: San Francisco Discussion : opportunity knocks

oargerela 110 Reviews 1696 reads

posted 12 years ago

1 / 21

Questions to all the ladies and gentlemen that has multiple accounts on the other dating sites. It is been over a month now since other site got shutdown and I'd like to know how's everybody doing? don't mind me asking. For me I am having difficulty adjusting how huge the impact of the shutdown effected my hobby, personal and even my professional life, most of you probably move on to better and greener pastures, but seems to me that I am inside a vacuum of life altering state of mind, in other words I'm stuck, our routine daily lives went thru surprisingly without warning take away from us. Like my friends describe it like, we have this colony, one of the best, happiest, successful and fun, a dream world per say that we gather around and all of a sudden someone above us drop some poison gas smack in the middle of it and we all went scattering around in a life changing, survival reactions. we are all over the place, took me long hours, gallons of coffee, sleepless nights, eyes wide shut, fingers numb just to ind my friends, found most of them and lost a few, then I found this place a safe haven for me right now because I see some of the handles and majority are the people I trust and even admired and some considered them a friend even they don't know. But for some reason I am missing something, I don't know what, I'm stuck and need someone to get me out of this mode. Racking my brains out, what is?

Maybe I miss those ads:
-The brilliantly written professional designed, and when you read them you tell yourself I want that
-The individually and creatively assembled with a simple selfie direct, concise and effective marketing
-The one that you ignore and bypass because you notice a lot of designs, combination of upper, lower case numbers that is written in words and the photos are take from a porn site copy, cut and paste in their ads, but went ahead and read it anyway and at the end you ask yourself WT# I wasted my time reading that cr#p
-The one so vulgar you shiver by looking at it

Maybe I miss those reviews:
-The sincerely honest respectfully written conveying the experience the outcome of the date and by reading it gives you the When Harry meets Sally effects
-The one gives a high rating but can not describe the date, except OMG, OMG, OOOHHH, AAAAH damn
-The one so vendictive that did not get what he wants dis respectfull because he went over the boundries and try to justify he is right and really intent to destroy the lady's reputations
-The one so self centered, selfish no clue of understanding, a real emergency, school, children, traffic, other work and has a lot of nerve and have a plenty of time to blame, blame and post flakes, flakes

Maybe I miss just the simplicity of the site, that got it bookmark and when ME and Pete got excited, It's just a matter of touch or click of a mouse, can easily access what kind of date you want, whether you're going for a Black Tie Events, Casual and Sports Date, Fast Foods and Driveways and the one that dares you to risk evrything and she wants you to pick her and you have to pause and think of Forest Gump box of chocolate

I mis those things, am I alone in this, need theraphy, advise, direction or just a simple hugs, probably gets me out of this mode, need input, be respectful please, I'm still depress. JK

sexyclassyfun See my TER Reviews 804 reads

posted 12 years ago

2 / 21

You are not alone

There are dozens if not hundreds or more that are in exactly the same boat. Thank you for expressing your difficulties and fond memories. Your willingness to be vulnerable lets us all know that we are not alone either.

Thank you for that.

There are a couple of sites that are working overtime to accommodate us and are responsive to our requests for modifications. There is a steep learning curve but I think eventually we will find one home for general pursuing and exchanging information with likely another site or two for the more private communications that make us feel as safe as we can in these turbulent and trying times.

444play 20 Reviews 684 reads

posted 12 years ago

3 / 21

thanks

and i feel your pain as well

jotigerlily See my TER Reviews 611 reads

posted 12 years ago

4 / 21

Re: thanks

I'm sorry this has been so difficult for you and, it's true, you are not alone. I have been reaching out to as many other providers as I can for support, etc. The more information we share, the safer and more secure we'll all feel.

Try to remember it's the middle of summer, so business is also down because kids are out of school and families are shuttling them around more. Also, many families take vacation this time of year. Things will pick up.

Keep your head up and continue to stay in contact.

Wishing us all comfort, community and prosperity,
Jo,

Posted By: 444play

and i feel your pain as well

Skyfyre 658 reads

posted 12 years ago

5 / 21

XXOO Recovering

I concur. I miss everything that you mentioned and more. It really has became an addiction so much so I used to log in and easily spend 2-4 hrs. almost everyday.

First I checked into my beloved SA forum to see what's going on in my neighborhood and nearby areas. I don't cruise as often as in my younger days but this really kept me abreast on strolls as if I'm out there. Then I checked into some irreverent forums such as Soap Box and SF Bay Area Lounge for fun banters and occasional energetic discussions. Then I checked into my PFs (private forums) to exchange pleasantries with like-minded posters.

Then last but not least I surfed the Classified Ads on one hand checking on my regulars as well as girls I've seen maybe once. Also keeping an eye out for "fresh meat", LOL.

For all its imperfections it was still head and shoulder above the rest, the best probably EVER web site for the hobby.

That's why I"ve always said that IT is the Walmart of the hobby: one stop shopping for all price ranges and for all tastes at mind-boggling volume. Shopping for pussies have really taken a huge step back to the Stone Age without it! Sad indeed...

OTH if there's a silver lining it is this: I now have myself a few extra hours each day

catlover 624 reads

posted 12 years ago

6 / 21

LOL

ou must be one of those PLs that had mostly their entire life and identity tied to hobbying and that other site. I'm thinking of guys like pohaku, EddieVyrdolak, Jimbo (jimdrake), JPA, etc...Yeah those guys, and many others, spent enormous amounts of time and effort establishing themselves at that other site and trying their best to be "big shots" on that site. Well, now that site is gone, and POOF! those guys are nothing now. Nothing in the real world, nothing in the virtual world. Must be very depressing.

I can understand why providers, particulary FBSM providers, are sad the other site is gone. It was a good place to advertise and get clients. FBSM providers were notorious for having fake and/or inflated reviews on the other site.

Guys, get a life, if you can. Hobbying should just be an adult fun diversion now and then. I actually think from a hobbyists perspective, the shutting down of that other site will be a good thing going forward. That site became mostly a social forum, with hobbyists getting "pats on the head" from providers for posting and submittting fake and/or inflated reviews, and providers getting "popularity points" from hobbyists for getting those "pats on the head". As such, the reviews, particularly FBSM, were useless. This TER forum seems more real about the business of hobbying and less phony and less about gaining "social status".

The only drawback I see to the other site going down is the lack of advertising from fresh talent. But they will find other places to advertise, e.g. backpage.com. In fact I found some great new fresh young talent from backpage. New talent will be found one way or another. We will have better reviews and info about providers here on TER. It's all good in the end

alia 675 reads

posted 12 years ago

7 / 21

opportunity knocks

If you are that depressed over it, it's closure will be the best thing for you. Fill that void with something better.

Posted By: oargerela

Questions to all the ladies and gentlemen that has multiple accounts on the other dating sites. It is been over a month now since other site got shutdown and I'd like to know how's everybody doing? don't mind me asking. For me I am having difficulty adjusting how huge the impact of the shutdown effected my hobby, personal and even my professional life, most of you probably move on to better and greener pastures, but seems to me that I am inside a vacuum of life altering state of mind, in other words I'm stuck, our routine daily lives went thru surprisingly without warning take away from us. Like my friends describe it like, we have this colony, one of the best, happiest, successful and fun, a dream world per say that we gather around and all of a sudden someone above us drop some poison gas smack in the middle of it and we all went scattering around in a life changing, survival reactions. we are all over the place, took me long hours, gallons of coffee, sleepless nights, eyes wide shut, fingers numb just to ind my friends, found most of them and lost a few, then I found this place a safe haven for me right now because I see some of the handles and majority are the people I trust and even admired and some considered them a friend even they don't know. But for some reason I am missing something, I don't know what, I'm stuck and need someone to get me out of this mode. Racking my brains out, what is?

Maybe I miss those ads:
-The brilliantly written professional designed, and when you read them you tell yourself I want that
-The individually and creatively assembled with a simple selfie direct, concise and effective marketing
-The one that you ignore and bypass because you notice a lot of designs, combination of upper, lower case numbers that is written in words and the photos are take from a porn site copy, cut and paste in their ads, but went ahead and read it anyway and at the end you ask yourself WT# I wasted my time reading that cr#p
-The one so vulgar you shiver by looking at it

Maybe I miss those reviews:
-The sincerely honest respectfully written conveying the experience the outcome of the date and by reading it gives you the When Harry meets Sally effects
-The one gives a high rating but can not describe the date, except OMG, OMG, OOOHHH, AAAAH damn
-The one so vendictive that did not get what he wants dis respectfull because he went over the boundries and try to justify he is right and really intent to destroy the lady's reputations
-The one so self centered, selfish no clue of understanding, a real emergency, school, children, traffic, other work and has a lot of nerve and have a plenty of time to blame, blame and post flakes, flakes

Maybe I miss just the simplicity of the site, that got it bookmark and when ME and Pete got excited, It's just a matter of touch or click of a mouse, can easily access what kind of date you want, whether you're going for a Black Tie Events, Casual and Sports Date, Fast Foods and Driveways and the one that dares you to risk evrything and she wants you to pick her and you have to pause and think of Forest Gump box of chocolate

I mis those things, am I alone in this, need theraphy, advise, direction or just a simple hugs, probably gets me out of this mode, need input, be respectful please, I'm still depress. JK

Sven 1 Reviews 489 reads

posted 12 years ago

8 / 21

It's called Hope and Change ...

Posted By: oargerela

Questions to all the ladies and gentlemen that has multiple accounts on the other dating sites. It is been over a month now since other site got shutdown and I'd like to know how's everybody doing? don't mind me asking. For me I am having difficulty adjusting how huge the impact of the shutdown effected my hobby, personal and even my professional life, most of you probably move on to better and greener pastures, but seems to me that I am inside a vacuum of life altering state of mind, in other words I'm stuck, our routine daily lives went thru surprisingly without warning take away from us. Like my friends describe it like, we have this colony, one of the best, happiest, successful and fun, a dream world per say that we gather around and all of a sudden someone above us drop some poison gas smack in the middle of it and we all went scattering around in a life changing, survival reactions. we are all over the place, took me long hours, gallons of coffee, sleepless nights, eyes wide shut, fingers numb just to ind my friends, found most of them and lost a few, then I found this place a safe haven for me right now because I see some of the handles and majority are the people I trust and even admired and some considered them a friend even they don't know. But for some reason I am missing something, I don't know what, I'm stuck and need someone to get me out of this mode. Racking my brains out, what is?

Maybe I miss those ads:
-The brilliantly written professional designed, and when you read them you tell yourself I want that
-The individually and creatively assembled with a simple selfie direct, concise and effective marketing
-The one that you ignore and bypass because you notice a lot of designs, combination of upper, lower case numbers that is written in words and the photos are take from a porn site copy, cut and paste in their ads, but went ahead and read it anyway and at the end you ask yourself WT# I wasted my time reading that cr#p
-The one so vulgar you shiver by looking at it

Maybe I miss those reviews:
-The sincerely honest respectfully written conveying the experience the outcome of the date and by reading it gives you the When Harry meets Sally effects
-The one gives a high rating but can not describe the date, except OMG, OMG, OOOHHH, AAAAH damn
-The one so vendictive that did not get what he wants dis respectfull because he went over the boundries and try to justify he is right and really intent to destroy the lady's reputations
-The one so self centered, selfish no clue of understanding, a real emergency, school, children, traffic, other work and has a lot of nerve and have a plenty of time to blame, blame and post flakes, flakes

Maybe I miss just the simplicity of the site, that got it bookmark and when ME and Pete got excited, It's just a matter of touch or click of a mouse, can easily access what kind of date you want, whether you're going for a Black Tie Events, Casual and Sports Date, Fast Foods and Driveways and the one that dares you to risk evrything and she wants you to pick her and you have to pause and think of Forest Gump box of chocolate

I mis those things, am I alone in this, need theraphy, advise, direction or just a simple hugs, probably gets me out of this mode, need input, be respectful please, I'm still depress. JK

oargerela 110 Reviews 476 reads

posted 12 years ago

9 / 21

Re: It's called Hope and Change ...

Appreciate the hugs guys, I'm feeling better already, got it! change is a good, be high stepping again, Thanks. JK

MaliaMason 708 reads

posted 12 years ago

10 / 21

it hasn't been easy

It hasn't been easy for both the ladies or the gents. Hopefully you can find something to fill that void you are now feeling. Just remember how many other sites there are out there and how many ladies there are still out there that you haven't ever had the pleasure of meeting. Take this time to explore and give insight of what you have learned so sites like TER can be FABULOUS!

Keep in mind, Rome wasn't built in a day and that seems to be the expectation which is not realistic.

- Mali

Skyfyre 571 reads

posted 12 years ago

11 / 21

Re: LOL

Don't know about those guys you mentioned (I'm not any of them) but participating in the forum was only for a little fun to me and it wasn't that big a deal. What I missed most is the Classified Ads where hundreds of ads appear everyday and always some interesting new talents to be discovered. It was a lot more about real infos (Ads and reviews plus tips) than chatting and bantering that I'm most interested in

catlover 521 reads

posted 12 years ago

12 / 21

Re: opportunity knocks

+100000!
EXACTLY!

Posted By: alia

If you are that depressed over it, it's closure will be the best thing for you. Fill that void with something better.

Posted By: oargerela

Questions to all the ladies and gentlemen that has multiple accounts on the other dating sites. It is been over a month now since other site got shutdown and I'd like to know how's everybody doing? don't mind me asking. For me I am having difficulty adjusting how huge the impact of the shutdown effected my hobby, personal and even my professional life, most of you probably move on to better and greener pastures, but seems to me that I am inside a vacuum of life altering state of mind, in other words I'm stuck, our routine daily lives went thru surprisingly without warning take away from us. Like my friends describe it like, we have this colony, one of the best, happiest, successful and fun, a dream world per say that we gather around and all of a sudden someone above us drop some poison gas smack in the middle of it and we all went scattering around in a life changing, survival reactions. we are all over the place, took me long hours, gallons of coffee, sleepless nights, eyes wide shut, fingers numb just to ind my friends, found most of them and lost a few, then I found this place a safe haven for me right now because I see some of the handles and majority are the people I trust and even admired and some considered them a friend even they don't know. But for some reason I am missing something, I don't know what, I'm stuck and need someone to get me out of this mode. Racking my brains out, what is?

Maybe I miss those ads:
-The brilliantly written professional designed, and when you read them you tell yourself I want that
-The individually and creatively assembled with a simple selfie direct, concise and effective marketing
-The one that you ignore and bypass because you notice a lot of designs, combination of upper, lower case numbers that is written in words and the photos are take from a porn site copy, cut and paste in their ads, but went ahead and read it anyway and at the end you ask yourself WT# I wasted my time reading that cr#p
-The one so vulgar you shiver by looking at it

Maybe I miss those reviews:
-The sincerely honest respectfully written conveying the experience the outcome of the date and by reading it gives you the When Harry meets Sally effects
-The one gives a high rating but can not describe the date, except OMG, OMG, OOOHHH, AAAAH damn
-The one so vendictive that did not get what he wants dis respectfull because he went over the boundries and try to justify he is right and really intent to destroy the lady's reputations
-The one so self centered, selfish no clue of understanding, a real emergency, school, children, traffic, other work and has a lot of nerve and have a plenty of time to blame, blame and post flakes, flakes

Maybe I miss just the simplicity of the site, that got it bookmark and when ME and Pete got excited, It's just a matter of touch or click of a mouse, can easily access what kind of date you want, whether you're going for a Black Tie Events, Casual and Sports Date, Fast Foods and Driveways and the one that dares you to risk evrything and she wants you to pick her and you have to pause and think of Forest Gump box of chocolate

I mis those things, am I alone in this, need theraphy, advise, direction or just a simple hugs, probably gets me out of this mode, need input, be respectful please, I'm still depress. JK

Victorygirl 614 reads

posted 12 years ago

13 / 21

Re: it hasn't been easy

I am doing even better without it. I never relied on other sites for advertising and now I see it pays off. I do miss the one stop shop aspect of it. I am guessing a new site will be created in no time. This time OFFSHORE.

Posted By: MaliaMason

It hasn't been easy for both the ladies or the gents. Hopefully you can find something to fill that void you are now feeling. Just remember how many other sites there are out there and how many ladies there are still out there that you haven't ever had the pleasure of meeting. Take this time to explore and give insight of what you have learned so sites like TER can be FABULOUS!

Keep in mind, Rome wasn't built in a day and that seems to be the expectation which is not realistic.

- Malia

angel32 See my TER Reviews 653 reads

posted 12 years ago

14 / 21

Things always change. I am use to it

It is unfortunate that we are always having to work around the haters trying to make it hard for us. That site did help a lot of people. As for me I am a surviver and had to start over a bunch of time in my life. I am doing pretty good but miss everyones post on the other place. I am hopping to reconnect with people here. I am happy to be able to have this message board.

I have been in the industry for a while and had to learn different ways to work. It is not an easy job but someone has to do it. lol I know that site made it easy for the hobbyist to know who was legit or not and give guys an indication on what they where getting in to. It is unfortunate that a place that kept a lot of us safe is not around.

The banks are hating on us. A lot of people still hate and stigmatize us. We still live in a puritan society that is very hypocritical. You would think by now that people would get a clue. The industry is not going to go no where. If they continue to criminalize and stigmatize us it will be unsafe and girls will still be trafficked.

I already have seen some familiar handles and glad to see your posts. We have to be grateful that we have the erotic review. There are going to be other sites. Us providers might have to invest more money but it might work in our favor. We just have to work harder now. Life is about challenges. We have to try different places and see what works.

There are places like erotic review that have reviews too. It is not going away. I had a lot of people trying to scam me and flakes the first week but now I am fine. I am just at the computer more and more on my job. Well good luck to everyone. I know a lot of people are sad to see that site go.

OXOXOXO

Angel Monroe

george.prvt 1 Reviews 440 reads

posted 12 years ago

15 / 21

Re: it hasn't been easy

You're right, OFFSHORE is the key. For example, P411 is Canadian, which is great. I'm just surprised more providers don't use it. TER I presume is offshore from the S.A. designation in the corporate name.

awb 391 reads

posted 12 years ago

16 / 21

Re: Things always change. I am use to it

Angel:

Thanks for the prospective, it is good to hear from the provider side. Good luck with you new personal site and things will work out.

kenny_starr 76 Reviews 398 reads

posted 12 years ago

17 / 21

Re: it hasn't been easy

TER is owned by a foreign company. I think they are based in the Netherlands. If you look at the VIP pay by money order, the pricing is in Euros and the address you send the payments is in Germany. TER used to be based in the good ole USA, but the owner sold the site to the Europeans.

Some ladies don't like P411 because it is associated with some recent busts. It happens, someone gets busted and turns their info over to LE to use so that they can save their ass. Before anyone freaks out about it, the same thing happened over at our now departed site on at least 2 occasions. One was a Charter Member, the other a well known provider.

Redball 379 reads

posted 12 years ago

18 / 21

Re: Things always change. I am use to it

That "old" site was my life! I haven't been the same without it, I miss putting people down on a daily basis, Without that site I've had to get a dog, so I can kick him on a daily basis.

Posted By: awb

Angel:

Thanks for the prospective, it is good to hear from the provider side. Good luck with you new personal site and things will work out.

angel32 See my TER Reviews 425 reads

posted 12 years ago

19 / 21

Re: Things always change. I am use to it

Lol that is one thing I do not miss about that site the provider bashing. That was one reason why I stopped posting so much but only private forums. I try to stay away from negativity. I did not mind so much when I was new and fresh because I won most the arguments but my maturity has changed me. Things like wining a argument is no longer important to me

harmonica 345 reads

posted 12 years ago

20 / 21

Moving on, and I miss these too

The Medical Forum, those funny unfortunate accidents and health and medical conditions, someone asking and giving medical advises, self diagnosis, self surgery, self mutilations and medications, some successful, some wind up gotten worse, and I asked myself why the heck he/she doing that for, I miss reading those too, always LMAO and makes my day.

The Ladies Gossip Forum: That I have to look around before I click in and make sure no one is around even I'm by myself, check out what the ladies were talking about, all the issues that relates to women, children and families, smart conversations amongs themselves, solutions and advises, hugs, kisses and tears and laughter, have all the freedom to share anything, issues that a man have no idea at all, like pregnancy and child births and others, their problem, their celebrations, all the screwy guys the happen to meet, so informative, I miss those too, gives me smiles and bursting with laughter and makes my day.

crazyshit 332 reads

posted 12 years ago

21 / 21

You have two choices, really.

Learn to use the sites that exist.

Or...start your own site.

The other site is gone. It's not coming back. You want the old site? Start a new one.

TER has existed for over a decade and it is a good source of info for many things related to this activity. No, it is not the same as the dead site, and some things are better and some are worse. The board fights, flamewars and trolling on TER boards get old.

Not every review or reviewer is dependable. Find reviewers who share your tastes and SHARE info with each other via PM. I have a small lost of hobbyist/clients that share my tastes and whose reviews I read. TER can be super helpful. But trusting it blindly is not a good idea. Like anything, the site can be gamed and arbitraged.