blue color professionals turn out to be more generous and giving than white color professionals, executive types...

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As to Octavia's query, perhaps it's that Blue Collar Men can relate a bit more to people (women) who have to work hard for a living and want to reward them appropriately, Whereas a lot of White Collar guys, especially in NYC where you live and work, may tend to have an entitled attitude and consider hookers "hired help" not worthy of being appreciated.

We tend to give you what you ask for
You say a donation is X we give you

for a short period of time I can tell you through my experiences with life long white collar (executives, not functionaries) types that they get used to people jumping when they say jump and have an inherent smug sense of entitlement.  Hell, you should be paying them.  LOL.

If they don't see a really good investment or tax write off for a trip etc.
They are not wasting their money.
I can see where Octavia is coming from too.

In my experience, both blue and white collar men have been very generous and giving. The white collar gents do tend to book longer engagements. The longer bookers also tend to be gents who travel to Tampa from out of town for business. But I have received wonderful gifts and ample repeat visits from both colors of collars.

..and how money was viewed/handled when you were growing up that impacts your ultimate spending habits. Blue collar vs white collar jobs are a factor as well, of course, but surely not the only one.

some have great generosity in their hearts, some have none.  

White collar with boots? Oh right Texas. Never mind.  

I was a white collar worker (sorta, I don't even own a tie) in a blue collar industry. Uniform of the day was hard hat, steel toed boots and computer keyboard.
   
A good deal of my working career was in Nevada and that experience, more than the color of my collar, has convinced me the world runs on tokes. Outside of Nevada, I find myself giving what others might consider ill advised tips. There is no such thing as an ill advised tip in Nevada.

That the rich often have a sense of entitlement when it comes to their money.  The psychologists then ran another experiment, in which they had two people play Monopoly.  One was give the usual $200 that starts the game, the other was given $100,000 to start with.  In every case, the person with the $100,000 ran roughshod over the player with less money, showing a snobby sense of entitlement...even in a fucking game.  In other words, Octavia, you're an intelligent woman who has made a correct observation.

but I too tend to drastically over tip for good/great service. Its not uncommon for me to leave a 100% tip at bars and restaurants, or even more when the tab is especially small. If I go to a bar and nurse a beer for an hour because I am not really in the mood to drink, it's not uncommon for me to just leave a twenty for "seat rental".

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sounds like a die hard Bernie Sanders, "hate the rich" kind of guy.

A guy wears a suit and tie to work (or says he does) does not mean he makes more than say a plumber, electrician, steel worker, etc.

Only Academics can get away with this kind on nonsence. I'm trying to think of my white collar days if I went to the boss saying that I used a board game to test a hypothesis. I'd be walking funny because that board game would be shoved up my ass! Now I'm No collar. I don't even own a tie anymore. Can't say I miss it ... Just the bigger paycheck.  

I've been both. I like to believe that I treat blue collar hookers and elite courtesans the same ... with respect and a willingness to share  
a great experience. They all appreciate it and show it in many ways.  

and the white collar is not.

HE fucks ME.

Being stingy and not pissing away their money because they can.

Octavia, think about it .  Because they are blue collar professionals they know that the nature and scope of your  work is physical and they know that you have to prepare physically  and mentally to deal and perform the way that you do.  Thus just like them, they identify with you and empathize with what you are going through. They also know that you value the importance of a dollar and will put the extra effort in to earn it. So in essence you are a lot like them in a lot of ways and they know that you have to work hard for you dollar.  Thus they realize like Donna Summer that you work hard for the money.

As a person who would be considered "white collar" based upon my job, i find this to be slightly offensive.  At best, it is a dramatic over-generalization. I am not "used to getting my way" or having people "jump when i say jump." I find that those types of cliches have their roots in places other than reality.  Just my .02 worth...

thank you for the compliment

the types you just described are inspiration behind this post

i understand your point...but white collar guys also have to slave away in the office to earn the dough by using the brains and a pen ....it is also tiring  

please do not take offense  

As if all blue collar dudes were the same, and so were all white collar dudes.  It's ridiculous.

But think about it Octavia it is not as physical as a white collar guy.  When they come home they are kaput.  That is why they really savor and enjoy the time with you.

I grew up blue collar  and spent most of my life blue, Now I am white collar and I treat people the same if not better. Never forget your roots.

when I pay anyone hourly rates of $400, $500, or more and usually multi-hour, I do not believe it is appropriate to tip even one cent. Not because I resent the rates, but because I believe those rates have been set to provide a good net profit. In contrast I tend to tip 20% or higher to people in service industries where traditionally their employment assumes that part of their remuneration will be in tips. And when I use an Uber, I tip even higher and in cash because those folk are being fucked more than I.

really think that we all bring a lot of baggage into what shapes our world views. And I think a lot of people have a lot of baggage around money- ranging from self esteem issues to outright discrimination. It's hard to see past the baggage to be able to view someone as purely an individual in front of you. Often that baggage makes people feel slighted around people with money, even if no slight has occurred.  

Hasn't anyone here besides me ever tipped a professional charging hundreds of dollars an hour that was not a hooker.

Sadly, I've never been too impressed the few times I did hire a lawyer for one thing or another.

Just my opinion, but  "tipping" an attorney is tacky.  Sending him/her a nice gift at Christmas (especially if there is an ongoing relationship) is classy.  Tipping implies that you believe one has gone above and beyond and has provided optimal service.  Attorneys, in general, do not think that way in that they ALWAYS are under an obligation to provide exemplary service as that is embedded in the Code of Professional Responsibility.  My guess is your gesture was viewed more like a "thank you" gesture rather than a tip

remember that case you won for me when a certain welsher tried to sue me for defamation?

Papa Smurf's got 'em.

He did a job, he did it well and I gave him a bit extra to show my appreciation.

I feel I am generous,  
That said, I was a blue "color", now I guess I am considered white!

You gave him a win bonus, not a tip. Let's say his fee was a measly $20 grand. So that means your $500 tip was 2 1/2 %. So if you see a lady for two hours at $800 total, do you tip her $20?

I do it if and when I choose to, personally I don't give even a single fuck if anyone else does it the way I do.

Seems like you just did, twist yourself into a pretzel that is, with this post.  No need to get defensive...just a free exchange of friendly ideas...

that can double bill the same hour (unless there is a lot more MFM going on than I think there is)

but the fact is you have paid over and above what you were actually charged by "professionals" who charged on a per hour basis roughly the same as is normal for independent sex workers.

must have worded it poorly.

Yes, you and I do seem to be on the same page.

i am not talking about tipping
just general demeanor  

This topic seems to come up from time to time and I always find it interesting that so many claim that “tipping” a professional  is strange.  I do it all the time and I know most of the pros I use personally, many are friends and they appreciate the extra cash/trips/dinners and more. No one is insulted.  

wouldn't that now qualify as a gang "bang"

well, I'm just a southern redneck boy with a little bit of education, stuck down here in Hilton Head.  Yes, I know it's not Manhattan, LA, or Chicago, but we get our fair share of retired upper level executive types and my experience with them is as I described it, and that is reality, not a cliche.