So i agreed to meet this guy,  for some fun....

i made it super crystal clear, that i am not a porn star-nor was i interested in doing porn. (having ANY SEX on camera)


i told him i was ok with him recording my boobs and him playing with them and such. (as long as my face was not seen)  All that was fine. he got his memoir. whatever.

cameras off, tripod away. time for some real fun.

heres my problem-

im doing an awesome cbj and this guy has his cell phone out SNEAK RECORDING ME.

WTF???

so yea- i said our time together up!! GTFO


so OF COURSE he threatens me with TER and says im ripping him off.....

guys, girls am i wrong?



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-- Modified on 3/25/2013 11:29:20 AM

That's like saying "fuck me but only put it in half way"

You are supposed to be in control and should have said NO from the onset. You were not in control of the situation and rules, and that is your fault.

What's an awesome CBJ? What is a memoir waterer?

I would never just say "Oh, you can only record this and not that," and assume the guy is going to listen. You said "I met with this creepy guy" so you knew UPFRONT, he was creepy yet saw him for cash anyway. You are just as much to blame, by trusting some guy you NEVER met.  Guys don't think with their brains, in case you haven't noticed. You let him cross the line by even bringing a damn camera in there to begin with! Protect yourself or no one else will, and that's the bottom line. It's not ALL your fault, but you certainly are not thinking here, and wanting to justify it too.

As for what he is making threats to do, hurry and send admin a message letting them know this went down. You did not rip him off, you ended the time. That would be like me already giving a guy head and him deciding to snort a line of cocaine. That's not a rip off...it's bye bye with no refunds, dumb ass! If he violates your trust and boundaries, you owe him nothing!



-- Modified on 3/25/2013 4:44:40 PM

memoir waterer? Is it some kind of hooker slang?

no offense taken at all.

i didnt "let him" bring the camera.

he just bought it . lol

i knew nothing of the camera until he was here. it really wasnt a big deal tho.


the thing is- WE PUT THE CAMERA AND TRIPOD AWAY!!!!

that part of the date is over.


he sneaks out cell cam. thats ware i got upset.


OH AND FOR THE RECORD

im calling him creepy, BECAUSE OF THIS INCIDENT.

i would NEVER meet someone if they came off creepy FROM THE BEGINNING

-- Modified on 3/25/2013 10:11:41 AM

That shit is just disrespectful.

I would also think that TER would have your back on this, can't hurt that you have this post to point back to.  Was probably a smart play.

LR said it, you knew he was creepy, but you agreed to see him anyway. Bad judgement.
For as long as I have been in the hobby, the one thing I always wondered about is how a girl could agree to have sex with someone who gives her the creeps. Not cause he's ugly, or unattractive, but cause he's a slimy person who gives to the willies. You really wanted the creep's money, so you went for it, and it turned out predictably.
Learn and move on.
Notify TER Admin.

I heard there are cop hobbist who record sessions with their survalence equipment.  They do it for fun to see what they canget away with.

I asked because she's fat.  If so, then YOU'RE the one with the problem.  You shouldn't be so hard on the fat girls.

your MANY previous posts show that you are quick with comments toward any girl that you deem too big for your tastes.  don't play coy.  it shows how stupid you really are.

Wiretap laws are severe.  you are well within your right to be angry.

Not just the misspelling of "whatever".

lmao lol why

typo---  he got his memoir. (end of sentence)  whatever. (end of sentence)

thanks for ur input

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lol i know--- it was just a bit of dry humor

lol lol thx

Next time let's blame the rape victim for not wearing her chastity belt and keeping her vagina in "control."

She was supposed to be in control?  These girls could get the crap beat out of them and raped on a daily basis.  We all hope that screening will keep them safe, but there are no guarantees.

Mona:  I am glad nothing worse happened.  Yes, you had the right to tell him to stop and to expect him to follow your wishes.  You were right to end the session.  I think he deserves to be black-listed.  He over-stepped a HUGE boundary.  What will he do to the next girl?

should have made it clear from jump- but i was worked up, and in a hurry.

THE GUY WASNT CREEPY AT FIRST.

THIS INCIDENT MADE ME SAY HE WAS CREEPY

THANK u

thank u for your input. i appreciate it  i think that is a good idea too.

How do you quote her post and yet not read it?  Learn and move on, big guy!

but you already clarified that point well, before simon replied! Apparently he cant read.

of it being a different type of camera, you opened yourself up to this by letting him record you to begin with. I am not "blaming" you, but trying to explain how you should have said FK NO from jump. There is no way in hell I would let a client video tape me...especially on the FIRST meeting. You are asking for so much down the road, it is unreal. These fktards do not think, and not every guy is trained like the many you see on TER posting all day long. You just never know where that tape is going to end up, so I hope you have nothing to lose.

In HIS mind, you let him tape you so anything goes as far as taping from that point on. I am not saying it's right and he certainly should be blacklisted for crossing the line, but what did you expect? Do you have his real name? What did his refs have to say about him? Did you check the BL sites before agreeing to see him? These thread are never ending, and it's usually the same reason.


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Blame goes both ways...sorry. Had there NEVER BEEN a camera, he would not have been so easily tempted to tape her again. Did his refs say anything about strange behavior? Hmm, or did he even have any? iThat's not blame, it's reality. I don't even allow a cell phone to be ON, much less near the damn bed. WTF...really?

She allowed a damn camera and tripod to be brought in by a first time client, and did not expect this to happen? I am not blaming her, but common sense goes a long way. If you want to protect your privacy, do it all the way or don't be so shocked when someone takes advantage of it. Letting a guy video tape you at all, is just plain stupid unless you are a porn star who does not give a shit that the entire world knows what you do.

There comes a point in everyone's career, life etc. when they need to take responsibility for their own actions, at times. Was this her fault? Partly, yes. Did she deserve it? Nope, but it's a bit late when that tape is probably out there, to worry about it.

I would be a hell of a lot more worried about giving a bj, than I would about some bad review at this point. Anyone and everyone can view youporn.



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i dont agree to parts of this... i feel u on some tho

there is no tape to be "out there" lol

im not worried about that-


i did wat i was comfortable with ,on camera, on a first date.

THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.


he just tried to take advantage after the fact.

he was caught in the act of trying to record. so i said GTFO.

he went as far as trying to show me he really didnt actually record anything---but i was already over it. GTFO

You are seriously naive! You can live feed right to facebook for pete's sake, from a cell phone!

I think you need a role model, or at the very least some lessons on Hooker 101. I would have shoved that phone straight up his ass!

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So was looking forward to filming her gobbling my weiner!  Lickin me balls... and me going to town on her..... yes indeed....  so us fktards do not think?!  we can be trained?  

Sister, lemme tell you a thing or two, I have filmed me, and then I have watched said film... no way is that getting outta my posession, even in death, I will hang onto the video with a grip that will make you think superglued my lips together!  whaddaIdo?  If most guys here, look like me while uking none of you ladies have anything to fear if we are in the frame!  think Ron Jeramy, only older, with less but grayer hair... balls down to knees, and thin wrinkly skin!!!

yea, like I want that on the internet.... sometimes ya gotta project it out.

LMAO...you get a Gold Star for comedic effect. No, I have NEVER let a client video tape me, because I have too much to lose. A BF...yep, and that's totally legal as far as the law is concerned, but my face sure as fk was not in the damn thing, nor was his.

posed ladies, ladies having sex, fully clothesed ladies and naked ladies... but ALL with permission.  When the lady says put the camera away, it goes away, disappears and no other pictures are taken.  This guy is just so uncool it is not funny.  You had every right to end the session, and it was doubly uncool to threaten you with TER!  so in performance he rates a "0"

Gotta say, some gals I know charge extra for the filming, some only want the photos... but to do it without permission, just not cool.

YES! The reason guys act like this, as if they're entitled to whatever they want and they'll get away with it too, is because no one ever puts accountability on them. She said no and there should have been no further questions!

I would blacklist him, and put something out on the local or provider only boards. This is only fun when everyone behaves, and the community needs to stick up for themselves and each other in cases like this. He coulda been a cop, outed her, gone even further... You never know.

lol lol it has nothing to do with being naive.

and im not worried about any such videos.

it was just the principle.

"i didnt "let him" bring the camera.
he just bought it . lol"
Either way...consider other options before you get yourself hurt.
You need a strong mind to do this and that's something I'm not seeing here.
It's just odd that you find it laughable but claim to be posed off...wtf, Sybil

she shouldn't be blamed for that.

blacklist his ass

if he has the balls to write a bad review explain it to Ter
AND post on your local board under your ad right there after what about this ass you will not tolerate. Basically out him.

I have had to end 2 appts early with no refund in the last 7yrs
one was a guy who kept trying to be rough with me too rogh for play.
the next was a guy who kept trying BBFS got caught and thrown out.

Both wrote aweful reviews of me and Ter allowed them but what ever...

this is why you never allow it. They cant be trusted.hope you erased the tape.

Thats one reason its a flawed system its often used for retaliation. I see Karma coming their way though.

post your adventures on the net than any of us hobbiests!  We've much more to lose that some hormone driven ex-BF!  I mean there are web sites dedicated to "the one I use to love"! As far as legal goes, a stripper / escort "acquaintance" of mine offered that I should bring a camera, and a model release form to our "gathering!"  the ruse of course would be that if LE interfered (this was in an area where LE was known to interfere) we would say I was a photographer, and to prove it, I have a standard model release which she signed to prove it....

needless to say, my lawyer friends are still laughing at that one!

well, obviously, this is a thread, on the internet- and you dont know my personality in real life.

so are u saying that HOURS LATER, i should still be upset? and not be able to make light of the situation with an "lol"

rite!!!  i dont have a problem being filmed- depends on the situation (obviously)

I highly doubt that guy was your regular monger, had a P411 account, or even a damn TER handle, much less a review history. This story has a lot of holes, and I will just leave it at that.

he wasnt my regular anything-- and idk wat u mean by holes

Are there rules?

Thanks for playing.

Get Angela Petite to teach you how to blacklist and make an ass out of yourself.

She's an expert.

over, the camera was put away. Ive only done this with clients I trusted, but even if it was w/ someone new, I'd hope my boundaries are always respected. Being violated feels the worse.

At first you said "I did not allow him to bring a camera," then you said, "We had to set the thing up on a damn Tripod," meaning you ALLOWED IT! Which is it? How can a guy carry that much shit into your location, without you knowing about it? Holes means this story keeps changing, which is often the case when women are trying to avoid a bad review, but whatever. I don't care about your business, but you brought it to the Main Board.

If you are truly a "VICTIM" I guess, time will tell. Who lets a guy tape them, then gets pissed that he keeps doing it? Good lord. Sorry, but there is no way in hell I would allow even a cell phone to be TURNED ON, much less a camera during a date, and especially with some dude I have never met!  Just like, I won't be stupid enough to work out of my own damn house, then bitch about having stalkers showing up.

How exactly did he just "HAVE" his cell phone, if his damn pants were off whilst you were giving him a bj, might I ask? Was he holding the damn thing? Was he Master P or some shit, because I have never had a guy even keep a phone ON the bed, much less near his hand to actually grab the thing. It's usually in his pants, which are across the room.

Problem with many of these "Poor me" threads, is they are rarely ever accurate, so don't wonder why so many have trouble buying this crap. The posters and Admin. have heard every excuse under the sun, for trying to have a review pulled or never posted. Not saying that is what you are doing, but it certainly would not be the 1st or even the 100th time.



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Guess you were just making up bullshit!

What a shock. LOL

Mona, I am sorry this happened.  I don't think you did anything wrong.  He was completely out of line & disrespectful.  If I deliberately disrespected my date in any way, I'd expect to find myself on the street pulling up my pants!  He KNEW you said NO, which was why he tried to sneak it.  There SHOULD repercussions for him, like losing the rest of his session.  What did he think was going to happen?  Get away with it?
Honestly, this is a New One on me but that doesn't mean we shouldn't learn from it.  A lot of gyms ban phone use in the locker areas...  because they all have cameras these days.  I would expect phones to be put away during a session...  and if not, be extra wary!
HV

well im new to the disscusion board. i dont need to scheme up some story.

i think u are just taking this and running waaaaaaay away with it.


it happened, thats that.  i never thought of myself as a VICTIM lol

i just asked for opinions.  and i think u missed the point of the whole post to begin with.

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You back peddle like a veteran. LOL

Do your johnnie boys know of this handle?  Or just your TER review handle?

Sure wouldn't want those assholes to figure this out...would we?

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lol

lol idk. i was kinda thinking that, but i don't wanna be a bitch to anyone.  i like this board.  im new and this has been interesting

Why not go and do something else?

Or are you like saturnsky and forced to suck cock of those you hate?

Sad.

pretending there arent is BS.

No I would never trust someone else other than myself in a room full of strangers to that level.
He lead her on about porn it was tipping that way she allowed him to film her she opened the door to it.
Dont trust them they are strangers...its just foolish to pretend everyone is all nicy nicy and sweet and will never do anything bad. BS

You just like to look for a fight .
you have a bad additude and project your crap on to the rest of the world.

would I trust you...not on your life. Will someone get over on me...most likely not.
Do I treat my clients well...absolutely.
Do I have to be nice to you, nope so dont count on it. I know an asshole when I see one. But also if you didnt portrait yourself as such a hard ass ppl wouldnt see you that way.

So am I here by choice you know it.
Im not going to fight with you, Im in a good mood and you are not gonna wreck it.

cheers

yea and people are supposed to believe you let a bf record u without your face?

I just asked if you are also a man hater...and as such hate johns.

If not...then it doesn't apply to you.

And if you honestly think I care what anyone thinks about the posts I put up...you are naive.

Stay in a good mood...I'm always in that frame of mind.  

Sorry if the hard truth sometimes hits home!  If it didn't...you wouldn't have replied.

Posted By: sweetnicole1

pretending there arent is BS.

No I would never trust someone else other than myself in a room full of strangers to that level.
He lead her on about porn it was tipping that way she allowed him to film her she opened the door to it.
Dont trust them they are strangers...its just foolish to pretend everyone is all nicy nicy and sweet and will never do anything bad. BS

You just like to look for a fight .
you have a bad additude and project your crap on to the rest of the world.

would I trust you...not on your life. Will someone get over on me...most likely not.
Do I treat my clients well...absolutely.
Do I have to be nice to you, nope so dont count on it. I know an asshole when I see one. But also if you didnt portrait yourself as such a hard ass ppl wouldnt see you that way.

So am I here by choice you know it.
Im not going to fight with you, Im in a good mood and you are not gonna wreck it.

cheers

Sorry honey, but I am not the one who came on a hooker board with some bs story...YOU are, and I don't really give a flying fk what you believe. I don't even show my damn face on a website, much less a video..get a clue, and please learn to spell. You are doing nothing but showing the entire board, how utterly CLUELESS you are. I am sure the boys will be lining up to contact you.

Unlike you, I am not careless and I protect what I have to lose...I can see why you "don't care" though lol. Even the photos on my website were taken, and uploaded, with MY camera. Damn...yea, you can take your big ass foot out of your mouth. Thanks.

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So what..couples have sex all the time and tape the shit....no face, no voice, no way to tell who it was. I would never be stupid enough to let anyone prove I was having sex on camera, unlike some here. Could be why I don't have to change my name, website, and TER stats every damn year lol.

Let him send that shit. Big whoop. All it shows is half of his condom covered cock going into my vagina. You can't even see my damn tits for most of it, much less my face.

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right on

I would not find it funny at all....even hours or days later.
I hope you post a warning to other providers on this guy.
He's gonna fuk with the wrong booker one day and get sucker punched in the face!
I hope all how well in the future for you and you're safe from harm!!

If he engages in this act with a callgirl..what does he do to civies,dancers in titty clubs and ladies at public beaches.. ewe! I wonder if he's a child molester as well?