I'm curious to know how frequently women find a man that is HAPPY to get to know you for about 1/2hr prior to moving on to 4th base.

I'm new, but wondering if the thought of this is rare or even unrealistic.

Thanks in advance for any feedback!

All of my clients do. In fact its part of the screening process to meet in public first before i take them to my private quarters. It also allows them to relax a little and ads to the flirting.

thats just me though i understand a lot of gentleman's worries about being seen in public wiht a young woman

I prefer 2hr sessions, or dinner + 2.  With a familiar friend I like overnights though can't always afford or arrange them.

Just as there are many different categories of providers there are different groups of clients who have different preferences.  The 1 hr preferred guys are probably the most common but are not the only group represented here.

For me it is too much of a risk. I will do 2-hr dates with a lady I have seen before and know we get along. For some dates, even 1hr was pushing it.

So I do love the 2-hr date with the right girl, but a blind date for 2 hrs? That's a big gamble I usually am unwilling to take.

Now if you offered a refund after 5-10 minutes if it was clear there was no chemistry, I would take that risk.

I have actually seen girls' ads offer a brief introduction with a "no-fault" cancellation clause. Gutsy.

-tessen

and only charging them the 1 hour rate.  The first half hour, was truly for me, and I expressed that I needed that time to get to know someone new.

I literally turn my back, to turn around and get a chilled water out of the ice bucket and the guy is naked and has me naked in about a half a second.

He proceed to pound me non stop for the next hour and half.

NEVER EVER EVER, will I do a "get to know" you pro bono.

Learned my lesson.

9 out of 10 of my encounters are 2hr dates with chit-chat for the first 1/2 hour

I think I'm the first responder, but I am noderated so you'll see this much later.

I am such a guy. My handle does not refer to the length of appt I like. For me, a conversation is very stimulating. I like taking in everything about a women, including her movements, facial expression, tone and timber or her voice, the things she likes to talk about, the word she chooses. I especially like to sense all of her femininity and sexiness while she is fully clothed. Those subtle stimulators build such tension and excitement that when the fun begins (I like that to build as well) it is all the more exciting.

However, like most hobbyists, I have had to cut way back on by budget which leaves me in a predicament. While I prefer quality (longer session) over quantity (more sessions) my little partner is rebelling due to the lack of frequency.

I am actually considering booking a 30 min (aaaarrrgghh!) with a provider I've seen before to make junior partner happy.

Sadly, then my handle will describe by booking time. I'm not sure I can live with that.

See the next thread below.

I like to know the ladies, especially the ones I might want to see again. However, I wouldn't call a half hour intro to a 2 hour session "truly" getting to know his companion.

Personally, I like the mysteries involved with getting hot first and THEN chatting during a breather and afterwards.

That's my preference. Others will vary.

I doubt you'll find one guy who wouldn't prefer two hours instead of one. Paying for two is where the problem is.

If you price the 2nd hour accordingly, maybe at 1/2 the 1st, or offer 80 minutes for not much more than 60, you'll definitely be booking longer perties.

All that said, I do thing most would prefer to ease into things.

We actually agree on something.  I would love to spend all kinds of time getting to know a pretty young thing on many levels.  Am I going to pay twice as much for the honor?  Not a chance.

I typically book for an hour.  If a lady isn't OK with that, someone else will be.  If I enjoy myself, I'll see her again.  Perhaps that will be for a longer period of time; perhaps not.

Stranger things have happened.

But perhaps you didn't explain it as clearly as you thought? But if you did, I wouldn't let one energizer bunny with comprehension problems force you to totally throw away what I think is a pretty good idea.

Maybe you just have to be a little more clear about the 1st 1/2 hour being on you for getting to know eachother over wine and small talk purposes only. If they'd prefer to just get to it, then it's a one hour session. 90% of guys are gonna be good with the former.

That's what I love about this business! Everyone can screen how they want and set whatever requirements that they want to attract the guy that they want.

It's really hard not to feel guilty as my list of requirements get longer and longer....particularly because I'm still transferring out of the Jail Mindset (aka Corporate Mindset).

Never the less, I will find what works best for me in terms of weeding out the guys I don't want to see. Not that I'm against one hour guys, just can tell by who I am as a person that the "getting to know" phase is key. That part of me isn't going to change just because I'm seeking $$.

The first time I saw your alias, I thought....wow what an ass! (I assumed you only do half hours, no exceptions). I see I'm wrong though lol.

Absolute majority of my dates are 2-4h.

In some cases (visits outside of NYC and couples dates) I actually have 2-3h minimum.

I think it depends on what you have to offer, what market segment you are pursuing and how you structure your rates.

Lina

or find one of my ex-wives or girlfriends to talk to.
I don't pay providers to shoot the breeze.
If you wanted to chat on the phone that could be arranged, but I am not going to pay you for it.

If a hobbyist is going to pay for a two hour session, there will probably be time in between cups for a little verbal chatter.

Take it from ole ego_check. You don't want the reputation of being a chatterbox

rate!  I won't waste my time with a lady who prefers a 2 hr min, and charges 1K for it.  I don't want to know her that bad, I don't even want to fuck her that bad!  As mentioned above, everyone would love to spend the time, paying for it is the problem.
There are a lot of really great ladies out there that can show you a great time for two hours, and not cost you the mortgage payment.  You just have to look a little harder.  For the variety lovers out there I guess it makes sense to spend $300/hr on 2 1 hr dates, than to spend $500/$550 on 1 2 hr date.  Many tier their prices to attract longer dates, and it's something I look for rather than the flat rate.
The perfect set up for me is 1.5 hr, but that is, for some reason, not popular with a lot of providers.
But in answer to your question, ya there are guys who like to do that(at least one that I know of).
Those who get on this board, talk about "chemistry" or a "connection" while doing nothing but 1/2 hr or one hr dates are just walking BullShit!  No you won't totally know the other person in a 1/2 hr prior to commencment of further activities.  However, unless you are a totally backward wallflower, it's a good icebreaker, and lead in to the festivities to follow  

I have seen several clients, especially those who travel a lot, that schedule extended dates so we can get comfortable with each other before we move on to other stuff. They enjoy the company for the extra hour or so.
Others want to get straight to business and that is great too. Eveeryone has different needs and expectations. part of being a successfull provider is learning to cater to those different needs.

It has been a very very long time.

Maybe you should serve some fruit and wine as opposed to water. I assume that it was bottled at least.

Oh, Sorry about the pounding. No provider should have to take that kind of sexual marathon unless they enjoy it

I get this on a pretty regular basis.  These gentlemen are looking for a certain experience tht requires more than just an hour.  Some also want experiences that take longer time, for others, the experience they are looking for takes an hour or less.

And once again, for no good reason. You just don't seem to allow for context. No way to treat a future best bud.

While not having a tremendous amount of experience in the hobby, I have only done 1 1/2 or 2+ hour dates.

I cannot see how 1 hour is nearly enough!!!!!

yep

Donation has something to with it. Charge what you may but sometimes donation for 2 hrs doesn't make sense. I stay from those because they are already Math challenged and there is nothing to get to know.

Too much flash results in kill joy!

With civvies, especially ladies that live in my town I would rather get to know her before we have sex,and if we enjoy each others company we usually talk a lot on numerous dates before any play time.Sometimes as many as ten dates.Usually in my experience if it doesn't happen by then its not going to happen however  there have been rare exceptions. I usually like a minimum of four dates before the main act as the sex has more real passion, tends to last longer, and usually a  better chance of repeat..  
With providers I am renting her time and I like to get with the program when I walk in the door.
Normally with providers as long as I leave the correct donation and I "act' polite, she will see me again, even if I ask her to get on her knees within the first two minutes of our meeting
Just one more reason I  read TER reviews ..I don't want to ask providers to do anything they aren't comfortable with.

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Some men simply enjoy taking their time.

Xoxo.

or anyone else for that matter.

According to my unscientific empirical data, the most desired length of an appointment (from men's perspective) distribution:

1/2 hr: 30%
1 hr: 60%
2 hrs: 4%
2+ hrs: 6%

That's the demand side of the story (90% of men want 1 hour or less).  With that said, 2-hour minimum requirement does not make much sense (they do exist, just not sensible).

I prefer two hours but the finances don't always allow.

some refreshments and beverages.  As it was, I was NOT the one that was hosting, and water was the only available beverage.  Yes, at least it was an unopened bottle of water.

Yeah, I've heard that saying too!

I've actually had providers comment with the same things in mind. One said something like "seeing your handle I don't think we would get along to well." LOL!

I am the furthest thing from a wham-bam-thank-you-mam sort of fellow.

Let's just say the name is related to the amount of time (minimum)that I like to focus on my partner's enjoyment (before mine.)

Money isn't the issue (although I don't like the idea of paying for too much chit-chat), but time is. One time during a 2 hour date I got 14 phone calls and people were about to call the cops to try to track me down, so I've done mostly 1 hour dates since then. I prefer 1 hour dates now.

That is an awesome idea! (The get to know you part, not the naked in a half asecond part.)

Too bad some caveman had to ruin it.

Since then its been 2 hour minimums.  My personal preference is to have a more laid back atmosphere that lends itself to an experience that is not completely about the physical.  I enjoy a beautiful woman that is capable of being "sexy" with her clothes on.  

The perfect date is a lady that knows how to stroke more than my c***.  This may be a reason I have not frequented the PYT category as they be less likely to have what I am seeking.

To each his own, but this is what floats my boat.

Book for 90 mins, chat for an hour then 30 minutes of easy sex. LOL

Usually, I get to charge people for chatting with them; but for a nice lady like you I'd do that pro bono. (*grin*)

As a matter of fact, I insist on talking before we meet anyway. For the same reasons.

I like to be comfortable, also, and anything that puts you at ease I'm all for.

Now, I'll admit, I have gotten too close and things went to hell. So, I need to tweak my approach somewhat.

Dig the post, though. Thank you.

I generally travel a ways to do my playing, so I definitely want to spend more time with the lady.  1.5 is my minimum, 2 hours is better and 3 hours is best.  I know it makes me more comfortable
to have some chit chat time first.  

However, I don't know about spending the first 30 minutes just talking.  After all, how well do we really want to know each other??

TH

None of those fucking ladies will fucking admit they even know your fucking ass!!!  LMAO  

I've found that I rarely need more than 60 minutes to consummate a relationship. Don't get me wrong, I love the women and admire how hard they work to make us happy, but my view of this is more industrial than most.

All of my dates so far have been 2+ hours.  Not quite comfortable yet with "Hi, nice to meet you.  Legs in the air, please."



Usually I ask if she can suggest something she'd like to drink, so we can break the ice before the games begin.

Care to expand on that?

I got close with one especially. Went to be with her this weekend. Went to hell.

Don't know who you are Funcooker69, but I've been on here awhile and I'm a raging alcoholic.

Don't know what she expected when I showed up, but I was drunk. It got ugly. Fast. Words were spoken, and I left. Didn't even give her the chance to drop me off so my dog could pick me up. I just picked up my shit and walked.

Am I proud of myself? Absolutely not. But it's much more deep-rooted than that. But I accept the blame, as I have, since I realized I have this disease.

That work for you?

Its really not just about the money, its about good service. How are we to truly satisfy our dates mentally and physically in an hour or less? We'd have to have some major skills...and me being miss rookie over here....I ain't got it yet! I want my date to leave with a smile as big as....I can't think of a good example, but you get where I'm going...and he needs to be so drained from the boat rocking that he just goes home and zzzZZZzzzZZZ.

You see, we do have more goals than just opening the envelope. We want a good time too! We want a connection too! We want to sincerely hope for the next call too! Well I do anyway. Can't get that if all we see is a bat and ball and pubic hair and a scrunched up moaning face while we are together.

Anywho, would like to say thank you to the 2Hr men that spoke up here today. You made a gal feel good about her wishes Also thank you for the testimonials from the providers who regularly get 2hr dates. I will be stalking your pages to see if I'm on the same path.

spurts of activity.
Also the dinner date is very common.
So, yes.. I don't know if the precursor interlude is really to 'get to know me'.. but more to set up a vibe and a 'real' date type scenario.

Plus, women are people.  It truly seems the MAJORITY wants to get to know me at least a little as an idividual.  But sometimes it backfired cuz I get to know too much about them as individuals and its an ender. haha   *hey, that is mostly a JOKE*

SO,, not sure if the exact time amount is the factor here.  BUT absolutely most men want to talk and vibe and 'get to know' a girl. and YES men get extended hour dates..  

Why didn't you tell him to stop if it was uncomfortable? I mean at least a break here and there. You can't blame him if you let him go non stop.

You do have control over this type of thing you know.

Obviously, you didn't notice that the entire thread was taken down, not just your post, and for what it's worth perhaps neither LP nor I were the ones that took it down??? There is a third possibility that you are not taking into consideration.

I truly love the ladies. Getting to know one is half the fun. And yes I always try for a 2hr or longer time. But many ladies just are not interested. They are more interested in the wam bam let get it over so I can get paid.

So considering this is a business for the ladies what motivation does a lady have to get to know a guy?

I typically only hobby once or twice a quarter, so I am usually interested in the quality of the entire experience rather than the "total mileage" of one.  I almost always book a 90 min (if offered) or 2 hr. appointment so that I CAN have some "get to know you time" up front and a little pillow talk time during and/or after.

I've had a 1.5 to two hour minimum for a couple of years now, and I'm still doing okay.

However, I would have run into a lot more difficulty finding clients willing to take the risk of meeting for longer than an hour when I was basically an unknown. It wouldn't have been impossible, but for a while I was struggling just to find clients who would risk even an hour. They are putting their money, time, and even physical safety at stake when seeing someone who isn't established, and that risk only increases with a longer date.

So, if it's really important to you to have a two hour minimum, hang in there and stay firm on it. If your marketing is strong, business will come, but it might take longer. If it's more important for you to build a name for yourself and have steady business *now*, there's nothing wrong with an hour (or 90 minutes). And it doesn't mean conversation is ruled out altogether; while it was definitely a lot more rushed, you can bet I spent time talking and getting to know people even on my one hour dates.

I guess I'd have known that if I'd have gone so far as to look.  The last couple days I've been on a denial binge, so I just figured I was guilty.

My motivation to get to know the men I meet are that they're usually interesting people. Usually. Actually, so far the only clients I've met who aren't at all interesting to talk with are those who consider conversation something to get over and done as fast as possible. To each his own, but that's just not my style. I'm decidedly an introvert, but at the same time I really, really enjoy meeting people and catching up with those I've met before.

But everyone is different -- ladies included. There are many out there for whom talking with clients is neither their strong point or even something they'll engage in unless they have to; there are simply other things they're better at or more inclined to spend the time doing. To each her own.

There aren't a lot of activities in this realm you can safely discuss ahead of time, but the nice thing about wanting to spend time getting to know a lady is that it's something you can ask for up front.

I'm pretty new to all this so it's good to read about peoples mistakes and try and avoid making them myself. Thanks for the reply.

I'm absolutely fascinated by people, the uniqueness of each and everybody, and each and every body.  One of the great pleasures of this work is the opportunity to meet so many individuals that I would never otherwise cross paths with.

Aside of the general delight I hold in watching an individual unfold in front of my eyes (and under my fingertips!), I love when my own energy can smolders into a fire.  Passion is much more fun to play with than the mechanics of how two can connect.

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Thanks Carrie! I'm trying to build a name for myself now, so I know a 2hr date isn't going to come easy. I'm not THAT hot lol.

Patience patience, but like when you started I'm just waiting to get regular 1hr dates! Don't want to do 1/2s but may have to...

Maybe she expected you’d show up & act like a gentleman…..sober, clean, shaven & charming, and not a belligerent, narcissistic drunk like you are on the boards.
Just because she & others know you’re a raging alcoholic, doesn’t mean she or they have to put up with your behavior.

Next time, do all the providers a favor, and only schedule 1 hr. appointments, or better yet, when you’re a raging drunk, NCNS, she will be grateful to you for that. Ain’t this Hobby supposed to be fun? At the very least, don’t mix alcohol w/pussy, you (and especially her) will have a much more enjoyable sensory sensual time.

Yes, it’s a disease, and I’m sorry you have it, but it is a controllable disease.

I second this about---Good service.

Seems to me that 2hr dates with me,just fly by.
It's a great way to enjoy someones company---without the rush feeling.

Since I don't play often, it feels like going out on a date. Verses feeling likes it's work. Main reason I LOVE outcalls.

Maybe it's just me- But I love and appreciate the gents that seek this. Time is important these days.

Besides being discrete.
oxox
Viv

WHILE NAKED!!! I like two hour dates yes. I won't allow myself to be schmoozed into one or mandated. I'm NOT going to talk with you unless you periodically stick your tongue down my throat.

You're teetering on unrealistic. You're a provider;PROVIDE. Maybe follow a lead.

I prefer 2 hour minimum as well. Maybe because I am not doing it every couple of weeks like some. But to each their own. But it does take a bit of research at times. One of my favorites was a lucky find, no reviews - at least that I could find, but quite a few ads placed here and other sites. Took a while for me to contact her - spent some time reading posts on her blog etc. Then took the plunge for 2 hours. I was lucky as I found a gem and see her regularly -but I agree sometimes a risky. I prefer the longer meetings because I do enjoy conversation etc instead of just rushing into it.

In a word, yes.  When I can afford the time and $.  Of course, I'm a relative newbie, so take that for what it's worth.  When I'm "shopping" and "doing my research", I definitely check the 1.5 and 2 hour rates.

Come on, now. I would hope you wouldn't be so capricious about it all. If a post is truly in violation, don't allow it. But please prudent about it. Being modded sucks enough as is.

It wasnt the 1.5 hours of pounding and going non stop that I was complaining about.

But thanks for pointing out to me, that "I do have control over this type of thing.." because that would have never occurred to me.

Yeah, that type of guy needs to be sent back to his momma and learn some manners.  Treat woman like nothing more than a sex toy, and that's all you have.  Treat her like a woman, and she'll blow your mind.