I am contemplating a website, password protected. I just don't have the time to put the presentation together to a tee. Do I really need one? Will it add any value to my current busy schedule? Do you guys prefer a gorgeous muse with a website or does it even matter?

In anticipation of your good and bad responses..

The one and only

Zoe Piers.

...you can't link it on TER. And I don't think TER will approve it...

If you click on Message Board Policies, you can find this discussed there..

Also, Thanks for not linking your AD to the message...


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but to password protect it makes no sense.

Get lots of great, professionally done photos on it.

Give us your rate info, screening requirements, how to contact you, and any other nuts and bolts things a prospective client would need to know.  And for god's sake tell us where you are located.  (You wouldn't believe how many sites leave off the little detail.  Remember the internet goes across the world.  And don't give us a location like "Beaver County".  There could be a hundred such places across the USA.)

Make it easy to read.  No light pink type on a black background please.  Make the type nice and large, and proof read the hell out of it.  Make it professional.

Finally, make it easy to navigate and nix on the flash and the music.  We don't care for it.

I think that's just about everything.

One more thing:  remember the interactive TER logo on the first page.

Hey Zoey,

I prefer that providers have websites. The big reason is to have the provider give details about their services, rates and other important information that would help the hobbyist decide if you are the best fit or not.

Just my 3 cents...

sunrosc

My first Hooker Sensei told me:

"Baby, all you need is 3 pictures, a phone number and a rate.  Maybe an email"

Over the years he watched me labor hundreds of hours over my website which I personally design.

With every version:

"Baby, you're doing way too much.  All you need is 3 pictures, a phone number and a rate.  The front, the back the side, a phone number and a rate.  The top, the bottom, smile really big, a phone number and a rate."

Seriously, our websites can be invaluable (a provider like me sells as much on personality as anything else- nearly every single one of my reviews mentions my writing which is why I continue to do it, it truly generates business) but if you're really pretty (and you are) you can be successful without maintaining a static presence online.  Keeps you safer, flying UTR, attracts an enviable clientele etc.

If you do decide to do a website...password protection is a traffic killer.  When you get a website read your web traffic.  The first 5-10 seconds determines whether or not someone stays on your page.  When I'm checking out another lady's website the first thing I look at is pictures and then rates.  So does everyone else.

Keep it intuitive and easy to navigate.  If you don't have anything interesting to say, don't.  If you do, make it work for you.

Sorry for the double post...on the iPad.

What are you trying to protect from the masses?

Guys looking for ass have VERY short attention spans, so if it is too complicated, they tend to move on. All the women I know who have a protected site are usually A. charging on the ups of 500, and B. are pretty much low volume. Think about what you hope to accomplish and try it out. If after a month or so you feel you want more calls, do away with the password. No harm in having pics that are password protected, but at least give them an idea of what you look like. Men are visual, so you have to dangle some goods for them to contact you ha ha.

However, password protected is a bad idea. A barrier I do not want to bother with.

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Now we're talking here Zoe

Yep...I charge that for "shopping dates"...and I won't discount for anyone either!

I didn't notice you on "Love in the Wild" or "Big Brother".  Did you run on the "Amazing Race"?

I also have it on pretty good authority that "The Donald" isn't interested in hookers

Now...maybe if you offer up "hair styling"..."The Donald" may have an interest in that  

20-30k/min....you are pretty, but, when i have my face close to a vagina...they all look like vagina's.
none of them are worth that amount of money.

Don't hate her because she is a 10.

I realize guys on here will try and rip her heart out for suggesting that amount because most guys on here think more than 300 for pussy is a waste, but there is a market for her..exotic and regal looking are words that immediately come to mind after seeing her images.

Then get a smoking hot website and password protect it. That way not just anyone can see it. It will appeal to those types of men, like your only available to the best (okay the most money because I am sure  rich guys can be assholes too). Go for it, you can always change things up after the fact if it does not work out.

And one more thing...that password might be passed around to his circle of friends negating any advertising. The real high dollar hotties do not need to advertise (word of mouth), nor do they accept reviews...go find a few and take a look at their sites. And try and find them on review sites...some do but the real exclusive ones don't.

I say flash the haters a big smile and walk on by.

A very typical hobbyist answer. So those guys who buy a Rolls Royce are stupid because a Yaris would get you from point a to point b? Those guys don't think like the majority on here do. They pay thousands for a bottle of wine...to me that's expensive urine but to them it's just a bottle of good wine.

I guess trying to explain this any further to a guy like you would be a waste of time so peace out.

I applauded her self-worth.  Nothing wrong with setting your standards high.

BUT...if you look at her "current" numbers, she is miles and miles away from that lofty goal.

And FWIW...she isn't a celebrity.  And until she's on Big Brother, Love in the wild, The Amazing Race or some other second rate "has been" show...she can't consider herself one.  Correction...she can consider herself whatever she wants.  The market will ultimately determine her value.  And as of now...she's just a $ 1k hooker...nothing more.  And I'll bet you that she doesn't get that number terribly often either...just a guess

Maybe she should try to get on "The Apprentice"...then she can sweet talk The Donald into hiring her.  But she might need to delist herself, as she doesn't want this past to ruin her future

If you can be successful in that target market, good for you.  But then why are you on TER?  This is not that market.

No hooker is going to "demand" twenty grand from a guy with bucks. I have the means but certainly don't have the desire to pay a tenth of that price for a piece of pussy, and I certainly would never consider paying even $500 for a woman who is "demanding" that rate.

A truly desirable courtesan with a combination of beauty, brains, social skills and marketing acumen might be able to "command" those types of rates, but a whiny little hooker trying to self promote on a fuck board designed for "hobbyists" to get value for their dollar doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of ever elevating herself to that level.

Just like with respect. You can never demand it, if you can't command it, you are just shit out of luck

One other thing while I am on the subject. While I will grant that you are going to get a Rolls Royce for the price of a Yugo, simply putting a Rolls Royce hood ornament on a Yugo isn't going to make it a Rolls, even if you give it a fancy paint job too rofl

Uh..Uh...I think she is "demanding it"

I offered her to get her ass on the Apprentice...and make a good showing.  But when some gal just doesn't get this part of it, I can only assume that a team headed by Zoe..along with her pals Dennis Rodman and other B, C and D list celebs...will not make much noise on the show.

But she is really really good at posting on the GD board and NOT being so fucking obvious about her ads.

You would have let it stand...right?  She might not be as hot as the gal from ChiTown (# 3 as of today)...but Zoe thinks she's worth it.  Maybe she should test that one out...so Zoe, shaved or not?

Just how does one fuck you "gently" with a chainsaw? lmao

As for me, I was just slumming and couldn't keep my big mouth shut, something you can probably relate to. lol

if your talking to me...a guy like me??
a vagina is a vagina is a vagina......not made out of friggen gold.
350 pussy feels just as good as 5000 pussy.

but Zoe isn't one of them, she is just another hooker with stars in her eyes and delusions of grandeur and a jet setting life style that she is unlikely to ever achieve. First off, no guy with "real' money is going to want to be around anyone else that takes herself as seriously as Zoe. i know I have been around enough women, strippers mainly, with her exact type of "I am so special" attitude.

She reminds me of the cocktail waitresses in Hollywood and Beverly Hills who all claim that they are really actresses in between movies. Talk about being deluded.

the "I'm demanding 25k for my pussy"...

Then it all went to shit.

No question there have been some gals who are smart, funny and get how to put this out there.  But they don't seem to want to play here anymore either.  But every once in a while they make a return...but not nearly as often as I, for one, would like to see them.

I hope Zoe's not reading this...she'll be very upset.  And God knows we don't want to upset the gals

It doesn't matter much what we feel, she has her sights seta and I say go for it..and the hate reference was supposed to be funny, you know that saying ...don;t hate me because I'm beautiful.

I mean she can only try and then if she rakes in the big fish she can delist and poof, exclusive to the rich and famous.

To the camp that won't pay more than whatever number you have in your head for pussy. And that's fine.

I agree she is barking up the cheap tree trying this on here. The kind of men she is after would not visit this site or admit to it if they did.

She could get it, she has the body...and she might have the service and she might even have the rest..I am not going to slap her down because I feel she is too expensive for here. She might be the genuine article..the Rolls complete with hood ornament.

I think the entitlement might have got a few undies in a bunch...hey no different than most guys on here with their entitled tudes.

I was not sure how things got communicated and I can see why your way works. Now who is to say she can't. I mean being on here is never going to help her. All that is going to happen has happened, she got booed by the boys and few ladies. I know of a couple of ladies that have websites and see high dollar guys. Maybe she wants to do the over the top ones...ie kept on the side. Not sure that counts as as escort/courtesan. But I guess for the fees she wants, your scenario is possibly the one.

I would hate for her to read this and know who I really am, I would hate for her to be upset with little ole me. lmao

Maybe she can horn in and work the rooms to see if Prince Harry has an interest?

And then we can all say "We knew Zoe when she was just a hooker".

I'll need to take about 5 Ambiens to buy that one though

to get that type of money you have to be the "complete package" and part of that is having the quiet confidence that comes with "knowing" that you are "all that" and more.

No, she has a long ways to go before she is even close to the league of even an Edrienne Cole, who really is "all that" and doesn't get anywhere near $20K  a session.

I don't have any idea if she is truly hot or not, The picture don't really show me much, and tens are given out so freely on TER that they have become meaningless to me.

Don't worry GaG...I'll put a good word in for you

Zoe's a good kid...overall

She's young and has her ambitions.  And she knows that the TER Gods won't let this turn into a shit storm.

Can't say that everyone gets her though.  She's using the platform to promote...but she did it well enough that most didn't see...or care.  She's in Chicago...I'm still waiting for her to buy me that "cup of coffee".

And honestly, it took up plenty of bandwidth that we eliminated a bunch of "mangina" crying posts!!

But those posts are making a comeback....care to play with us on those?

Let the market set the rates.

If a girl wants to ask for 20k to 30k, let her.  I don't think it's realistic given what I know about the escort market, but if she wants to ask that, so be it.

Remember...you can offer yourself at whatever rate you want, and guys can choose to pay whatever they want.

There is only a trade if both sides meet at some point.  Otherwise, it's just an offer and a bid.

No need to ridicule her.  That's not a WK comment.  I don't know her, and given her rates, she's not on my radar.  Probably never will be.

And that's fine.  She said why she wants a password-protected website.  Let's talk about that, instead of whether her rates are realistic or not.

Because isn't that what she's asking?

The first and only "black escort for Donald Trump types"?

I don't see the connection.  If you want to meet those types, do you think that they are gonna look on the internet to find such a girl?

I have lots of friends who are uber-rich.  I'm not talking a guy making seven figures.  I'm talking guys making high eight figures to start, and guys who own their own jets (not just shares in NetJets or whatever the private jet companies are these days).

Guess what?  They don't find their playthings by searching on the internet.  Most of them are banging celebrities themselves, or are meeting girls who already are in that inner circle and have gotten in for one reason or another.  These are guys who get invites to the Playboy Mansion and who are banging Playmates in the Grotto.  These are guys who travel by their private jet to St. Barth's over New Years and whose Amex bills are six figures a month.

You don't meet those guys by adveritising on the internet, and password protecting your site has nothing to do with that.

If you want to get into that circle of players, then you should work for an agency or a person who has access to or is in that circle.

I just don't see the connection between having a site is password protected vs. one that isn't.  There is no correlation.  Or, in statistics speak, the R-squared here is zero.

Yes to website, No to password protect for the main content, yes to calendar

Then she wanted to let the folks know that she is "dreaming" of being an escort to/for the celebrities.

Then she opened up the floor to comment on her opportunities in that venue.

As GaG has commented already...there are tons of VERY VERY hot gals who will be running like assholes seeking "fame".  And some of them have some modicum of exposure (as in some low level celebrity) that are light years ahead of Zoe.

As you say...she can ask whatever she wants.  I could care less, and most here don't give a shit either.

But put this into your organizer and let's revisit in two years...wanna bet she's still hanging around here?

Sort of like all the gals who have to announce their "retirement"...they don't!!  They almost always come back...BY POPULAR DEMAND  LOL

Of course, I am sure she will deny that she is simply angling for free publicity, but we all know better, or at least we. Should

and more importantly, that you didn't do what many providers do when they feel "attacked" which is to lash back. I may have to reconsider my opinion of you, who knows? you might make it after all. lol

I do stand by my Command vs Demand statement, but since you have already agreed to that, I guess I don't have anything else to pick on you about. lol

good luck finding that first $20 grand client.

dumb it is stupid. Why bother?

If you password protect a site and ask people to send email to get access, you are no better than those who use the trick to collect email and sell emails to spammers.

I use several addy’s. I have two that I only give to trusted parties all others get, what I call email spam collectors which I never bother to look.

Just some food for thought.