Rebranding is great advice and so is the soul-searching comment. But she can't soul-search without perspective on what she may be doing "wrong" with respect to a TER client base so, as CDL pointed out, listening to some of the negative feedback hear has value.
Im looking to get more reviews and be more active on TER. Any advice on how to get more exposure and more traffic on here. Thanks happy holidays
Unfortunately Seattle is not big TER country. As you know, there is another dominant board there. I was going to say to post on the Seattle ad board and regional board, and do the same for any cities you will be visiting, but I looked at your posts and you have been doing that. I guess just keep on doing that, and maybe up your post count a little. Post on the photo board too. That might make people take notice. You can post here on the General board too, but make sure you have a thick skin. 😊 Read some threads here before you jump in. Some people can get mean here. Good luck.
Your profile positions you as pretty restrictive, yet relative expensive.
I see this frequently, 200 first half hour, 150+ next, 100+next and then 150+ next. I think there should be a discount for longer times, not punishment.
Perhaps she is tying to encourage shorter dates?
explain? as in going up in $50 increments as opposed to $150 increments?
5 to 7 range are probably not going to help your business. Tartus is correct that your restrictive menu is going to keep the scores low under the TER rules. If you allow DATY, DFK and BBBJ, your scores will most likely be higher.
I think the more fit you are would most likely correspond into more interest and thus more reviews. As others have said, no deep kissing, no daty and a covered bj would be deal breakers for me.
Perfect time of year to make some changes for the new year if you want. Good luck Jazelyn!
Based on a few years observing/playing the PNW scene, ladies tend to lean toward CBJ and the guys tend to speak on the escort board(s) other than TER, in some form of English I'm not familiar with. It's like some kind of club (you see where that got the guys who were members of "The League") and you ain't a member. That said, had years of fun seeing Baylee Lefever (until she turned in to a total flake) Ciera Sage (until she retired from escorting) and had success with the one Seattle agency lady I saw.
MfSD>>>>
Hello lovely,
First off- there are better places to get business advise than directly from the customer base! The customers will lead you with their best interests at heart, and will almost always tell you to “do more, for less”. You would have much better luck asking for advise on the Providers Only board here on TER!
In all honesty I would recommend a complete rebrand including name change. You only have 3 TER reviews and they are several years old and honestly not that great. You have a perfect opportunity to start fresh, do some research & soul searching, and decide what kind of direction you wish to move in with your brand!
I also second twitter as a great resource! It has been invaluable to me both as an advertising platform and as a networking opportunity with other providers!
I wish you the best of luck moving forward!
Companies all over the world pay thousands, even millions, of dollars to get feedback directly from customers, because it teaches them what defects they might have in their products or services so they can be corrected. Here, she can get the same direct customer feedback for free. What savvy marketer would suggest that she ignore such input if she wants to grow her business? Knowing why someone wouldn't buy is as important as knowing why they would, sometimes more so. She was absolutely correct to ask potential customers. Whether or not she puts the information gained to good use is on her. I agree she should rebrand. That is a sound suggestion given the time-lapse from her prior reviews.
Said no serious business person ever. Client feedback is absolutely essential in running any venture for profit and p4p is no different.
Please note that only one guy even mentioned rates to this girl. Almost all of the advice seemed like good, common sense measures to me.
Amazingly ignorant, bad advice on that front, Kitty.
She may have the minimum number of reviews, but she has almost no board presence and it would take her months of concerted effort to be able to access that board, yet another strike for Kitty.
Also, although only one person mentioned rates, it is a valid area of concern. In almost every market, with the possible exceptions of NYC and LA, a Non GFE provider is going to have to average 9's or better in appearance to command rates of over $300 hr. The OP isn't getting anywhere near those kind of scores.
I do agree that reinventing herself would be a good idea, she has no "brand" to protect and starting over could only help "IF" she steps up her game under her new identity. If she continues to get rather mediocre reviews for a non GFE experience she is unlikely to ever break through and achieve the success she is seeking.
I am sure kitty didn't notice, but I certainly did, but not a single respondent made a comment that he or she would be interested in booking with the OP. That in itself should tell her she needs to "up her game"
Bad kitty, no treat! 
But in all honestly you both make fair points- customer feedback does have indeed have value in all businesses. To be clear- I didn’t say it had no value, I said it has less value than feedback from other sex workers. Perhaps my point could have been made a bit more diplomatically.
I’ve been in the sex industry for over 12 years and I am firm in the belief that the best resource for career advise is other sex workers. There’s a ton of advise that could help her that cannot be published openly here for a variety of reasons.
My advise is still this: Reach out to your fellow sex workers. Befriend them, offer to take them to coffee, focus on making professional connections. They have the wisdom and experience that can help you best, culled from years of experience and thousands of sessions. Stay away from the drama, and try to take the high road whenever possible!
You can do this! Best wishes!
find a few providers that can give you valuable information to help grow your business and stay out of trouble! How to reach goals, how to successful tour, which hotels are friendly, which men are friendly.
And I also agree with the female that asked her customer base where she could make improvements.
Maddie
double down on your prior post. Are you suggesting that Ford Motor Co. should ask Chrysler what they should do rather than ask the people who BUY Fords?
While it may be nice to be on friendly terms with the competition, you always have to wonder if you're getting the absolute BEST advice in that situation. Providers are all different and appeal to a variety of customer types based on looks and services. YOU need to figure out what your OWN customer base is, and gear your services and marketing to them. What works for another provider in another market may not be the best approach for you. Provider advice for MANAGING your business may be valuable, but customer feedback is king from a marketing standpoint. I won't repeat it a third time if you don't get it. Lol
double down on your prior post. Are you suggesting that Ford Motor Co. should ask Chrysler what they should do rather than ask the people who BUY Fords?
But your comments and suggestions are spot on. Yet while providers you suggest may not have advice fit for her market, she should still reach out and make her own decisions what would help.
She needs a marketing manager, step up and shine offer her your services, be sure to meet wearing the right hat
Ford or Chrysler guy to me, more of a gold Cadillac kind of guy, but not a new one, rather one of the long jobs with big tail fins from the 60's or 70's.
Car analogy was to keep it simple. Marketing is marketing, and some concepts are universal regardless of the industry. If you think the produce industry markets apples differently than oranges (your example), then you don't understand basic marketing principles. Many providers get off track when they think universal marketing techniques don't work in their industry, so they flounder around until they get back to the basics. (Like putting flyers on car windshields? - okay, maybe not THAT one - lol).
Omg the need to be better than others makes me laugh. Who cares if I know marketing or not. But the personal service industry is far different than hard materials marketing, so am I your butch again and wrong?
I complimented your insight yet you choose to challenge me over providing more inspiration to help her. That also makes me laugh because the only point important is you are correct regardless.
graduate business school, you will learn there are certain universal truths about marketing. Its not about who is "right" and who is wrong, so no need to be so defensive. You spend a lot of time laughing when you should be learning. I have been in marketing of "services" for the past 30 years, not tangibles, but tangibles have the same principles. "Personal" services are no different, whether its sex, or a chain of nail salons or barber shops. If you want business, there are certain things you do to market your service that transcend industry type. Most providers are low-volume, not by design, and would love to have more clients, but they don't understand how to market themselves. The ones that have figured it out get the lions share of the business, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER INDUSTRY.
With that said, I will give up on trying to help.
Rebranding is great advice and so is the soul-searching comment. But she can't soul-search without perspective on what she may be doing "wrong" with respect to a TER client base so, as CDL pointed out, listening to some of the negative feedback hear has value.
I seem to be in the same boat as OP. I only have one review. The person who left my review was forced to take my points from a 10 down to an 8 before TER would allow it to be active. They said it was because he was a "new reviewer". I didn't really a problem with it at first, but now I'm not so sure it doesn't affect my overall business on this platform. I don't seem to get very many inquiries here, and I offer more on my menu. Because I only have one review, I am also not allowed to have access to the Providers Only board. I feel like I've spent the last year in TER purgatory lol!
I think I see the problem. One of your selfie pics, is taken while your phone is charging. Tsk. Tsk. Bad planning. Who wants to see someone who can’t manage their affairs enough to make sure their phone is charged at critical times? 
Seriously, I wonder if your web site is appealing to a very narrow niche of possible customers, given the domina theme. Maybe that is holding back potential customers? Also, I am much more inclined to enquire if a provider is on P411, since it leads to easier screening. Maybe joining would help?
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She is on P411
She is on P411
they're the ones buying.
I agree with a re-brand. Your photos aren't bad but hiring a pro will get you a VERY long way (and not a photographer who over photo-shops...)
Also the copy on your website is exactly what I have seen time and time again and is not memorable at all (sorry). If you can't afford to hire someone to write it for you, just use an online thesaurus to change up words like "elite" and "companion".
Also I'd recommend upgrading to the non-free version of a site when you re-brand. You'll get your own domain and more options for the page design and stand out more.
Plus posting on the photo board and on your local board too to show personality. And twitter!!
Good luck and let us know how it goes!
Be more active here on the boards!! I also highly suggest you update your profile too. There are A LOT OF "dont know" on your profile. If you ever feel the need to send me a message, I'm more than happy to help anyway I can. I don't think it'd be a bad idea to find another, more experienced lady to do a few doubles with. THAT is like the best "how to do better hooker skills" teachings than you'll ever get here or any discussion board IMO 😚
Wish you all the best!
XOXO
TL
But honestly I don’t think you’re going to take any. Customer side comments were spot on. Providers suggest also spot on. Rebranding seems to be the first best option.
But how serious are you? Are you willing to step up your game make the changes suggested or just going to continue down the same broken path and was bored when you asked?
You need a sponsor. Someone with good history and experience. That would not be a guy unless he’s managing providers, or better known as “The Pimp”
Sorry this Pimp is retired hahaha
Be active on TER AFTER rebranding
Don’t become a Drama Queen or BSC as others like to say.
Email any or ALL providers who posted here.
Be responsive to suggestions and reply at least once to say thanks for all the advise.
But somehow I feel you’re not really that interested or willing to put the effort in making those changes .
Best of Luck
Happy New Year
But the services offered portion of your profile has too many No's plus CBJ which is probably not helping with this crowd. Too many hot girls offer everything. IMHO.
Nice. I love all the feedback. I love positive criticism and I’m always ready to learn. So that being said, everything takes time. I will be private messaging a few of you lovely ladies. I have some strong belief about things, so they won’t be changed. I love Jazelynn, so leveling with this profile will be challenging, I’m serious and ready though.
I see some providers with horrible reviews and poor looks who get a lot of business. These are all sliding scales (looks, performance, pricing, etc.), that if you get the settings right you will be fine.
With a few tweaks, you could get to where you want, potentially.
The only tweak I would advise, without changing anything else you do or have posted, is price. Lower your price to $280 and I believe your business will increase.
Your pictures look fine, nothing that I would say no to if I were looking for your type. And, I do look for your type. What may help is a picture of your face. Doesn't have to reveal who you are but a partial or blurred photo. Again I say "may" because it could be good or bad. For example, I like a softer look w/ black women and high cheekbones. If a girl doesn't fit that category, I'll move-on. Hispanic girls already have that look, in general. But if I want an ethnic girl, I have to be in the mood for it.
I have been to Seattle, and if I saw your ad at $280, knew you were easy to get to Hotel or outcall, I would consider you or maybe even date you. In my experience, its not easy to get to go to a girl, just because of logistics. If somewhere in your ad there is a statement of 'flexible hours', local, and I can EASILY get to your hotel outcall, that would help a lot!
Your other providers may not like it, but at $280 you would be a consideration. I would not go below $280, as I would then think something is wrong with you - versus you are at the right price point based on services.
At $300, the no kissing would be a deal breaker. If you did do LFK/DFK, that would put you back under consideration. I understand why girls don't like to do it, but that puts you in CL/BP territory without it, and again, their rates are lower for same service.
No BBBJ, again, puts you in a different lower category of service. I could live with covered BJ, if you did LFK and DFK and did it well and had the reviews to back it up.
If you did BBBJ and LFK/DFK, you could actually increase your rates, easily.
Getting advice from your fellow providers is not a bad idea, and if anything you'll have somebody to talk to about the ups and downs of the business, just good therapy. People like to share advice, just take some of it with a grain of salt.
Posting on here periodically will help. People will become familiar with your 'brand' name and personality. If guys become used to seeing your name, they may want to try you out because they are comfortable with you not being a 'stranger'. That being said, you may not get the return for your efforts because Seattle guys don't really use this board and its a tough scene for the hobby in Seattle because of LEO.
Its like the restaurant business. The customers and people, not in the business, say if you have great food, you'll be fine. I know a lot of restaurants that have gone under that served not good, but great food. That is only a very small part of the equation. Its actually location, great service, business acumen, and blend of branding/marketing. For example, how are you managing your finances? Saving, investing, keeping your costs low will in the long run make you more money than more clients. There are only so many hours in a day.
Hope that was helpful, and best of luck.
Your post was easily the best one on the entire thread, even better than mine, so Go Fuck Yourself!!! lol
In all seriousness. Your post nailed it and the only thing I would add is that "other providers" do have an interest in keeping rates as high as possible, so they may not give as realistic advice regarding pricing as an actual consumer can give. It's easy to say "you go girl" when you aren't the one sitting at home all day looking at an empty inbox. The difference in $350 and $280 is not a huge one, but seeing five guys at $280 beats the hell out of seeing only one at $350.
And for those who would say, "who are we to tell her what to charge?" We are "the market" is who we are. We aren't here offering unsolicited advice to a successful provider who is doing just fine doing things "her way". Please remember, SHE ASKED, her business is NOT going as well as she had hoped and she is searching for ideas on how to improve things for herself. I think following your advice to a tee is exactly what she should do, along with making some provider friends as well who can help her along.
for the synopsis. I admit I didn't read his all the way through until after you added your comments.
Hmmm, I better be more careful. I would hate to ruin my reputation.
Yes, please be more careful, I would hate to have to admit I was wrong about you, or wrong about ANYTHING for that matter. lol
Jazelynn,
These just my thoughts and please do not take as being negative.
I think some approach this from a wrong direction. Instead of approach from how do i get more of anything, first decide what its is you have as real expectations.
If you have personal expectations that demand a high level income, you need to produce a high level product. A diverse product that offers something for many rather than limited product that appeal only to some. I am not talking the quality of the product yet, I am talking the depth of the product.
Like buy a car, car has different prices, depending on the things you want in a car. Buying providers time has same issue, what things provider offers as the package. Many clients would not buy a car unless it has a air condition, would you? Those same clients may not want a provider who no matter how sexy, has no BBBJ or DATY, just an example.
I think my point is first decide how busy and what level income you want. Then look your competition and see what you are competing against. Finally establish how you want be perceived or seen by the hobby. Look at all competition and decide what makes you different or at least equal to competition. Focus on what makes you special.
Once you do all that, then get pencil and paper or spreadsheet and actually figure your cost. Every product that sells has a cost. What is your in call cost, advertising cost, supplies cost, memberships costs, outfits costs, and all the others. As an example I do not keep a in call, but I do require all in call to be a 90 minute appointment to cover the cost of the hotel I get. Treat your business as a business.
Once you know exactly what you want in this business, and you know what it cost you, and you know what your competition is charge, then you can know how you must charge. If you feel certain that you have special qualities and they are worth extra charge, then factor that in. The point here is be realistic. Just because you feel something is special does not mean all clients will feel it special.
There are many here that have posted lower your rates. I would never say that. But I will give you my experience with it. I come from Manila. Its one of the largest cities in the world, some rank it as the most densely populate city in the world. Its population far exceeds any city in US. SW is not "legal" in Manila, but is not looked down on and never enforced unless underage or drugs, and is highly available. In Manila before I moved to the US, I hate admit it, my rates were half of my US rates. But even low by US standards, my rates were competitive and provided a good income. Manila is big, but is cheap if you you live normal expectations. Competition is an issue and keeps rates low. Of course now my rates when I go back rates are same as US. I am not ashamed I had very low rates, and my rates were same as girls that were in magazine and model, as almost all were escorts also. You need fashion your rates to the product to the competition.
My final word is patience. It takes time to get reviews. Most i see do not review anymore. It simply takes time. Hang in there and you will be fine.
Good Luck no offense.
Christine
has some marketing savvy. Refreshing, to say the least. Kudos to you for getting out in front of it at such a young age. The other girls here should take note, IMO, but I'm afraid some will just keep on laughing at the idea of approaching this your way. Meanwhile, they have no customers.
Very good advice.Well done.Hope she learns from it.
1.Expand you service to include more things that guys look for in a good date.
2.Then carefully choose your clients
3.Work on improving your PR
4. Go on a tour (a few different states)