a given if you offer appts period fuckin duh, oh dont get me started on the terms, so annoying.
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I love reading your posts because you tell it like it is.
I hear ya. We on TER can't seem to define the difference between a PSE and GFE, once and for all. I just play it safe and go with GFE even though I like it up the butt too. lol
Now let me see if I've got what you mean. To be a PSE you have to take it up the ass. LOL
"110% real pics!" means "Fake pics."
"It's me or it's free!" means "Bait and switch."
"Highly reviewed on TER!" means "I hope you don't read my reviews on TER."
Oh ... sorry ... those are for backpage, not P411.
HAPPY NEW YEAR
I assumed that "slutty attire", "upscale attire", and "casual attire" referred to actual attire!. I've gotta stop taking p411 literally! I almost got in trouble once before making that mistake with "shower play" lol
That way, P411 stays kosher with the new laws, and we still get the info we're all looking for. I know we can get much of that info here on TER, but a) we don't all have VIP memberships, and b) sometimes reviewers lie about what's offered, whereas P411 profiles are made by the provider herself.
Oh shoot, I better go check too! Might see if UD has anything.
I think I posted this on my Google+ page; it's kind of a funny story. It was when I first started as a provider. A potential client calls me, "Do you like watersports?" So, I start talking about waterskiing. I have a tendency to either get really quiet or overly talkative when I'm nervous, so I kept going on and on about waterskiing and he hangs up on me. I thought about it a minute and realized that everyone talks in code. So, I googled it and facepalmed myself. Meh, I didn't wanna get peed on anyway. lol
That way, P411 stays kosher with the new laws, and we still get the info we're all looking for. I know we can get much of that info here on TER, but a) we don't all have VIP memberships, and b) sometimes reviewers lie about what's offered, whereas P411 profiles are made by the provider herself.
1 So you saying providers never lie ??? There allies some that will lie the whole point of TER
2. I sure new code words will come out people will have to learn the meaning then the words will Be banned also.