I am a staunch republican and dont give a damn what any liberal thinks. I pay my taxes (I would guess a lot more than a democrat pays, but just guessing)

I live by a public high school. I see them bus in a ton a kids. I live in a 95% white neighborhood and yet 35% (the majority) of students are hispanic. I dont really care about that. Now the school is on the No Child Left Behind Shit List and all of us local residents can send our kids to a better school and have the school system bus our kids out to the other schools.

Bus them into our school from CV and IB, bus ours out. Am i stupid or does this seem like a huge waste of our funds?

We live in America where most everything that is done doesn't make sense.
Bussing was done where I used to live in N Cal. It is sad that if you want to live among your own and pay the extra property value to do so, that our governments will still bus the trash to your neighborhood and let them pollute your local schools.
What the Gov doesn't understand is that everything you give to the minorities to help them out, is taken from the people who were already there. I may have made a choice to not raise my kids in the barrio, it takes lots of nerve, and lack of respect for my wishes, to bring the barrio to me.
Of course speaking out on this subject is taboo...Where just supposed to take it.

Well I went to a school the bussed kids from the inner city to my school and It didn't bother me as much as it did my dad and mom.  My parents are both immigrants from mexico and they worked very hard to be able to afford to live in that neighberhood.  So I could understand why it bothered them so much.  Not to sound racist but do you have any idea how much money we spend on schooling a bunch of kids who aren't even legal citizens of this country?  Most parents bust there ass off trying to buy a nice home, in a nice area with a good school for a reason......we don't need the bad reasons being bussed to us!

Well I went to a school the bussed kids from the inner city to my school and It didn't bother me as much as it did my dad and mom.  My parents are both immigrants from mexico and they worked very hard to be able to afford to live in that neighberhood.  So I could understand why it bothered them so much.  Not to sound racist but do you have any idea how much money we spend on schooling a bunch of kids who aren't even legal citizens of this country?  Most parents bust there ass off trying to buy a nice home, in a nice area with a good school for a reason......we don't need the bad reasons being bussed to us!

I will agree that I personally have been a beneficiary of the Bush tax cuts, to the tune of probably over $10K in savings this past year alone.  But I consider it to be ill-gotten gain, because it is being given to me at the same time that Bush is mortgaging the future of the country by spending it on wild regime change adventures for his oil-patch buddies.   So the way that I'll alleviate my conscience is by using these savings to help get Bush out of office.

Oh, and BTW, I agree that our public schools are a fiasco, but that is because leaders in BOTH parties have been craven to special interests, and unwilling to put a merit system in place whereby the best teachers make the most money.  The Dems are craven to the teachers unions, and the Repubs are craven to the religious right who want public funds supporting parochial schools.  This is a clear case of needing to discard the entire system and start over from scratch, in a manner that neither political party can dominate.

-> I am a staunch republican and dont give a damn what any liberal ->thinks.

this is really one of the main problems between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives . Facts are meaningless (with a big mean) to the conservative mindset. that's like saying I don't believe in G*d but the Pope is infallible dammit.



->I pay my taxes (I would guess a lot more than a democrat pays, but just guessing)

That's what you say, but the actions of conservative say  you prefer borrowing and giving their money to Halliburton.

-> I live by a public high school. I see them bus in a ton a kids. I live in a 95% white neighborhood and yet 35% (the majority) of students are -> hispanic. I dont really care about that.
Somehow I think you care to the point of tearing you hair out.

->Now the school is on the No Child Left Behind Shit List and all of us local residents can send our kids to a better school and have the school system bus our kids out to the other schools.

You're a republican and you don't kow "No Child Left Behind" is a red haring. I guess you're not a skull and bones man.

What happened to Equal protection under the law?

->What the Gov doesn't understand is that everything you give to ->the minorities to help them out, is taken from the people who ->were already there.

Do they even teach American History in school here. It doesn't not seem so. Do you know that everything you have was taken from people who have lived here continuously 10,000 year before they were enslaved, robbed, raped, and subject to the first successful ethnic cleansing ever, all for your benefit?  

-> Of course speaking out on this subject is taboo
How is this taboo? Cry baby yeah taboo nonsense.
I remember bussing when I was growing up, I was lucky enough to go to Catholic school but a friend of mine when to a school in an all white area. He wasn't the stereotype conservatives like to hold up as typical. He was just a regular human at a pizza party for the marching band, when he was dragged out and beat to death. Taboo topic indeed. shame on you!

->...Where just ->supposed to take it

When have American Consevatives ever turned the other cheek?

Evidently the tax cuts haven't hurt your local gov't yet. Any tax savings I have seen, have been eaten up by the higher taxes, funds, fees, (whatever they wish to call them this go round) my local gov't has had to impose due to the Fed cutting any subsidies that we  enjoyed previously. Bailouts to some of the largest corporations in the USA did a great job of helping the local economy also. Yeah right!! These same corps. were in the black, yet the fed felt it neccassary to boost their bottom line to help with sending the white collar jobs offshore. The $400 rebate or whatever it was did NOT help our local economy. It helped mainly the credit cards get paid on time.

What you say would be true for most Americans, but not the wealthiest.  That's why I consider it to be ill-gotten gains.

It's amusing to hear the liberal whine resonate so redundantly.  Sounds like reparations are in the air, if we would listen to the hippy one.  Why do we always have to live our lives based on guilt?

Consider the following:

The school system in this country is dominated by unions, and it is not working well, no matter how much money is thrown at it.  Change is needed, and the Democrats will not do it because the unions won't let them.  Don't worry about the religious right, the liberal courts and the ACLU can keep them at bay.

Many Democrats still believe Gore won the election and that the Supreme Court stole it from him, despite the fact that the retrospective media-led recount efforts proved that Bush won by a narrow margin in Florida when all was said and done.

The economy is recovering from the recession that started during the Clinton administration (not after Bush took office as many Dems would like you to believe).

The fact that our brave servicemen and women are in the heart of the Middle East, fighting the guerilla enemy on their own turf, may explain why other American landmarks haven't yet been blown up.

Regime change in Iraq was a good thing.  By kicking Saddam out, the allies basically said they would not put up with having a brutal dictator thumbing his nose at us.

Like it or not, we are in a war with people who will never quit because they are driven by fanatics, and sitting back and taking it will only embolden them to strike us again and again.  We have no choice but to fight fire with fire.

The figure of ~$10K in tax savings (i.e., Bush tax cuts) sounds about right for being in the top 5% of taxpayers.

However, the well-healed wealthy who are really making a "killing" with the Bush tax-cuts are the top 0.1%. I remember reading a tax analysis indicating that the Cheneys (with Dick's ~$35 million 'golden parachute' from Halliburton) would  receive ~$350K/yr in tax savings. Enough for a new top-of-the line Rolls every year.

No doubt these figures will be a much-debated topic in the coming election.

write a check to the IRS, I'm sure they'll be happy to take it back

In fact, The FIRST time Al Queda set up operations in Iraq was after we deposed Saddam, because they saw an opportunity to create a quagmire for us.  Iraq under Saddam was simply a local despotic regime, that was abusing it's own citizenry.  Al Queda was and is the real enemy to Americans.  It is VERY apparent that we let Al Queda's leadership off the hook in Afghanistan and Pakistan by diverting our military focus towards Iraq, and started a war that is about nothing except making the place safe for Bush and Cheney's buddies in the oil patch.  Any weaponry that Saddam actually had, was a threat only to his own people and their direct neighbors, none of whom except Turkey are our allies.  Saddam had already proven that his delivery systems did not substantially threaten Israel, by virtue of a number of impotent prior attacks.  

A real leader knows the difference between impotent posturing (which was all that Saddam was able to do, in relation to us) and a genuine threat, which is what Al Queda has proven itself to be.  Bush has proved that he is all 10-gallon hat and no cowboy (or is that all flight suit and no fighter pilot), by virtue of this ill-conceived war, which threatens to become another Vietnam-like quagmire for us

Here they go again. Can conservatives read minds?


->  It's amusing to hear the liberal whine resonate so redundantly.  

Whine? I lived in the U.S during the 90 AND NEVER IN THE COURE OF HUMAN EVENTS HAS SO MANY WHINED ABOUT SO MUCH, ABOUT SO LITTLE, FOR SO LONG.  Do you remember Hillary killing Vince Foster or Ron Brown or Black Helicopters or U. N. invasions? Rush had you guys pubs in such a knot one of his lackeys even crashed a plane into the white house lawn. Some of you may remember the terrorist attack on the oklahoma federal building by a right winger who had his head filled with that nonsense. Some Arabs and yes some Americans are adversely effected by a crazy talk from a firebrand speaker like Rush,  Hitler, or OBL. So cool it!


->Sounds like reparations are in the air, if we would listen to the hippy one.

No it doesn't. Reparations won't happen in the U.S.  Europe/Canada does this sort of thing. I for one say American  can keep indian land  if you promise to stop whining and continue to gamble. In any case your not in " skull and bones" so it not your call.

-> Why do we always have to live our lives based on guilt?

I've never seen any evidence of guilt from conservatives. I've heard boast but never a regret.

-> The school system in this country is dominated by unions, and it is not working well, no matter how much money is thrown at it.  Change is -> needed,
Easy to say hard to do.

-> and the Democrats will not do it because the unions won't let them.  Don't worry about the religious right, the liberal courts and
-> ACLU can keep them at bay.

This sounds like a OxyContin induced hallucination. Liberal this and Liberal that, everything in the world cause by us powerless meek humble liberals. The FACTS are that some of the heaviest democratic districts have made the biggest changes in their school systems. Adding  privately managed Charter schools like Washington DC and  Detroit.

->Many Democrats still believe Gore won the election and that the Supreme Court stole it from him, despite the fact that the retrospective     ->  media-led recount efforts proved that Bush won by a narrow margin in Florida when all was said and done.

Proves?!? Support?

-> The economy is recovering from the recession that started during the Clinton administration (not after Bush took office as many Dems       -> would like you to believe).

Yeah he's right just review your 401K, is being a hard headed conservative worth 4 more years of declining balances? When you're 65 and there's no SSN?


->The fact that our brave servicemen and women are in the heart of the Middle East, fighting the guerilla enemy on their own turf, may  
->explain why other American landmarks haven't yet been blown up.

Ah guerilla war doesn't work like that. It took 19 guys to execute on the world trade centre.  And they have been busy.

->  Regime change in Iraq was a good thing.  By kicking Saddam out, the allies basically said they would not put up with having a brutal
->  dictator thumbing his nose at us.

You're right but looking like a bully to the whole world may not be good in the long run. Saddam was an evil man I wish George I had never been allies with him.


->  Like it or not, we are in a war with people who will never quit because they are driven by fanatics, and sitting back and taking it will only    
->    embolden them to strike us again and again.  

We are at war with fanatics let's not help them recruit more fanatics. No one said we should sit back. We have to use are military might at the right targets. Command and control of forces is just as important as firepower. I'm not for Hitler or nazi but history points out how Hilter again and again made awful strategic mistakes that made it impossible for Germany to win. He "blew up" lots of stuff and still lost.

How good is your intelligence?  How can you say with conviction that Al Qaeda never set up operations in Iraq until we deposed Saddam?  Oh, I guess you believe Saddam!

I don't have the time to waste delving into this further except to say it's amusing to see you admit that you think Gore won the election.  As far as support for the ultimate facts, do an internet search on the media consortium that conducted the recount on its own.

Disliking an outcome does not make it historically incorrect.

And the country's 410(k)s were well on their way to tanking before the election was even over, especially if they were heavy in tech stocks.

Clinton/Gore recession, don't forget it.

Well, isnt this a hotbed of political rhetoric from both sides of the aisle.

Again...I am a republican, I dont believe in many things the dems believe are important. I believe Al Gore is a Christian man, and a very good man, perhaps better then GB. But I would NEVER vote for a Democrat for moral reasons. I am very glad I can say that and not be too concerned (actually I couldnt give a shit) what the few vocal liberals in here say, it is a free country.

I served my country in war. I was there at ground zero helping, I was at Santana High and Granite Hills. Also, I volunteered at Childrens hospital at night in ICU for a year just to help out, even with my own kids at home. I make a lot of money. I was raised a poor farm boy in NC, yet I have risen above all that. I did that with democrat and republican presidents. So I think I can say what I want and tell you liberal guys that I think you are full of shit...go put on a uniform and get shot at for a while before you beat me up. If you have served, then God bless you and damn right you can speak out and say anything you want, I just wont agree with you.

Honestly, I really dont think the president has that much power anyway. ALL POLITICIANS ARE CORRUPT IN SOME WAY OR OTHER. Our economic woes are usually due to Congress anyway.

But, Think about this...why do I have to pay so much in taxes and yet I get the same exact benefits you do who make far less than me. Hell yes the top 0.1% should get the bulk of the tax cuts, they pay most of the taxes. The way you democrats talk I should just fork over all my money to the poor and let the government level the economic playing field so we are all the same...that is communism my friend, and that aint happening on my watch. I'll leave before I let that happen.

BTW...my money is on GB in Nov. I bet he wins. I really wish the democrats could come up with a good candidate. Kerry is not it, sadly. Stick all that in your hat!

Yo hippy man, it isn't 4:20 all the time...get a clue.



What the Gov doesn't understand is that everything you give to ->the minorities to help them out, is taken from the people who ->were already there.

Do they even teach American History in school here. It doesn't not seem so. Do you know that everything you have was taken from people who have lived here continuously 10,000 year before they were enslaved, robbed, raped, and subject to the first successful ethnic cleansing ever, all for your benefit?  




Uh, were talking about present day issues,, Think a little... The benefit the minorities receive from bussing comes at the expense or "taken" from the local kids whose school is being invaded. The childrens parents who have special levy's added to their property taxes to help pay for extra trailors to house the new students, books, transportation ect...Plus the crowding of classrooms, the slowed down learning process. What about peoples wishes to install their own ethnic belief systems, that is being watered down by adding other ethnic groups...
Why you have to go down the indian road? self serving perhaps??
All the computers, cars, electricity were taken from those who were here before us...LOL...

Sorry about your friend...

After 9/11, they simply changed the way that they would sell the war to the U.S. Public.  That's info from someone who was there in the meetings - Paul O'Neill.  And nobody from the Bush Administration has even bothered to deny it - they only protested that O'Neill released classified info.

Bush's own intelligence sources have confirmed that Saddam and Al Queda hated each other and were NOT working together.  Face it, you, like the rest of the American Public has been lied to on this issue.

Bush will go into the trash bin of history with Rutherford B. Hayes as an illegitimate leader who was a disaster for the nation.  Fortunately, we can insure that it is merely a 4 year long disaster.

This recession may have started under Clinton, but it was undoubtedly exacerbated and lengthened by Bush's absolutely disasterous deficit spending policies.  But that's OK, he's got Homos to persecute, so to hell with the economy and jobs.

BTW, Bush is the most Liberal spending President in U.S. history.  He has done more to INCREASE taxes for the next 25 years than any Democrat ever did.  His budget GUARANTEES us future tax increases, but without any Government services to show for them.

And, Unlike Kerry, who "put on a Uniform and got shot at", Bush was busy skipping out on his cushy and safe duty in the Alabama National Guard, obtained because daddy the Congressman made a phone call.  Bush was also busy being a drunkard and a cocaine addict at the time (which, admittedly, he's kicked - thank goodness).  But the brain cells he killed at the time still rear their ugly heads all too often.

BTW, in Kerry, the Democrats came up with a candidate who has more character, more brains, and more integrity than Bush, by a country mile.  And in November, he will have more votes, and more electoral votes.  LOTS more.  And I'll stick that in my hat, thank you very much.

sdstud...now that is a good response. I agree with almost everything you said.

Kerry is not all he seems to be either. His war record is verifiable and I commend him on it. I agree about Bush's service and stated that when the election was on back in 2000. Kerry is not a good leader. His decision making record is VERY suspect, as are his campaign contributions. But then, I think all of them are crooked anyway and that I believe is the main reason no good candidate will ever run for office...he wont win. Like I said last time....I wish we had better choices.

I think you are very wrong about the winner in November...polls show GB is still leading even with all the stupid mistakes. But, I am glad that it is only Kerry now. Maybe now we can see and hear more about him and what he stands for (because he aint said shit so far).

10 bucks says GB wins. You on?

Uh.......

"(CNN) – Experts hired by The Miami Herald and USA Today conducted a comprehensive review of 64,248 "undercounted" ballots in Florida's 67 counties that ended last month. The count showed that Bush's razor-thin margin of 537 votes -- certified in December by the Florida Secretary of State's office -- would have tripled to 1,655 votes if counted according to standards advocated by his Democratic rival, former Vice President Al Gore."

As for 401K values, yep...mine did drop a lot at the BEGINNING of Bush's presidency.............HOWEVER..............they have regained the losses in the last year or so. So my potential lost value is NOT the fault of GWB, rather "Bubba" Bill and "Rev." Al.

And let's see......persecution of "homo's"....how's that? Oh, by proposing an ammendment that sanctifies marriage? How's that persecution?

I don't favor an ammendment to the constitution, however, I don't favor "marriage" being applied to gays. Domestic equality is fine, but marriage is (according to the majority) still a man & woman. Now if you think that's persecution, well....just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we all aren't ou to get you........

Where is there a constitutional guarantee for marriage? Realistically, marriage licensing is nothing more than a revenue generating scam for the government. In past centuries, marriages were always sanctified by the church, there were no licenses. But, like drivers licenses, in an attempt to "protect" society, the scam was perpetrated to license (actually extort money) for marriage.

Just like the arguments that favor legalization of drugs and sex, if it's legal you can tax and regulate it.

As for the rest of your whiney, liberal claptrap....whatever....

There were very substantial allegations of voter fraud in Florida by thousands of people in minority communities who claim that they were denied the right to vote at all.  The court cut short the hearings on those issues, and those people's complaints were not considered in the Miami Herald recount.

The fact is, you can claim Bush was legitimately elected all you want, and I can complain he was not, all that I want.  Neither will do a damn thing, so we can merely let history decide.  I am quite confident that Bush will join Rutherford B. Hayes, Warren Harding, and Herbert Hoover in the dustbin of the worst-ever Presidencies.  And that will be that.

As for Bush persecuting gays:  1st of all, The U.S. Government has no business SANCTIFYING marriage.  That is a function purely of religion.  Our government is designed to stay completely out of matters of god and religion.  And 2nd, That ammendment does nothing of the sort in any case:  what it DOES, is specifically EXCLUDE any same sex couples from committing to each other in a loving and stable relationship.  NOTHING else in the U.S. Constitution is EXCLUSIONARY and DISCRIMINATORY.  As such, that amendment would essentially desecrate an otherwise laudible document.

Gays cannot have domestic equality if the state is issuing marriages to straight couples, but NOT to gays.  To quote the Supreme Court in Brown vs. the Board of Education of Topeka KS:

Separate but Equal has been proven to be inherently UNEQUAL, and thus has no place in our society.  I agree, there is NO constitutional guarantee of marriage.  But there IS a constitutional guarantee of equal protection under the law.  As such, once the state gets INTO the marriage business, it cannot descriminate.  So the only constitutional solutions would be:

1) get the state OUT of ALL marriages, and ONLY issue domestic partnership licenses, to both gay and straight couples

2) Have the state issue marriage licenses to ALL couples in a non-discriminatory fashion, or

3) Desecrate the Constitution with a bigotted, discriminatory amendment.  

Bush wants #3.  Which I consider to be completely disgusting and I wouldn't vote him sewer commissioner (well, maybe I would, if only he'd run for it).

And as for the economy - Bush is a LONG TERM catastrophe, as well as a short term one.  He is the ONLY President to preside over a net loss of jobs since Herbert Hoover.

Good posts and I agree with you.  Do you notice that the so called liberals start name calling when they can't defend their arguments?  This just proves who the real idiots are...

A little back ground -  in 1969 I was faced with either being drafted or volunteering.  I was against the war but not against my country.  I was brought up duty to my country was not something you did when convenient.  I joined the Coast Guard.  I served a little over 6 years and saved some lives along the way.  Those who claim I went AWOL just because I didn't get shot at in Vietnam can kiss my ass.  You try flying an aircraft in hurricane winds just on the chance you might find someone out there.  

Now where are the liberals on our former President who almost fled to Canada to avoid the draft?  Out is it just another case of depending what your definition of is is?

I supplied a vlaid link to a recognized media resource.

You are challenged to support YOUR claims with a comparable reference.

If you cannot substaniate your assertions with verifiable, reputable sources (and personal websites, as well as political opinion websites are NOT reputable), then you have no credibility and all you are expressing are extremely biased opinions.

It's obvious you have a neurotic hatred of the president, back up your claims.

US Constitution, Article IV, Section 4:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union
a Republican Form of Government," this REQUIRES the president and congress to intervene, to protect the WILL OF THE PEOPLE of the State.

US Constitution, Article IV, Section 1:
"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the
public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof." This requires that marriages be valid in ANY state, which conflicts with Section 4.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Frankly, I haven't the time, nor the inclination to bother rehashing this stuff again here.  Those are 3 year old issues, and frankly, if you want to go see documentation, go look them up yourself, I'm not your damn librarian.   I'm not trying to persuade you why Bush's election was illegitimate, just explaining to you why you'll NEVER convince us otherwise.  

Go do some research.  And if you disagree, that's your prerogative.  Meanwhile, we'll just dump Bush in THIS election.

And, BTW, the problem is, that the right of privacy and the denial of equal protections IS among those whose abridgement IS prohibited by the 9th Amendment.  At least according to EVERY decision of the Supreme Court in the past 50 years.

The reason that the right wing wants a Constitutional Amendment is that OTHERWISE, they have no grounds to deny gay marriages.  No less an authority than Antonin Scalia said as much in his dissent in the recent Texas Sodomy decision.  Scalia admitted that THAT decision put the court on an irrevocable path toward allowing same-sex marriages, absent a constitutional amendment.

And, BTW, my hatred of this president is real, but it is not neurotic.  It is based on the fact that he is a disaster on social policy, a disaster on economic policy, and a disaster on foreign policy.  He has made this nation MORE susceptible to future catastrophic terrorist attack by pissing off all of our allies, who's cooperation we will need when Al Queda gets their hands on a nuclear bomb, or a significant supply of Sarin gas.  He has destroyed the foundation of our economy for a generation with the worst deficit spending in history, and in addition to that, he wants to creat a religiously driven society and roll back all of our civil liberties.  That is more than sufficient grounds to view his defeat as the single most important thing that can happen for the benefit of this nation.


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I agree with JC1, because a bad dem like Clinton can win on a fluke (Perot...) and make a mess of things. I really wish the dems had a decent candidate. The only halfway decent dem candidate that I can think of since Truman was Paul Tsongas (who was NOT that great, but less bad than the others), but he had no chance politically nor was his health any good (he died shortly thereafter).

Having said that, I am extremely disappointed with Bush's weakness, and lack of initiative on so many issues. He's also MIA on many legal fronts, like the marriage nonsense going on in SF, the Boy Scouts getting kicked out of Balboa, the borders especially now that we were attacked, etc..

I am also afraid that because of Bush's apathy, it may not make much of a difference who is in office at this point.

Unlike our President, who couldn't be bothered to actually show up for 5 months of his Alabama national guard duty.  

And, BTW, where I am on Bill Clinton, is that I'm not voting for him, just like I'm not voting for George Dumbya Bush.

The gravest threat George Bush ever faced during the Vietnam War was a field sobriety test after being pulled over for a DUI.

"Do you notice that the so called liberals start name calling when they can't defend their arguments?  This just proves who the real idiots are..."

So you're a liberal? or?  I'm TOTALLY confused now? Were you calling the liberals idiots, or???

I'm sorry, I was TRYING to follow along, but I'm also trying to decide whether or not to fish with live bait or lures this weekend, so I guess I just wasn't paying close enough attention to the point you were attempting to get across with that statement about namecalling.  Or is Idiot a term of endearment? LOLOL  

Anyway, THANKS a bunch for the giggle.  I'm really not into the debate thing right now, Saving that up for graduate school~~I'm hoping I'll need it!!  

LOLOL that TRULY was the best Two lines I've read all week, CMDR.  Sometimes I really do wish I was dating VIA the escort advertisements!!!  You guys are so very interesting.  ALL sides.  ABSOLUTELY interesting!!

My only regret is being vertically challenged!

DAMN... did you guys even notice?? ANNA IS BACK!!! BIGGEST GRIN!!!!!

Elise [email protected]

It appears as though someone forgot about the scuds that hit Isreal in the first gulf war.

As such, it was the type of attack that didn't actually represent any kind of genuine threat to Israel's security, and was far inferior to Israel's ability to inflict damage on Iraq.  Sorry if that was too subtle for you to figure out.  Perhaps If I drew a picture with red crayons, you'd have grasped it.

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Since some of the scuds did hit, I don't see how they were impotent. And, since we know that Sadaam used chemical agents on his own people, what would stom him from use on Isreal? Do you really have immediate access to a red crayon? Is it in your pocket protector? Do you use it on your magna doodle? Bwahahaha!

The most damage any of Saddam's scuds ever caused was no worse than any single one of the suicide bombers have been inflicting to Israel on a weekly basis.  And Israel had already shown that they were MORE than capable of inflicting far more severe harm on Saddam than he could on them, with a single precision bombing raid that completely wiped out Saddam's nuclear program.  The only reason that the Israeli Air Force did not wipe Saddam out after those scud attacks is that the U.S. begged Israel not to retaliate, because it would have emabarrassed the Saudi's out of the coalition that Bush I had put together for the 1st Iraq war.

As for red crayons, you can get them in any toy store.  I am used to buying them for a small child already, so it would be no different buying them for you to play with - although the 5 year-old I already bought them for seems quite a bit more mature and creative than you.