Of course, one might argue that you should not even be doing this until you own that car, but I won't go there ha ha. I have never paid a car note in my life, because it is money I feel should go towards a mortgage...or fkin student loans I can't get out of!

Um yea, using company money to blow on hookers is not smart, but I had just assumed he meant if there were less people to pay, that would be more money for his "personal salary" that he takes each month. We need a CPA..I think we have one right here lol.

Cpa knows that of which he speaks...  That said, I'll take a hottie over a lazy complainer any time.  Having a job is a privilege, and if you're lazy you should be fired.  That goes for working girls too.  So, I'm not sure what I'm saying except I don't like lazy complainers and I do like sex.  Which is why I'm here and btw, why I'm the boss.  I think.  Read what CPA said, he knows.

CPA, make a list of people I should layoff, I'm going out for a message.  Have their last paychecks and release letters ready to sign when I get back.  Thx

it is interesting how many foks take a simple question like this and try to turn it as a negative against the OP. that is the way of internet boards. ask a speculative question and folks tend to make it all about you rather than actually answer. i knew that going in. SO..... with that in mind.

i don't need any moral education here. if this were a problem for me, i would take a pay cut and cut out the hobby and other luxury items to keep someone else employed. i certainly don't need advice from a board to do that. so IF this were a problem with me it's already dealt with.

what i asked about was what the client reader would do? what the provider would think? few actually answered the question as posed. i thank those few for your responses.

I would never do that.

One could simply reduce one's own salary. Or is that too foreign a concept?

but i agree with your sentiment. i was just wondering how many folks were on which side, publicly at any rate. that's all. nothing personal.

This really isn't an uncommon dilemma that many business owners have had to face at some point in a businesses life cycle.

But honestly, even as I could tell an owner that by doing what it is he wants...I can usually know within a few months of when the liquidation...or BK would commence.

It's often easier to see trends..apply stats and see how things will look...especially when one is not emotionally involved.

And unfortunately too often I have been brought in at the end of a cycle...only to be an expert witness on the embezzlements of an owner now being prosecuted by creditors.  Why they needed to steal?  Perhaps to continue fucking PYT's?

More often it was to try and maintain a lifestyle that wasn't sustainable  LOL

"Should one fire employees, to keep hobbying?" Those were your words, not anyone else's so you got the response that was directed at what you proposed. I don't know if it was you in the example or anyone else, and I don't much care. The premise is the very same. If one had a choice between firing guys with mouths to feed so he could get more p*ssy," I would say no don't do it.

Discussing fees is NOT appropriate.

I might get offended  

I am not where I am at because I was paying to see escorts before my career. I had to make a lot of sacrifices, and I mean a lot of sacrifices to get where I am at. In the past, I had to endure a lot, and money wasn't always around for me to splurge. So, I know the importance of saving and budgeting.

When I was in school, my friends were off going to parties, drinking, and having fun, which I was in the library studying most of the times. When I decided to buy a house, a car, or any other properties, I had to make sacrifices in order to achieve these properties.

I didn't started hobbbying until about a little over a year or so ago, and only after I have achieved everything I wanted to achieve. After I had done that, then I decided it was time to relax and enjoy. I can only relax and enjoy only after I have achieved a certain level of security.

So, to answer your question, if I had to budget myself, then I would definitely not see providers. If I did see providers while I had to budget, then I would be addicted to this hobby. Addiction causes financial burden, to which I want to avoid. Besides, I can always get pussy in my personal life. It may not be with the girl I like, or she may not look like a model, but I can still get pussy in my personal life. Its just the drama and strings I want to avoid. Its always been about that cash before that ass, or business before pleasure.

Guys come and go and the reasons why are rarely mentioned. If he mentioned that he was not seeing me anymore because of financial woes, I would simply bid him farewell and wish him luck. If he posed your question and expected me to answer that, well, I would say do what you have to do, you're the one who has to live with himself.

What you choose to decide to do with your discretionary income is none of my business, so whether it be on pussy, cars, or homes, I could care less.

My only answer was whether you could easily downside and upsize the headcount quickly.

i said:

"let's say tough times hit. your profits are tanking. you have a choice: lay off some workers or cut back on hobbying."

i never said who was considering this. You ASSumed it referred to myself. Or can you not read a question as referring to an abstract situation? Can't you read the difference between "your" and "my"? i guess not. London's always right even when she's dead wrong though.

only and idiot would actually do this. changing headcount for this reason, trying to make adjustments that quickly, well.... i think we'd agree it's damn stupid?

I never said it was about me. I used "you" and "your" in my post specifically to ask what "you" would do.

BTW i neither own nor run a business. i do know people who do.

IF IT WAS ABOUT YOU IN THE EXAMPLE OR NOT! Go back and check your damn reading! Did you get that? So, your question is still the freakin same. Cut back on your pussy supply or lay guys off... I don't much care what you do or what anyone else does. I said what I would do.

I never assumed a damn thing..said I did not know one way or the other. I answered your faux story with a straight up response, not assuming anything about anyone. But, since you did not get that here it is...ANY person who fires hard working people JUST BECAUSE he wants to hobby, is a total fktard!

Now, if he does so because of business related reasons not having to do with his own SELFISH bs, that is another thing, which I really can't speak about.

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"I stuck to the question he actually asked, which was about laying off employees so he could do more hobbying. I would argue that Real Estate is an asset too. Though it is not a "need" it certainly is an investment. P*ssy is not. It does not up your net worth so that in the future you can actually pay more to those who work for you."

so my reading is quite all right. it is clear you are referring to the OP (me) as "he".

the reading problem is yours. own it or not. i don't care.

GO look at MY post where I said, I flat out did not know if YOU were the one in the story or not, and that should clear it up. Don't bother...I have linked it!

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=541119&boardID=12&page=1#541119

It is a bit hard to address a person when they are being cryptic.. If I used the words "you" and "he" maybe it's because I did not feel like putting Mr. X in the place, and by your OP, I am sure others don't have a clue who you are talking about either. You did not say one way or the other, so expect assumptiions unless you spell it out.

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thanks. for all i posted, after all, i might have been the one laid off.

yes, the weather was interesting. i was out in it and saw a long, slinky funnel.  so, here i sit, reading and writing too much.... cheers

The fact that you posted is, says you are asking an opinion. If it was not
for yourself you should have stated it is not you but you didn't ....  

Sounds to me like you are concerned about finances. I think more people on here
have told you maybe what you did not expect?

Whoever you are talking about the feedback is the same. A  prick will pull an employee for his own selfish concerns.

Take it as you which but take it as your feedback  quoted and served up .  
I guess we'll just have to see how many more reviews show up written by you
to see if maybe some men were "laid off" ?

Posted By: Claudius42310

i said:

"let's say tough times hit. your profits are tanking. you have a choice: lay off some workers or cut back on hobbying."

i never said who was considering this. You ASSumed it referred to myself. Or can you not read a question as referring to an abstract situation? Can't you read the difference between "your" and "my"? i guess not. London's always right even when she's dead wrong though.

oh, i certainly did ask for opinions. but there is a difference between asking for opinions and asking for advice.

as to my expectations..... i expected most folks to disapprove of the idea of laying folks off to feed thier luxuries and habits. i even expected a few folks to mistakenly assume i was talking about myself. the only surprise for me was how many did so.

now what was REALLY interesting to me was who backed off when i clarified and who insisted on trying to paint me as the hypothetical SOB i described. THAT was revelatory.

now as for future review count... you aren't going to be able to tell anything one way or the other. i have always preferred to repeat with folks i find reliably pleasant. so i don't do a lot of reviews. i suppose you could try to find if i've been seeing anyone recently by appealing to the Provider Only board. i would hope you wouldn't find anything one way or the other that way either. i tend to prefer to spend timewith folks whose business ethics are trustable: if i'm out of the game, they won't say; if i'm in the game, they won't say.

but your logic in assuming that if i did write more reviews it would mean i laid someone off.... well, it is simply completely defective. furthermore your implication is insulting, since upthread i posted that i am not in a position of power to do that.

no just a gol darn minuto

why can't we talk about hooker fleas?

oops. sorry. misread. fees not fleas.... carry on.

Go down further if you want to see further proof of her misquoting and then pushing a bad position and argument.

She says the going rate for providers in NYC is well above $500/hour.  Which is wrong.

She also says that she charges $800 for TWO HOURS.  With her looks and reviews, she should be cleaning up here, right?  And I offered to pay for one night of hotel here, without seeing her (so she gets it for free).

If $500/hour is low, and you charge effectively $400/hour, and you have LR's looks, shouldn't you be over here cleaning the fuck up right now?  I mean, that's what logic and the math tells you.  I'm sure everyone in NYC wants a hot busty southern blonde, even if she is opinionated as all get-out.

This, my friend, is what we call making a market in trading.  When a guy says my offer is too high, I tell him that I will make him a market.  I will tell him where I will buy and sell the same security, and if he owns the same security, he will be obligated to do a trade with me.  Either he buys my security at my offer price, or he sells me his at my bid price.  Or he makes me a tighter market.

In layman's terms, it's called, "I just called you out.  Whatcha gonna do?"

And in LR's case, the answer will probably be...a whole lotta nothing.

So you didn't read his question very carefully, either.

He only asked the guys what they would do.  He didn't ask the girls what they would do.  He only asked the girls what they thought of guys who did this.

In other words, he doesn't care for your opinion about what he should do, business wise.  He only cares about what you think of those guys.  So read it more carefully, you know.

You did, however, answer the women's part.  You just didn't read that he didn't care about what you would do, business-wise.

she'll say any ole thing just to "be right" or pretend.

i think your analysis of the NYC market is about right from the data you present. you've got a small sample but i would guess you cant be more than 10-20% off.

my guess is that, as you say, LR will either answer with a whole lot of nothing OR invent a whole new copyrighted and patented "LR addition table" so she can "be right".

have fun with your arbitrage!

I don't have a problem being called out or being wrong, or being shamed entirely on this board if I am dead wrong.  That's life, and sometimes the low tide comes in and you see me standing there without a swimsuit.  That's fine.  

But LR is unable to keep the arguments/discussions to the issues, and then has to resort to insults about me, my career, and even (for fuck's sake) my ATF provider.  Really?  That's the mark of a desperate person who cannot defend his/her position simply with facts.  She could have said..."Look, I am basing my statistics on the TER Top 100 and Eros.  What are you basing yours on?"  Instead, it's, "You fucking moron fucktard.  Look at TER Top 100 and Eros.  I thought you were out running errands.  Obviously you have nothing else to do on a Saturday.  You're a loser, and your career is a joke..."  You know, that kinda stuff.

Now, at first, I was gonna go through all 475 Eros ads in NYC to get an average rate, but after looking at the first 20, I realized that this was fruitless.  These were asking prices, and not transaction prices.  Furthermore, Eros costs a bunch to advertise, and no rational girl is going to bury her ad among 475 others in order to hope she gets a hit, especially if the going rate is $500/hour here.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.  But you don't need to get personal, as she did with me.  But that's what you think you're entitled to, when you're queen of the board.

She also said similarly crazy things, like making a whole comment about the UES as a whole.  Or saying that she would only be living in NYC with a 2000 sq. ft. place (yeah, how many of those exist?).  Or that $5k/month won't get you shit, without specifying whether she meant one-bedroom, two-bedroom, doorman, location, etc.

I mean...she really, truly knows nothing about NYC, and even after undressing her on the board, she still maintained her stance.  She said $500/hour is low and way off.  She charges $800 for two hours, which is effectively $400/hour.  Look at her reviews; she has stellar ones.  Look at her site; she is very appealing.  And I offered to pick up one night's hotel here.  So why isn't she here, killing it?  Because she knows the economics aren't there.

I don't have any issue with her personally, but if you are gonna argue, stick with the issues and the facts, for God's sake.

And not every post has to tell you to fuck off, that you're a loser, or that you're a fucking idiot.  If your point is strong enough on the issues that you talk about, that part is tacit.

Whatever Karma means to you.

Western interpretation of the Sanskrit Word Karma is not only wrong but completely absurd. The word is mostly associated with bad things happening for doing bad things which completely wrong.

Karma actually mean selfless work, more clearly, do what you without expecting nothing in return. Expanded a burt more, do your duty and results will come whatever it may be. In Vedic philosophy where the word originated 10,000 years ago, it is way of achieving ‘nirvana’ by getting rid of ego, and attachment, and learning to see everything in the universe equally.

Karma is not euphemism for bad things for doing bad things, it exactly the opposite. By the way, having sex is considered a mans duty to his wife or lover.

There absolutely nothing about monogamy in Vedic Philosophy, it was forced or adopted from the West specifically the Brits by Indians in the 19th century.

The legend is Krishna had 10,000 wives and lovers!!

I guess you missed the fact that I am NOT traveling until October because "I don't have to" lol, or I just might be there. You also have yet to PROVE shit about the rates in NYC, which I have done with actual data that anyone but YOU can add up.  You brought ZERO numbers or stats to the subject...ZERO!

I admitted the numbers I brought were flawed to some degree, but I still gave more actual stats to go by than your "I see utr girls so I know the rate is 500."  You've proved nada, as always. You took 20 providers from a damn ad board of all things, and used that as accurate? Are you kidding me lol.  The average rate for Manhattan is 722.54 jackwad..now, go add that shit up and see what you get. Oh, and thanks for the free ad in NY lol. No wonder you are here all damn day...I have an excuse bwahahaha.


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But back to the question at hand, I faced this just the other day:

Work load was down, and I had two employees who worked on that work load where only one would now suffice, Mary and Jack.  I didn't know which to cut, so I approached Mary and said:  I'm going to have to lay you or Jack off.

She told me she would prefer me to jack off.

(ba-doom)

But seriously folks:

Business decisions are taken for the sake of the business' well being, whether short or long term.

They have little to do with what the owner or manager would like to do, or what they want to do with their money.

I consider valuable employees as assets, so hold on to them for as long as possible, even finding make work for them until something better comes along.

I then hobby with whatever surplus assets I have available.

How or what was said that insulted you? If I were going to insult you I would point out all of your typographical and  errors in your text. If I REALLY REALLY wanted to insult you I'd focus on how
poorly you communicate. Kinda tells me more about you though. Don't take it personally but if you do
want any advise on writing skills and well accepting a critics constructiveness in to get a better definition  what they mean  just ask.

likely so or "fuck you very much"

or perhaps, "what are you smoking and why aren't you sharing?".

nice joke, didn't see it coming. i think i need another cup..... of COFFEE!

i've seen weird decisions by owners who are also involved in the operation of the business. things have been difficult lately, true. butthe responses are sometimes weird.

Jared Diamond in his book "Collapse" discusses cultures under stress. occasionally they do sensible things and adapt to circumstances. often, they just "double down" their bets on dysfunctional waste and optional spending. i've looked at organizations that squeeze the worker bees and and technocrats but preserve expensive "perks" at the executive level that do not add value to product or sales. companies that do that are headed for a richly deserved failure.

as an example: what were the investment banks thinking when they gave out bonuses while taking government bailouts?

OTOH lead by example organizations cut the perks before they dispose of human resources are worthy of loyalty and will hopefully out perform the above SOBs in the market.

the one positive thing to take away from this thread is that when it comes to the hobby, folks at least know what the right thing to say is. i'm kind of pleased, now that i've had time to cool off a little, that the folks who made an assumption that i was asking for advice at least were on the more responsible side of this issue.

frankly, i'm not that good. i'd more likely question whether i could trust doing business with him and not respond so quckly to requests.

Just because some men let their d*ck tell them they will die without it, does not make it a need. Gosh, that is retarded. You will die without food, water, or oxygen, not sex. As if. If your mind is that weak to convince you of that, then it is still not lack of sex causing you to slit your wrist...it is your damn brain and not being able to control your own emotions and urges. That's psychological, not sexual. I know many men and women who have taken a vow of celibacy, and they are not dead lol. Far from it...they are more alive being in control vs. letting their organs control them.

-- Modified on 9/9/2012 4:03:40 PM

Ask a question and you give others fair game to answer it any damn way they want, as you have proven on so many occasions.  If I ask guys a question, women can answer if they so choose...same with the reverse. This is a coed board..duh. Asking them NOT to answer is just stupid, as they will anyway.

My first post flat out gave my answer on what any good person would do. All that other shit where you want to mix words, is irrelevant. I made no assumptions about who he was talking about, but it was easier to use "you" and "he" vs. Mr. X for some strawman we were all talking about. My bad. Forgot I needed to write on a 3rd grade level for some people.

-- Modified on 9/9/2012 3:12:19 PM

A study reports:

"Queens University in Belfast tracked the mortality of about 1,000 middle-aged men over the course of a decade. The study, published in 1997 in the British Medical Journal found that "men who reported the highest frequency of orgasm enjoyed a death rate half that of the laggards". The report also cited other studies to show that having sex even a few times a week may be associated with the following: improved sense of smell; reduced risk of heart disease; weight loss and overall fitness; reduced depression; the relief or lessening of pain; less frequent colds and flu; better bladder control; and better teeth. The report cited a study published by the British Journal of Urology International which indicated that men in their 20s can reduce by a third their chance of getting prostate cancer by ejaculating more than five times a week.[3]"

This is from:

if you tried to insult me about typography you'd fail. i really don't care about typos in a post on an internet board.

as for your communication skills, yes, they are legendary and not in a good way. i assure you i'd look elsewhere for a model or advice!

That was an even more bizarre diatribe from the legend herself  

Recently after contacting a favorite provider I later had to postpone plans for much the same reasons.

 It is humbling enough to realize that you're NOT a natural "Player". It cuts to the fuck'n bone when the economy defines you as a "Loser"

i think i must have missed that one. i'll search for it. i could use some deep shadenfreud-ish guffaws! THX.

I don't see anywhere in that article where it says the lack of "sex" will kill you. You don't need sex to have an orgasm.

having an orgasm is having sex. whether that is with another person, all by oneself, or with an inanimate object is irrelevant. to the question of whether sexis a luxury or a basic biological drive or need.

Gosh, you boys are like 12 year olds at times I swear lol. You can pull up all the bs studies you want, but it does not explain how people can go their entire lives without having sex, and some can't. Weak mind=Weak immune system. Duh. I have spent 7 years in school for Health Care, so I know what sex "can" do for your body and even your mind overall...still, you're deluded to think one will die without it. I would even go as far as to say, it may "prolong" your life, but you're not going to drop dead after five years of celibacy dude...get real.

As HC pointed out, it's the release not the sex with another person, that gives you the same damn result lol. Now, there are studies that prove the human "touch" has healing power, but that does not include getting your balls licked in the process. Please try better next time ha ha.



IF sex is a need to you, that is fine. PAYING for it, won't cause you to drop dead. Go rub one out, have a coke and a smile, and stfu bwahahaha.

-- Modified on 9/10/2012 1:07:26 PM

Guys used to tell women that same line when they were 15 to get them to feel sorry for them. I see some grown men are still trying to use it. It's not a need except for those who can't control their own impulses, urges, and emotions. One might say the same thing about any ADDICTION. It is also rumored that one needs love to live, and I will buy that more than a freakin nut. Show me a person who DIED because of no sex...NOT because of the cancer or other issues he already had...waiting.


Here's some mockery whilst we wait lol.



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it simple. your original statement was that "sex is a luxury". this study show that abstinence from orgasm increases mortality. therefore people who do without sex will die sooner. people who do without food water and shelter also die sooner. so i think it safe to say that sex is a necessity, not a luxury. it is a biological need. now whether that is solo sex or not is really beside the point. your statement was that sex is not a necessity wothout any qualifications.

this refutes your assertion that sex is a luxury quite simply.

it really is funny to watch you try to squirm out of proof that your ideas are simply wrong. it is worth the price of admission. LOL!

Like I said, show me one person who has died from no sex, and you win....

It is in YOUR WEAK mind, that causes your body to respond to such things. I guess if you say this shit over and over, and truly believe you will die without it...you just might. Please, in the words of Journey, "Don't Stop Believing" lol. PAYING for sex IS A LUXURY dear...deal with it.

the study i cited above indicates that those who abstain have a higher mortality rate. therefore your whole assertion that sex is not a need is false. years of health education? where? Bob Jones U? LOL!

but that is NOT what you said. you said a "vow of celibacy" doesn't kill you and the study proves you wrong.

Saying one has a need for sex and that it may prolong life, is NOT the same thing as trying to suggest that OMG if I don't get to see a hooker in a month, I am going to drop dead. We were never talking about biological needs from jump...we were talking about PAYING FOR SEX, which IS a luxury to those who can afford it. Go rub one out already.

You have still YET to show me of one person who DROPPED dead "just because" he went too long without sex. It's funny as fk to watch you be this retarded and uninformed! Your mind is what controls your impulses and sexual urges...obviously, you are too weak to have mastered it or you would already know that. If you allow your MIND to tell your body that you're dying, you just might start to manifest those very signs that make you think so. Psychology 101...you must have missed that.

Why is it "some people" are happy regardless of what is going on around them and others are not? Easy...they have CONTROL over their emotions, unlike you.

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to my satisfaction. that would really be weak minded. the "show me one person" in a case where only statistics can decide is a dishonest aatempt to defend "sex is not a need". statistically it has been shown to be a need so you are proven wrong, period.

of course it is impossible to prove anything to you. i'd never try to prove anything to you. it is just amusing to watch you scam is all. i admire those skills. that you can't control how and when to use them is the sad part.

being consumed lol. Certain diseases and conditions are predisposed in people, that are not in others...THAT is what kills a person. Though sex may "help some people" live longer because of the improvement of certain biological factors, other people are just fine. Prostate Cancer is what it is. Some are going to get it having sex every day, and others won't ever get it. You are trying to take people who already have the possibility of getting a disease, and using having sex as a cure. It simply does not work.

Now, I would really love to sit here all day and play with you little mouse, but really until you show me one person who has died for NO OTHER REASON than not having sex, I think I will hit the tanning bed lol.

There is NOT even ONE case of anyone dying from lack of sex ha ha. Sorry, you lose. People with weak minds do not die from lack of sex honey...their own urges kill them, by being too weak to control them. I have gone 2 solid years without sex of any kind, and it was by far the most peaceful time in my adult life. You're simply not in touch with your own emotions and urges to ever see that you can have control over them, vs. letting them control you. THAT my friend is why people get so many illnesses and diseases they are not even predisposed to get.

-- Modified on 9/10/2012 1:37:33 PM

there are plenty of people who are quite happy without the need to control. the fact that you mistakenly equate control and happiness is more about the deficits in your own character.

i never suggested that paying for sex was not a luxury. you said "sex is not a need". you said celibacy does not cause death.

you are now trying to control this situation so you don't have to acknowledge an error or even an imprecision. you are using every rhetorical means to cover it up. i think you must be a politician.

i just showed that it is a need, which contradicts what you said. LOL!

you have this theory about "weak minds". it isn't. it's about biology. we have evolved to propagate. it is built in as a biological need.

it is a biological need. your "weak mind" theory is just LR bs spin.

altogether...Apples and Oranges. Look around honey..this board is full of people who are convinced they need sex, and will do most anything to get it. Lie, cheat, risk getting AIDS, steal...if that is not letting your emotions control you, I don't know what is. You don't pay hookers for survival so get real..you pay them because it is easy, and to satisfy an urge. Most take your money to pay their bills or feed their kids. Sex is not a need and never will be, but to weak minded people...perception is certainly reality. Sure, I will agree with that. Other than Jesus Christ, food, water, and oxygen, I could live quite happily with nothing else. It is all in what you convince your own mind you are capable of doing...I will leave you to it.

It is also biological for women to ovulate, but we don't drop dead after having our uterus removed! It is biological that women have this inate urge to bear children, yet no woman has died from not being able to. Your argument is 12 year old hs bs, that can't be proven...and you have yet to do so.

Until you do...I can't play anymore. It is a moot issue with zero facts in your favor.

Guess we will see them in the ER free of diseases and guilt too. YOU need sex..ok no problem..not everyone or even every MAN will back you up on that shit. Believe it or not, to some men there is more to life than busting a nut. Where do you think these urges come from honey? They don't start in your pants, but in your damn MIND! Go do some research on the mind and how powerful of a tool it can be, when one knows how to use it properly. Then, you can come back here and tell me that all sexual urges and needs as you say, are all in your pants. Great..thanks.

so i don't have to. higher mortality: need not luxury.

also taking place in the body or not, at the same time. Your argument is retarded...face it. You wil not DIE without sex...ok maybe YOU will, but it's your damn brain that has told you that and you bought it.

Chew on this a bit...I especially love the phrase, "Men need to stop using biological reasons to excuse bad behavior" lol. Saying you will die without sex is about as dumb as saying a fat person will die without a hot fudge sundae. WEAK minds= Weak bodies predisposed for disease.

http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/fight_temptations/index.php

the need to control emotions is a root cause of addiction: people self medicate their emotions to control them with drugs, booze, sex. a better strategy is to simply feel what you feel. as long as you are free to choose what to do with an emotion there is no need to control it.

emotional health is all about freedom and has very little to do with control. i'm sure you learned that in "health" school.

Yep, sex really saved their lives lol. If you want to really get into it honey, sex with multiple partners in the way we operate here, is actually counter productive to your already bs argument ha ha. HPV and any one of the other hundreds of STDs, is what we run the risk of, so saying p4p is saving your life somehow, is comical.

Oh look, here is an article about how drinking coffee can "prolong" your life by 10 percent lol. I guess now if we don't have those two cups, we are all going to drop dead from that? This shit is just too easy. I have to go run and catch that Ice Cream Truck now..you know how us fat girls will DIE without that treat!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57436245-10391704/two-cups-of-coffee-a-day-cuts-overall-risk-of-dying-by-10-percent-research-shows/

"(((Of the participants, about 42,000 drank no coffee. Most people had two or three cups each day, and about 15,000 reported drinking six cups or more a day.


By 2008, about 52,000 of the participants had died. Compared to those who drank no coffee, men who had two or three cups a day were 10 percent less likely to die at any age. For women, it was 13 percent. Even a single cup a day seemed to lower risk by 6 percent))."

Now, in addition to sex, coffee is also a need to prolong life lol. Gosh.

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you said no one would die of celibacy. the study i quoted shows your claim is quite false. you are refuted.

now i have reached the point of diminishing enjoyment at watching you try to squirm your way out of it. i'm starting to feel sorry for the fact that you _don't_ post under an alias. after all your desperate need to silence disagreement with abuse and your inability to admit rationally that you really overstated your case (to put it charitably) can hardly be good for business. it's not a pretty picture.

no wonder you spend so much time on the boards. (the same goes for me.)

BTW whoever is PMing me..... i am not currently VIP so will not respond.

i'm done now. thanks for the exchange. 'til next time. xoxo

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You are so wrong. If I am on a diet honey, I control the urge to eat the shit that my doc said was giving me diabetes. If I am in a relationshiip, I control the urge to go drool over other men. If my child has a gymnastics meet the same day I have a hot date, I control the urge to put my own bs ahead of hers.

If I know I have work at 4 a.m. I control the urge to stay up drinking all night...that's called responsible. SO, by your theory I should go rob a bank because my urge for money got the better of me? I should go out and shoot every person who annoys me? Ha, great advice. Please..keep going. People who don't have some control over their urges are basket cases who end up in jail or dead, and they use "Biology and the Devil" to justify their actions once the consequences catch up with them.

"Feeling" is one thing, but "acting out on" is another. There is nothing wrong with feeling anger, but it is how you act on it, that is the premise here. You're saying people will die because of sexual urges not being met..I call bs. You can "deal" with that in other ways, and more healthy ways too.

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... sex if it makes you feel better about your pointless argument. I don't.

Men want more sex.

And if it is correct that lack of sex shortens a man's life, be responsible for your own life extension and masturbate 3 times a day. Good lord, you'll live to be 110.

I looked at the health benefits and find it a bit funny...better teeth? And unless a guy is banging  away for 30 minutes or more at a heart rate sufficient to cause chemical changes that seems a bit far fetched to me, especially if he's jacking off. Unless he's running on a treadmill as he is jacking off, well then two health and longevity benefits in one. Providing he does not fall and cause a head injury, in which case he might very well die.

So, grab that lotion, unzip and get moving...all in the name of living longer.

I think there should be a study done that women need more spending money to reduce stress caused by husbands who pester them for sex 5 times a week in order to fend off the grim reaper. All those stress hormones can shorten a woman's life expectancy....lol

it's an orgasm that help with better teeth, better sense of smell etc. Which does not require a partner to achieve.

...will do what's necessary to fund that addiction. For guys in the hobby who have addictions...well I guess hookers are like drug dealers....do we make that choice for a grown adult or do we profit from said addiction? I know what I would do.