San Diego
See your point
* you mentioned you cancelled twice for legit reasons. To a provider that spends a lot of time getting ready, likely significantly moved around her schedule to block off the time, and may have even declined other clients, you need to realize the significance of you canceling - even if you view as legitimate. Did you offer to in some way make it up or compensate her for this? * related, it's easy for us to view our reasons for canceling as valid, while someone else as being careless and insensitive. * I love the women that I have met in the hobby, but the truth is for some of them, running a business is not their strength. That is why several will have an asst to manage the logistics. I do agree that those who are great at running the business have an advantage over those that don't, but the truth is a chef that is truly exceptional will have a successful restaurant even if the struggle with running the business. * I am shocked that you would do a 36 hr date with someone you haven't previously established a connection with. And to be honest, I am surprised the provider would do it too. To be honest, that is an amateur mistake. * what I have learned through my own trial and error process is you need to manage the communication process better. Once I agree on day/time with provider, I let them know i will follow up day before and then 2 hrs before appt. we confirm best methods of contact, as well ad backup plans. I make clear that if I don't get confirmation from them, I will assume it is cancelled. * it always helps to have a back up plan. 
Shit happens. But, you can still find a great date if prepared. It can be a regular or just someone that you have established contact with and indicate you might want to make last minute plans with and are they available.
Shit happens. But, you can still find a great date if prepared. It can be a regular or just someone that you have established contact with and indicate you might want to make last minute plans with and are they available.
All these single events are not really that big in themselves, they just happened close to each other which made it difficult for me. I knew the 36 hour girl very well. She called me everyday for 5 months. You do the math. That makes it hard to just leave. I am big on confirmation and hold it as a priority. I always confirm heavily. None of my cancels were day of, in fact one was a month before. I have been canceled on in Vegas numerous times and I have never had a problem finding a "back up". It's just the nature of that town. Boss was probably the wrong word. I know what they offer from this site so her body, her rules sort of does not apply. Conversely I have been bossed and ruled around by a non dom provider so much that I asked her to sleep on my couch (she got drunk). I was spun up when I started this thread. Too much crap in too short of a time. Thanks for the advice though. I like your attitude and enjoy your posts.
Todd - I have been there and have been frustrated when the provider goes dark or cancels last minute. But given your decades of hobbying, you of all people should have a process in place to minimize the chance of this occurring. Some quick points related to your post:
* you mentioned you cancelled twice for legit reasons. To a provider that spends a lot of time getting ready, likely significantly moved around her schedule to block off the time, and may have even declined other clients, you need to realize the significance of you canceling - even if you view as legitimate. Did you offer to in some way make it up or compensate her for this?
* related, it's easy for us to view our reasons for canceling as valid, while someone else as being careless and insensitive.
* I love the women that I have met in the hobby, but the truth is for some of them, running a business is not their strength. That is why several will have an asst to manage the logistics. I do agree that those who are great at running the business have an advantage over those that don't, but the truth is a chef that is truly exceptional will have a successful restaurant even if the struggle with running the business.
* I am shocked that you would do a 36 hr date with someone you haven't previously established a connection with. And to be honest, I am surprised the provider would do it too. To be honest, that is an amateur mistake.
* what I have learned through my own trial and error process is you need to manage the communication process better. Once I agree on day/time with provider, I let them know i will follow up day before and then 2 hrs before appt. we confirm best methods of contact, as well ad backup plans. I make clear that if I don't get confirmation from them, I will assume it is cancelled.
* it always helps to have a back up plan. Shit happens. But, you can still find a great date if prepared. It can be a regular or just someone that you have established contact with and indicate you might want to make last minute plans with and are they available.
* you mentioned you cancelled twice for legit reasons. To a provider that spends a lot of time getting ready, likely significantly moved around her schedule to block off the time, and may have even declined other clients, you need to realize the significance of you canceling - even if you view as legitimate. Did you offer to in some way make it up or compensate her for this?
* related, it's easy for us to view our reasons for canceling as valid, while someone else as being careless and insensitive.
* I love the women that I have met in the hobby, but the truth is for some of them, running a business is not their strength. That is why several will have an asst to manage the logistics. I do agree that those who are great at running the business have an advantage over those that don't, but the truth is a chef that is truly exceptional will have a successful restaurant even if the struggle with running the business.
* I am shocked that you would do a 36 hr date with someone you haven't previously established a connection with. And to be honest, I am surprised the provider would do it too. To be honest, that is an amateur mistake.
* what I have learned through my own trial and error process is you need to manage the communication process better. Once I agree on day/time with provider, I let them know i will follow up day before and then 2 hrs before appt. we confirm best methods of contact, as well ad backup plans. I make clear that if I don't get confirmation from them, I will assume it is cancelled.
* it always helps to have a back up plan.
Shit happens. But, you can still find a great date if prepared. It can be a regular or just someone that you have established contact with and indicate you might want to make last minute plans with and are they available.
It was just supposed to be a 60 minute session but because I screwed up and had already had overnights with her, I offered an overnight to make up for it. We did that. Some prescription drugs can really knock you out. I am glad I am not on any anymore. Thus not sleeping through everything
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SoCalDreaming
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First and foremost. Your not the king let alone the boss of any lady in this adult lifestyle.
You may be at home. But here in this adult lifestyle. Regardless if your paying for a *session*.
You don't make the rules. The ladies do.
After reading your whinny post. You come across as disrespectful. A type A kind of guy.
Whom was lucky to even have one of the ladies give him a 3rd chance after he canceled on her twice before...and then doing so again for a 3rd time. And you wonder WHY she got flustered. DUH!!! YOU wasted her time!!!! 3xs dude! Did you even bother to offer her a cancellation fee???
I mean, come on. IF she had done it to you twice, let alone 3xs. You would of wanted a discount. Because in your eyes, your the KING and the BOSS of the women!
(NOT!)
And it's your fault that you booked a 36hr *session* with a previously seen provider.
As you knew what she was like from the the first meeting. She wasn't dumb enough to turn down a *paycheck*... from a guy she surely didn't like. As I'm sure her outlook on your was the same during the first session meeting as it was on the 2nd (36hr) session. She just got tired of your attitude and finally chose to call you on it.
But you knew going in, how she was since you met before. So your at fault. Can't fault her for speaking her mind when I'm sure your disrespect toward women, spilled over into your session.
Now the last and final provider not reply back. Well that seems to be the California norm from (not all) but most providers and hobbyists!!!! So it's no surprise to me that you encountered that.
But then again, perhaps she got wind of all your cancellations and choose to simply not to have her time wasted.
You ought to be a bit more respectful of/to women, here. And a bit more humbling.
It's a privilege to enjoy the company/body/time of all these women, here. It's not a right.
Your not the king nor the boss! If anything, the women are not only the Queens, but the boss, here in this lifestyle. Since you book *sessions* not enjoy *dates* (your words in jest), then all you are, are a paying *customer* to the providers you see. So NO you don't make the rules. Rather you follow them. And those providers have the right to get flustered/decline you as they deem fit. Esp. when you book/cancel on them 3xs!!!
Sheriff MC buries another body in Boot Hill.You may be at home. But here in this adult lifestyle. Regardless if your paying for a *session*.
You don't make the rules. The ladies do.
After reading your whinny post. You come across as disrespectful. A type A kind of guy.
Whom was lucky to even have one of the ladies give him a 3rd chance after he canceled on her twice before...and then doing so again for a 3rd time. And you wonder WHY she got flustered. DUH!!! YOU wasted her time!!!! 3xs dude! Did you even bother to offer her a cancellation fee???
I mean, come on. IF she had done it to you twice, let alone 3xs. You would of wanted a discount. Because in your eyes, your the KING and the BOSS of the women!
(NOT!)
And it's your fault that you booked a 36hr *session* with a previously seen provider.
As you knew what she was like from the the first meeting. She wasn't dumb enough to turn down a *paycheck*... from a guy she surely didn't like. As I'm sure her outlook on your was the same during the first session meeting as it was on the 2nd (36hr) session. She just got tired of your attitude and finally chose to call you on it.
But you knew going in, how she was since you met before. So your at fault. Can't fault her for speaking her mind when I'm sure your disrespect toward women, spilled over into your session.
Now the last and final provider not reply back. Well that seems to be the California norm from (not all) but most providers and hobbyists!!!! So it's no surprise to me that you encountered that.
But then again, perhaps she got wind of all your cancellations and choose to simply not to have her time wasted.
You ought to be a bit more respectful of/to women, here. And a bit more humbling.
It's a privilege to enjoy the company/body/time of all these women, here. It's not a right.
Your not the king nor the boss! If anything, the women are not only the Queens, but the boss, here in this lifestyle. Since you book *sessions* not enjoy *dates* (your words in jest), then all you are, are a paying *customer* to the providers you see. So NO you don't make the rules. Rather you follow them. And those providers have the right to get flustered/decline you as they deem fit. Esp. when you book/cancel on them 3xs!!!
I have been in the “hobby” for decades, and recently I have run into many communication issues, changing plans on me and outright disrespect from providers. I am getting tried of it.
The girls need to understand that we have the money and we are the kings and bosses.
I had scheduled a trip to Vegas and I knew a provider was going to be there so I had scheduled with her 6 or so weeks in advance. I had to cancel with her because my family informed me that they were going to be there the next week. So I canceled ONE MONTH IN ADVANCE and she got flustered with me. Granted, I had canceled on her the two previous times but they were for valid reasons.
So I got Pm’d from a provider who wanted to see me while I was in Vegas and we set plans for her to see me at my hotel. She said “that sounds like a plan”. Then she emails me and says she will only do incall at her house. I hadn’t seen her before and told her that I don’t do incalls on first meetings. She offers to have her driver pick me up, but I don’t like any of it.
I end up having a date with a very nice provider who is very humble, a little self conscious and adores me. It evened out the trip a little.
The next day, from another provider who I had seen before and had Pm’d me before because she knew I would be in Vegas….I met with her for a 36 hour date. She systematically found everything wrong with me that she could. We got separated in a casino and I sincerely wished that we would have not met up again. In 30 years of mostly being single, the aggregate of all the criticism I have ever heard from all the ladies I have seen did not add up to what I heard in those 36 hours.
So I wanted to see a gal this week and asked her when is the best time and she tells me tomorrow. I ask her where and when and no response. So I am sitting here waiting for confirmation and nothing is being communicated.
Bottom line, I know some girls get flooded with messages, but they have to prioritize with their frequent customers (unless they don’t want to see them).
AND, the bigger picture, the girls are running a business. If they want to succeed they HAVE to learn to communicate effectively.
Kaylakat and Sixx are really good at prompt and effective communications, but most gals just suck at it.
The chics need to remember and respect who is in charge here. Somehow through the course of my career I was able to respond to 10’s of thousands of emails and thousands of phone calls. It’s called running a business. Also, many girls will post messages on forum boards before they answer pm’s/emails and texts. That is not right to me.
Hobbyists are the kings and bosses. These are not dates. Freaking internalize it!
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The girls need to understand that we have the money and we are the kings and bosses.
I had scheduled a trip to Vegas and I knew a provider was going to be there so I had scheduled with her 6 or so weeks in advance. I had to cancel with her because my family informed me that they were going to be there the next week. So I canceled ONE MONTH IN ADVANCE and she got flustered with me. Granted, I had canceled on her the two previous times but they were for valid reasons.
So I got Pm’d from a provider who wanted to see me while I was in Vegas and we set plans for her to see me at my hotel. She said “that sounds like a plan”. Then she emails me and says she will only do incall at her house. I hadn’t seen her before and told her that I don’t do incalls on first meetings. She offers to have her driver pick me up, but I don’t like any of it.
I end up having a date with a very nice provider who is very humble, a little self conscious and adores me. It evened out the trip a little.
The next day, from another provider who I had seen before and had Pm’d me before because she knew I would be in Vegas….I met with her for a 36 hour date. She systematically found everything wrong with me that she could. We got separated in a casino and I sincerely wished that we would have not met up again. In 30 years of mostly being single, the aggregate of all the criticism I have ever heard from all the ladies I have seen did not add up to what I heard in those 36 hours.
So I wanted to see a gal this week and asked her when is the best time and she tells me tomorrow. I ask her where and when and no response. So I am sitting here waiting for confirmation and nothing is being communicated.
Bottom line, I know some girls get flooded with messages, but they have to prioritize with their frequent customers (unless they don’t want to see them).
AND, the bigger picture, the girls are running a business. If they want to succeed they HAVE to learn to communicate effectively.
Kaylakat and Sixx are really good at prompt and effective communications, but most gals just suck at it.
The chics need to remember and respect who is in charge here. Somehow through the course of my career I was able to respond to 10’s of thousands of emails and thousands of phone calls. It’s called running a business. Also, many girls will post messages on forum boards before they answer pm’s/emails and texts. That is not right to me.
Hobbyists are the kings and bosses. These are not dates. Freaking internalize it!
-- Modified on 6/9/2014 6:58:35 PM
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Dude, you need to get a grip on reality. My post are far from being contentiousness & anger filled. Far from it. Rather yours are. (funny how you like to turn things around on the women when they don't go your way, or when a woman speaks her mind).
So again, I laugh at your whiny remarks because they only make be proud to be the the outspoken woman I am.
And if my only crime is voicing my opinion sans worrying about appeasing you and posting from a mobile with spell check errors. Well then darlin' I'm doing all right and you've not soured my day. FYI, I'm not the least bit worried about (speaking up & voicing my opinion) as it not being good *for business* and the last thing I'll NOT be doing is STFU on any internet forum.
When may we expect to preview to your next whinny, hooker rage thread? She should probably just read through the entire thread before going into the dreaded and all to familiar "hooker rage mode". There are many providers that like me, the ones that don't should probably just STFU on internet forums. It's not good for their business. I know this for a fact.
How many of the gals that have been around for awhile post contentious, angered fill statements on F forums? Not many and there is a reason why. She should spend more time learning how to spell.
How many of the gals that have been around for awhile post contentious, angered fill statements on F forums? Not many and there is a reason why. She should spend more time learning how to spell.
I never back peddled, I was in a long relationship with that provider. If you have enough common sense to read between the lines, you would see that. I saw her and she finally made closure with me and I am grateful for that. Even though she beat me up pretty badly. I never wished that I would not have seen her, nor did I say that. That trip was rough, but needed. I strive to find connections with providers that I can see multiple times. I don't so much like firsts. You are not me and I am not you....like it normally is with any association between man and women, so no harm, no foul. So why even bother with me? In fact, I have to scour these boards to find someone that I want to see and be with. Over 95% of the girls on these boards I have no interest in whatsoever. I read their websites and reviews and yawn. You have identified yourself in that elite 95% group to me, so you can be proud of that. I still think the cash holder is king. I understand that things come up and she can't or is not ready to serve everything on her menu. But when I fork out cash or make plans only to have plans change, get berated extensively or have to wait for simple communications in a short amount of time all clustered together, it can get frustrating. But you probably don't understand, so leave it at that.
Whoa' there dude...
I DID read your entire whinny thread. (unfortunately). And if anyone went into a *hooker rage mode*, twas you. Not I. I just happen to be a woman who has no issues expressing her opinion with no regard to appeasing you.
What's pathetically funny, is that in your follow up post to (my original post), you back peddled on your own whinny rage against one provider (the 36hr, previously seen) the one you stated you wished you had never met.
You back peddled and you gave her all the praise, and yourself of course. (as that seems to be the theme with you, praising yourself while damning the women for whatever reasons.)
(still shaking my head at not only your whining but your self protest of how many providers like you, yet you seem to bitch about those you've seen more than once).
Dude, you need to get a grip on reality. My post are far from being contentiousness & anger filled. Far from it. Rather yours are. (funny how you like to turn things around on the women when they don't go your way, or when a woman speaks her mind).
So again, I laugh at your whiny remarks because they only make be proud to be the the outspoken woman I am.
And if my only crime is voicing my opinion sans worrying about appeasing you and posting from a mobile with spell check errors. Well then darlin' I'm doing all right and you've not soured my day.
FYI, I'm not the least bit worried about (speaking up & voicing my opinion) as it not being good *for business* and the last thing I'll NOT be doing is STFU on any internet forum.
When may we expect to preview to your next whinny, hooker rage thread?
I DID read your entire whinny thread. (unfortunately). And if anyone went into a *hooker rage mode*, twas you. Not I. I just happen to be a woman who has no issues expressing her opinion with no regard to appeasing you.
What's pathetically funny, is that in your follow up post to (my original post), you back peddled on your own whinny rage against one provider (the 36hr, previously seen) the one you stated you wished you had never met.
You back peddled and you gave her all the praise, and yourself of course. (as that seems to be the theme with you, praising yourself while damning the women for whatever reasons.)
(still shaking my head at not only your whining but your self protest of how many providers like you, yet you seem to bitch about those you've seen more than once).
Dude, you need to get a grip on reality. My post are far from being contentiousness & anger filled. Far from it. Rather yours are. (funny how you like to turn things around on the women when they don't go your way, or when a woman speaks her mind).
So again, I laugh at your whiny remarks because they only make be proud to be the the outspoken woman I am.
And if my only crime is voicing my opinion sans worrying about appeasing you and posting from a mobile with spell check errors. Well then darlin' I'm doing all right and you've not soured my day.
FYI, I'm not the least bit worried about (speaking up & voicing my opinion) as it not being good *for business* and the last thing I'll NOT be doing is STFU on any internet forum.
When may we expect to preview to your next whinny, hooker rage thread?
She should probably just read through the entire thread before going into the dreaded and all to familiar "hooker rage mode". There are many providers that like me, the ones that don't should probably just STFU on internet forums. It's not good for their business. I know this for a fact.
How many of the gals that have been around for awhile post contentious, angered fill statements on F forums? Not many and there is a reason why. She should spend more time learning how to spell.
How many of the gals that have been around for awhile post contentious, angered fill statements on F forums? Not many and there is a reason why. She should spend more time learning how to spell.
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