From another post:

>"Yet Another One Bites the Dust
Why bother at this point?,"

Let's see you tried boards #s 1 and 2 to replace the defunct board. So now on to board 3 to replace a defunct group that was never worth a shit to begin with?

Providers are crying like babies because the review standards are higher here. WAWAWAWAWAWA.
There are no girls higher than a "7" on these prostitution boards. If you were that good you would be making millions as supermodels.

Weak minded sissified men are pissing and moaning like little girls because they can't find ads for those pimped out drug addicted street whores willing to give $60 blow and go specials.

There will always be trashy girls for cheap blue collar types who can't afford real escorts. Those types don't hang out on Eros or TER. Deal with it.

Other men are crying like babies because their power on the defunct group has been taken away. No longer will they be able to get discounts and freebies for writing grossly inflated reviews.

I guess the girls will just have to elevate their presentation and services to "Classy Call Girl" levels. Those who can't will end up fucking bums and derelicts picked up in seedy bars. They will be having sex on filthy dirty bar room floors at street prices.

It's amazing how you keep polluting TER with your crybaby nonsense and yet keep coming back here when your latest board gets shut down.

What a bunch of ingrates!

There is a way to put a board together. I know how it is done. The servers and registrants (owners) would be entirely overseas. I would need a geek to do some coding. I have the connections with people way out of US jurisdiction who have adult web pages. They stay out of trouble because neither the servers nor the owners are in the US.

If I help you do this, will you people pissing and moaning leave TER?  I might help for two reasons. You would collectively have to deplete a small portion of your meager finances since nobody works for free. I would get rid of you ingrates once and for all.

TER is a group for legitimate escorts and guys who are willing to pay for classy call girls. Some of you don't belong here

I'd pay money to get them out of here.  Sick of it as well.  This is an A+ post with an A+++ idea.

I remember when CL shut down, and people moved over to "you know where", the transition was pretty easy, but the community was fierce, and i mean FIERCE. Trash talking, demeaning condescending behavior all over the place. The people from CL came over quietly and adjusted and yes of course there was the usual confusion of site navigation and setting up shop again, amongst the so called "hollier then thou" natives. However, in no time things settled in and people got along. The helpful review system and VIP access perks helped clients and providers feel safe and together again.  

I must admit that this is the first time that i have seen a displaced population complain about the community that has accepted them, but i truly believe that they are not complaining TO the TER community, but are instead simply trying to adjust while complaining amongst each other, since most complaint posts are aimed at the same members of their displaced community. This type of conversation would take place regardless of location, but the very nature of this cyberspace community makes it visible to everyone, including the "holy" natives. As mentioned, there have been attempts to regain that lost community, so it's not like we are really interested on soiling your "holy" ground with our mere presence. These attempts have been thwarted up to 3 times now. See the dedication in keeping our community together? The fact is that it won't be possible now, unless like you mentioned, another person interested in creating the same type of website does so from an offshore account and resides in an offshore place.

I doubt, with your approach, that many people will be scrambling over there to hand you their cash simply so they can step off this site and join the other "Ingrates" as you mentioned. At least TER has some respect in welcoming us by creating new boards and posting useful information for the new comers.  

I have yet to see a new comer right out disrespect the natives of this site like you have disrespected the new comers.  Yes we complain about how things are different, but i believe that is because we feel safe here. It is going to be our new home. So thank you, Admin of TER for welcoming us and keeping the users safe.  
 
I am sure, in due time, as in times past when this sort of thing has happened, we will all get along. I am very much looking forward that.

Well, at least I have the resources to do it. Perhaps you think people will do it for free? There is no other way to do it and unless you have some other guy who does business offshore and has the connections to get it done they will fail or get arrested just like the disgraced owner.

I can assure you that the "disrespect" I have  shown for certain people on the other site is nothing compared to the brutal vicious cyber stalking , inbox harassment and libel I endured when I signed up there in early '07. It was my  *introduction* to the internet. I was too old to have been a part of the internet and no idea what web groups were like. I will  never forgive and never forget the vile crap I endured back in '07.

It's obvious from numerous posts that people want to replicate  the other board. i was just trying to show them how in the hopes they would go some place else.

That was another nice thing about the other site; although we had trolls we didn't have any snobby arrogant trolls.

You refer to the people who have flooded this board recently an ingrates, and you are not alone.  There are a few of you, standing up to opine that somehow, new users of this board should feel gratitude automatically, as if you, or this board, had done something special for them.

This point of view is very self-serving, and undeserved.

You have done nothing for us, Ben.  You have not earned gratitude.  This board accepts new users from anywhere, and is usually, like most internet sites, hoping to drive those numbers up.  This site, for it's 4 new Ads across the entire area per day, and it's various rules weighted against new users, such as the way Reviews are handled, is not really doing the refugees any favors.  You really can't intelligently claim that what is on offer for any wanderer for free is a special favor to the any of us.  None of us have come here to find equivalent functionality or resources, there were a few new boards added, that help everyone, but that also just makes sense with an increase of users for a given area.  The board is barely doing itself any favors, much less the people who came here.

So, sit down Ben, try not to be such a cretin.

Oh, we did so.

Well Ben, you were detested over there and I didn't understand why until now. I'm a bit concerned for your health with all the bile you must be swallowing.  

Tens of thousands of advertisers who unfortunately put all their eggs in one basket have become homeless. You blame us for trying to recreate what we had that worked so well for us and then becoming upset that it didn't work.  800 members in just a few days on one, 200 members on another, a chat room to connect in real time, all shut down leaving us further shell-shocked. We came here in the hopes that we would find another home. Amazingly few, however, given the more than 200k registered advertisers on that site.  

Because I had a review from 2010 and appreciated a site that had forums where I might again feel connected, I did what I was asked to do to be in compliance. Now I have a new member who cannot review me and another member whose review was rejected because it wasn't "explicit enough."  I can't even fathom what that means but understand that even those of us who came here attempting to play by your rules are being driven away because you are making it so difficult to be quickly accepted and successful here.  

Asking people who are trying to keep a roof over their head and food on their table to be "patient" is insulting.  

Glad to know from you (as you have never hidden your feelings) that we weren't welcome here in the first place.  

Please note that I get it that this place isn't going to make exceptions for us and I do understand the need for consistency. I also appreciate the gents who suggested adding more boards for Northern California to accommodate us (even though I still disagree with calling it the CV forum for reasons I outlined in the Suggestion forum).  I also appreciate the lovely xyz23 for being truly helpful and supportive.  

xoxo
Ray

...Hang in there. Things are bound to get better. People that keep at it make it. Like we said way back in my day, Keep on keeping on.  

You have a PM.

  I can assure you that I thrive in a bellicose environment. My health is better than ever. I have had a smile on my face since June 25th.  You conveniently FORGOT to comment on my second post.

"I can assure you that the "disrespect" I have  shown for certain people on the other site is nothing compared to the brutal vicious cyber stalking , inbox harassment and libel I endured when I signed up there in early '07. It was my  *introduction* to the internet. I was too old to have been a part of the internet and no idea what web groups were like. I will  never forgive and never forget the vile crap I endured back in '07."  

I came in peace back in 2-07. It had been about 15 years since I had mongered. I had my head handed to me. If you did not kiss their ass, they were determined to destroy you. They shit on a guy with a *very* respectable amount of discretionary money to spend on providers. I never cause trouble and I don't look for discounts and freebies like they did.

Why should I welcome people here after the beating I took (in the defunct group) in '07?  

I know they were trying to gather information on me. They did not count on the fact that I would simply hire private investigators to gather intelligence. They did not take into account that as they were trying to make me as miserable as possible with their keyboard tactics that (admittedly I'm no match for them on the internet) I would use whatever it takes to win in the real world.

I knew they were under investigation. I just did not know WHEN it was going to come down. I had nothing to do with it but I feel my tax dollars went to a worthy cause.  

In regards to the war started with me in '07, your minions forgot one of the cardinal rules.

“If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared.”
― Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince  

The injuries I suffered in the "defunct group"in '07 were not severe enough!  

Why would they send a Sacramento girl who I know little about to make this declaration? Was this one of the former Mods idea? I never personally attacked you. I only said how I felt about the defunct group as a whole.

BTW: I did ask the Admin to expand the number of groups to the CV. That's what I get for trying to be nice.

LE is not supposed to have sex with subjects, but PIs can. I knew nothing about the internet in '07 but PIs have their own geek squads. I have been sitting on information about people from the defunct group for years.  You never know when you might need it.  

Regardless of what happens, I'll be ( or somebody paid to be) will be monitoring the people from the defunct group. You have to advertise someplace. PIs have no problem with references, job info , P411 etc

I'll cut to the chase. You want a new group but don't know how to set it up properly offshore and stay out of trouble. Since it is not necessary for me to like the people I do business with I showed you the way it can be done. I have no problem being "detested" as long as there is money for somebody in the deal.  

I may rescind my offer because I quickly lose respect for people who are more interested in "cyber-friendships" and popularity contests than money.  

Regardless of who sets up the new group, I'll be there , just not as "Ben_083." You and your friends should have let it go

Ben,

I don't have minions. You don't know me from the other site yet I recognized your handle. I believe were still active there. I was a well-respected contributor because I avoided conflict, name-calling and harassment yet I spoke my mind with conviction. I had well over 3000 posts, was highly rated by the forum users and the top-ranked BBW MILF on that site. I am very sorry you were mistreated but I don't see why that would cause you to hurl vitriol against new arrivals that had nothing to do with your mistreatment and are innocent of wrong-doing.  

Given the vicious glee you spout about food, rent, medical treatment and livelihood being taken away from thousands of women, it is no wonder to me that you were handed your head. You appear to be a mean-spirited person whose posts I will avoid in future.

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For a name like "sexyclassyfun" you sure don't live up to it. I never singled you or anybody else in the original post. It was directed just as much towards the men as the women. I was hoping this group (the SF section) might elevate itself above the level of pimped out trashy hoes that permeated the defunct board.  

I never had my head handed to me like you think. It was me who washed my hands of that board and left for four years.

I never gloated over people who could not pay rent, food etc. Show me a post where I said that. Just because somebody wants to live in a better neighborhood does not mean they wish ill will on people in poor neighborhoods.

This board was fun for all of seven days. Maybe, I get lucky and your next board works out for you.

For a name like "sexyclassyfun" you sure don't live up to it. I never singled out you or anybody else in the original post. It was directed just as much towards the men as the women. I was hoping this group (the SF section) might elevate itself above the level of pimped out trashy hoes that permeated the defunct board.  

There were ten likes to my original post

I never had my head handed to me like you think. It was me who washed my hands of that board and left for four years.

I never gloated over people who could not pay rent, food etc. Show me a post where I said that. Just because somebody wants to live in a better neighborhood does not mean they wish ill will on people in poor neighborhoods.

This board was fun for all of seven days. Maybe, I get lucky and your next board works out for you.

Very true, I am from the other board, but this board is more class and more reliable.

Well stated... For the record I signed up and have been using ter on and off since 2004 getting my first review in 2005. That's ten years coming and going. This system just did not pull in as much business for me personally so I followed the money.  

Africanmilk has her first review as of 2007 that's 7 years ago

I see both sides... but I am a woman and agree with YOU!  
I think MANY providers became coddled and spoiled on the other site. They were not living in the REALITY  of most REAL reviews and message boards... the other board USED to be like this one...  

Till he let the women control the board thru paid ads...  

I think being coddled, and babied was not healthy.... because now look...  

I may piss gals off, but so be it... I do not think this should be run by women, we are providing a service, and its a MAN's hobby...  

can you see a woman hunting with all guys, and she is constantly whining about getting dirty, the cold, having to be quiet, or " oh you cant shoot poor Bambi!"  

Now do you HONESTLY think those guys will change eons and eons of tradition because of a woman? no!  

should they ? no!  

Same here, this is a Boys Club, and if we don't like their rules we do not have to play in their playground..

 
Total thumbs down on this one. I got love for you CK, but really? The service that is being provided by WOMEN'S bodies should be controlled by WOMEN. Not men. Never ever ever. This is what gives life to Crazy propositions like Prop 35.  
Yeah, because men are so in control of women's bodies, they are indeed participating in human trafficking when it comes to two consenting adults. Sounds great and macho until the man has to pay a large fine, register as a sex offender, and face possible jail time while his amendments are being violated.  Man's hobby my ass. This is a livelihood that many woman take seriously. If indeed this sort of arrangement was to benefit men solely, it would have been decriminalized and legalized a long time ago.

Sigh

Very well written! I can't think of any better way to put it. The old-timers here and the new nouveau faux-rich such as Ben maybe exhibiting symptoms of "over-exuberance" but they need to calm down. The refugees here are exactly just that refugees, for now. There is no guarantee whatsoever that they will stay for the long term. They need to get this into their heads: for the moment this is but a temporary stop for some of the refugees.  

The way things are set up here I sincerely doubt there will ever be a sense of community the way it was over there. I used to check in almost everyday and averaged 3-6 posts a day on the old site. Not here!

Sure there were both goods and bads about the former site but IMO the goods far outweighted the bad, especially in terms of hobby 411s. Throw away all the discussion forums and the other site still shines as vastly superior and unequalled as far as being helpful to both providers and clients in finding each others in the hobby

I wasn't talking about TER. I was talking about the secret sites that went up that went up and shut down just as fast. TER is fine. Go stick your head back in the sand.

I think its really funny how some guy can get on here and tell everyone they are ingrates and crybabies but my post gets deleted for speaking up for being a strong woman and being in control of ones own body.  

 
Thats funny, if you dont blow smoke up peoples asses and act hella fake your posts get deleted.  

I will no longer participate here.