What makes Providers go work for an agency? And why do hobbyist want to go to an agency?!  

Since I'm a hobbyist I will attempt to answer the latter part of the q.

A ready supply of available ladies (period).

I was young & in College when I was introduced to outcall nude entertainment. To work for an agency you need a license from the police department. I had no clue how the market, or industry operated & had no idea you could be independent. After working for several agencies I realized I could own, and operate my own business. I opened my own adult entertainment company that consisted of male & female entertainment. I had ads in the yellow pages. I had an LLC. I was happy booking parties, and fun for my friends. I started in 2001. I was introduced to TER by a good friend in 2005. He wrote me my first review, but was banned, so the review was deleted. It took me several years to make the transition from an agency Escort to an Independent companion it’s totally different. Working for an agency GFE is not the business. As an independent provider you must provide an open menu that consists of GFE & PSE to be successful here on TER. When I started I provided everything covered. No BBBJ, no kissing, no GFE. Now, when I read my old reviews I laugh because I have grown tremendously as a provider over the last 2 decades.

I'm  Angєℓina   Jonєs,   an  "Independent"   Model,  Companion,
and  Virtual-SW   import   from  Spain.

but with the following statement, I think you destroyed your credibility, as it’s simply not true:

Not to mention ...

My preference is for solo practitioners.  

GFE is good enough to be successful. PSE is absolutely not necessary.

In order to get a high score you need to offer kissing, BBBJ, FS, etc., so how can one be highly successful and rated on TER without offering GFE, or PSE?

I definitely believe in finding wonderful independent providers rather than use an agency.  Much like I enjoy independent restaurants and hardly ever go to a chain restaurant.

For what she wants to get paid for her time. Those need to be on the menu.  She wants a higher rate per hour than a lot of independent escorts.  Therefore, value has to be higher.

I am simply sharing my experience working for & running my own escort agency in SD yes you need a permit. If f you work for a kgirl agency your in no need of obeying the law because it’s not the same as a legitimate escort agency.  Link below ⬇️  

Interesting thanks. That's news to me but also seems directed at strip clubs. I personally would be shocked if any SD agencies with only online presence advertising escorts would actually comply with that law. Seems like a very dumb business decision - to announce to the police that you're running an illegal business.

So you are insinuating that the providers charging $800 or more are providing BBFS and possibly anal. The reason being that Covered FS, kissing, BBJs along with well above average looks is not enough to garner those rates.  
Think that is a real stretch but maybe that is what you expectation  level is if and when you would pay that rate.

I disagree. Though I may be swayed to believe this in less populated locations. In Los Angeles, for example, $700, $800, and even $1k are rather normal for higher end providers. And, a number of them may offer PSE, but it’s often an up charge.  And the ones who don’t offer it, they do fine if they are attractive and good providers.  

Replying to both of you.  I've seen some of those higher cost providers.  And most of them are younger, and very open to just about anything.  Sure, there are some smoking hot girls wanting 1-2k and maybe see 1 or 2 people a month.  And don't have regulars.  Because, sure I'll shell that out maybe once to test the waters.  But I'm not going to pay that consistently when I can get more for the same amount from someone just as hot.

A real date for me has to be gfe, involving  bbj,kissing. Pse  sometimes depending on the vibe.

@chunking

I have yet to meet any provider that accepts TER whitelists for screening.

I kinda thought bookers were masquerading as agencies..or is there a huge difference? Is the cut that much different? Do agencies tell you where to go, like it or leave it? Do bookers "help" you set your schedule? I'm sure they both screen, no?
Anyways, are we so sure that the Indie we just saw is really an Indie and not having her strings pulled by someone?
Here, look at the K-Org and C-Orgs, those are agencies, right? And guys flock there.
I never gave this much thought.....till now....Now I'm confused

It seems you are using an antiquated definition of PSE.  20 years ago PSE was used to include BBBJ's and covered anal, but these eventually came to be normal service within GFE, so for the last five years or so, PSE has come to mean BBFS.  (Anal is still a subject for confusion.  I couldn't tell you if covered anal is still considered PSE, or if it has to be bare anal, because I don't take part in that service).  

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Thanks for the clarification. It reinforces my opinion that what you said above about both GFE & PSE being required to be successful on TER was a ridiculous statement.  

Looks like you need to keep track more of your "anonymous" accounts......

How is it an illegal business if your a legitimate escort agency with all your entertainers carrying incall & outcall nude permits?

I do not agree with all the terminology. I don’t really care what the majority of clients here think because they’re not the ones who book me. I have never been a mainstream provider here on TER. It’s funny to me because when I was only a FBSM & BDSM provider I was told GFE was need here on TER to be a successful provider by many of the OG hobbyists. I enjoy the TER boards. I am here for shits & giggles. As a grown ass woman I can respectfully agree to disagree with many of you because you don’t know more, than me when it comes to this lifestyle. Argue with yourself it’s obviously fun to you. I’m off to enjoy life. Smile for me!

Bia is correct. It is legal to hire an escort. In the state of Wisconsin the only city that requires an escort license is Milwaukee, there may be some others that I am not aware of. If you are running an escort agency and a license is required in the city you work then yes, it would be smart to get one, this would make your business legal. In the US you can legally hire an escort to spend time with you, dance for you, or do nude modeling; you can NOT legally offer an escort money for specific sex acts.  
Bia can correct me if I am wrong, but a legal escort agency would then issue 1099 forms for tax purposes to the independent workers.

Bookers/assistants work for YOU
YOU work for an agency (or brothel/massage parlor)
Completely different. If you have a booker you are still completely independent and work with whom you want, when you want. If you work for an agency you *may* have some autonomy as to when you work and who you see, but otherwise not independent.

There are some who list it as an option on their websites. Usually there is  quantity and timeframe. So, you cannot show off your one whitelist from two years ago. But say you have five, and one was within the past year, that would likely pass through any of the providers who allow whitelist as an option. I saw one provider who only required two whitelists and that got me through without having to show anything else.

Providers work for agencies like any other employer. They have rules and expectations when you are hired by them. Agencies will control all of your ads and expect a cut from any booking. You will have set days/hours you work, and days you get off. You may have sick time, vacation, and other benefits that come from working for an emploer.

As has been discussed many times here, there are no fixed definitions for "GFE" and "PSE", however I would never think that PSE includes BBFS.

It does in the AAMP world, eom.

And in the KGirl realm.

I agree fully with you. Porn Star does not necessarily mean BBFS.  Not to say it is not more likely if Porn Star advertised but would strongly believe that if you polled a random list of providers and asked if it meant BBFS is Porn Star Exp. The majority of them would not agree.  
Think some here have an agenda of framing something out of something else.

P4P  is  a  subjective  venture.
My  personal  repertoire  offers  my  paid  Companionship  for  my  time  and  presence  only.

intentionally, I think. If not intentional, you should read my post again. This isn’t about what services you offer, or not. This is about your stating that a provider can’t be successful on TER without offering GFE ***AND*** PSE. That’s what I’m saying was a ridiculous statement.  

Most of the time you are not going to know. I have hired an assistant before and no one was the wiser. Kind of like when I tell gentlemen that most providers are married and/or have children. There is a lot that goes on in the background of this industry that most guys are clueless about.

Well sure, but if it's someone I am a regular with I kind of get a good idea.

I think you’re right, and not just about bookers and assistants, but some agencies as well.  

there will be an upcharge.  

As far as I am concerned.......Providers need to learn to advertise themselves if they want to make more money and have more freedom.