............first....i know it's been suggested....but it sure would be nice to be able to write reviews on the hobbiest's out there.......but since that's never gonna happen i'll just post something here........

Anyhow......my story goes like this.....
                   I have a "friend"....that i've had the pleasure to meet once before....(not much my type...into drugs and just plain selfish)......I recieved a very short notice from him this afternoon asking if i could get away?....and so of cousre i could.....
..........When somone is unorgainzed it just drives me crazy(and you can only imagine since he's a "sniffer").......he was running late which was fine since i wasn't in any hurry to be on my way........

so.....we get up to the suite and to my surprise he wouldn't just sit and relax to have a drink with me.....He was undressed before i had a chance to even object to him being in such a hurry......so we had our seconds....and seriously seconds....and he was like ....okay let's go.....mean while i had mentioned that most of my "friends" are more into spending some quality instead of just 2 seconds of fame.....he didn't have any problem with the "hi...bend over ...bye "..thing at all....
so.....we get downstairs and can you belive what this pecker head did?....He says alright goodnight....i asked him to walk me to my car since it was dark and he declined....he also added that i'm in one of the most safest places(no place is safe as far as i'm concerened)......Now...let me add....I was having one of my good days which means i felt really pretty and it definately showed....so..i'm walking(can't walk fast enough)to my car and what's behind me? .....a gentleman that is following me...he's just whistling away(i don't think he meant any harm).........and let me add...i'm quite pricey...all of this happened within a 15 min period....what are some guys thinking ?.....I'm still in shock that someone had the pleasure of seeing me and took it for nothing......
I'm not the princess of the world but damnit...you don't just leave a hottie to walk alone at night ....and if i don't have fun the possible chance of me returing is slim..........
Anyways...i thought all of you out there that actually like to have a conversastion with someone you meet would enjoy this...........and also to say thanks to my "friend" for making the date so damn easy...but it'll never happen again.......you should have been more respectful....

Given that you're quite pricey, it may be that for him it was just to get what he wanted and leave.  That in itself is a power trip of it's own.  Because he CAN pay the price and takes it on his own terms.  Sometimes the lable "provider" sucks at any cost.

That story makes me happy that I dont use drugs..What a self centered person ....I haven't been in this hobby that long ..however I have found out that its not just all about"getin off"...I like the whole package ......hell I just love spending time with women.The talking ,laughing,soft touches, admiring the beauty a woman has to offer makes the eventual (act) so much more enjoyable for both parties....somtimes us guys should be greatful that we even get to do this kind of thing ...I feel blessed with the providers that I have seen lately......It has made up for the one (rip off) that i did see

Why didn't you go to the front desk and ask someone to walk you to your car? They may have LOTS of questions, but you don't have to answer them, even if they have the courage to actually ask! Answer every question with a variant of, "it's dark, can you simply make sure I get to my car safely?"

As to the barbarian attitude of your friend... there's not much to add, really. You're reaching the right conclusion in not seeing him again. Just makes more time for ME.

If you're discussing the shortcomings of your clients in general terms on this forum, I'm curious what you're saying about them to others, behind closed doors.........

MfSD.

You're kidding right?!.......First.....don't you know that there is nothing more tacky than talking about one of your "friends" when you're with a friend?....come on!I do have a little more class than that MFSD.....

I don't understand what you are complaining about. If you didn't like the guy the first time you saw him why did you see him again? If he doesn't want to have a drink and relax it's his choice. If he wants to conclude "business" quickly it's his choice. He is the one paying for the time after all and maybe he just wanted a quick fuck without all the contrived romance. As for not walking you to your car, maybe he just didn't want to risk being seen by someone he knew. You seem to want your clients to treat you like a real date, but you seem to forget that you are a hired hand.

And when I saw you you, you were hardly considerate, despite being treated very respectfully and accompanied to your car.

Your manners were not much better than the client you speak of....

I think that's terrible!!  No one should be treated like that.  Not just as a provider but also a person.  One thing I've noticed since moving back to San Diego is people are simply more rude here than a lot of other places in the country.  From service people to people you meet on the streets to people you meet at bars etc.  Nobody here takes the time to say "Hi" or "thanks for holding the door".  New York city gets a bad rap all the time about how rude and cold people are but in my experience the people there are much more friendly and open than here in small town San Diego.  Granted I've only been there 4 times but that's my experience.  

OK, I know saying "nobody" is way too general of a statement, I'll change it to most.

I know if  I ever have the pleasure to spend time with you JENNYSUE that I will show you the utmost respect and be the perfect gentleman.  And you can bet that I will stay for the entire 1 hour 59 minutes and 59 seconds!!!!

Just my 2 cents and my mini rant.  Thanks for listening.

....sometimes it just has to happen!
I'd like to thank all of those who haven't come to my defense.
I do understand all of what's being said ,but have to disagree with most of it.
My point to this post wasn't to get bagged on at all or likewise.
I was simply writing a short "hilarious" but yet at the same time "mind boggling".. story for all to enjoy.
But since i need to defend myself now i'll start like this:
I am an escort and dear god don't i wish that the ones that don't get that could understand the fact.
I am thankful to the ones that do see that it's much more for me than just "dating".....sorry....just a very picky gal...
Some may be the ones who want it and leave...but hey...i like to know who ...and what they like..to have a great time.Call me dumb...but i also enjoy what you guys enjoy!(but i'm also benefiting!!!!!!!

As to ones that have seen me and would say i'm in the wrong just as well as they are...I'M sorry!.....i can bet that if you had the pleasure of meeting me once again you'd be speachless..(NESS)....sorry that you got me when i first got into the biz!

maybe your "friend" and the "gentleman" who was whistling away split the cost of your time. So instead of "someone had the pleasure of seeing me and took it for nothing....." it only cost him half of your "quite pricey" contribution. Just a thought.

Give this one HELL! What the F*CK does she want--a serenade? She got paid, and probably very well at that, so what the heck is she complaining about. If she doesn't like the bleak reception, maybe she should consider getting a conventional job and a conventional boyfriend!

Pecker

it's about time some of you folks began to step up to the plate and dispaly a bit of courage and dignity... not just the let-me-kiss-your-ass-beacuse-you're-a-provider stance. Show her those balls, and support the hobbiests perspective for once! Way to go DerekFisher!

Pecker

This post is strange to me. Jenny Sue it isn't your clients job to keep you safe and I also think that the post itself is rather ridiculous and erratic in it's presentation.
You walked from your car to the appointment alone didn't you?

Valet Parking
Stay on your cell Phone if no valet parking is available.
Be Aware
request that someone walk you to your car on staff.
If you are going ot a residence ask about parking before you go to ensure what the situation is

It's not that difficult to stay safe when goingto your car and given that we it is our responsibility to be discreet insisting that clients attend to this is just not realistic. If it concerns youso much get some peper spray to and learn the basics about personal safety and protection. Not being a victim has some very real basic guidelines that you should know.

JennySue,
I argee this would be tacky and it is very refreashing that you call him (or anybody) on this. people gossip and participate in character assignation,  complete without scruples. I think its a west coast thing. In the midwest or Canada that kind of behavior would reflex badly on the speaker. I don't think this was MFSD intent. I guess I'm saying be polite when you can and lighten up it all tastes all chicken in the end.

I have to be honest with you. You weren't a date. You aren't a love interest for him. You sold your body for a short amount of time to a drug addict. I'm not telling you it's wrong, but "them's the facts." He doesn't respect himself, so he sure is Hell isn't go to respect a provider/prostitute/hooker ... I know that as a person you deserve to be treated like a lady, and I'm sure you looked outstanding that evening. But when you sell your body for any price, you've made yourself a product. I'm not condoning his rudeness, but I think you're decieving yourself if you think "hobbyists" actually truly respect providers for anything more than their services. Because the VAST majority don't. If they honestly did, they wouldn't be fucking you for money. I'm sure they respect your beauty or skill in the sac, but not you the person. If you weren't offering "a piece of ass," you'd just be another hot broad (to them).
So yes, I think the bastard was rude and his conduct uncalled for. But I don't think you should expect more for someone who is, sorry to say, renting your body. Reality bites.

a philosophical "I think too much" response:

I broke down recently and saw a provider I've had my eye on for a while.  Called her up around 6pm, made an appointment for 8:30, all without giving my life's history, any specific request for service, duration or dollar value, etc.  Arrived at her place on time, was immediately beckoned upstairs to the bedroom where after a few minutes of small talk, we started in on the business at hand.  An hour later, I placed an envelope on a desk and walked out the door with a smile on my face, feeling completely satiated and utterly anonymous.

point being, and in response to your story (I love a good story!), compared to dating in my real life and my previous encounters with providers, it was soo strange/different/relaxing to not present an identity, to not have it validated, to not make it an issue during the time spent, and to walk away without a pretense of committment.  This was with a "mature" provider and while the session wasn't mechanical, it was clearly defined by her dedicated years of service and enjoyment of the process.  And rather than being fed a meal, I felt like I was being taught to fish, if you know what I mean.  Those are typically the best encounters.  I left my burdens and expectations at the door, and am still refreshed, if not grateful for the time spent with her.

SO, (1) people who do hardcore drugs tend to re/act in extremes and personally I'd advise not seeing them; (2) depending upon the hobbyist, some encounters might intentionally be requested to be wham-bam-thank-you-mam; (3) dear gentleman, please respect yourself and your partners, for safety reasons always offer to walk the lady to her car!; (4) suggestive whistlers and over-extended ogglers will revel in their anonymity, all the while objectifying and abstracting you, getting themselves off on their perception of you -- don't take their selfish actions personally, and I can recommend a self-defense studio if need be; and (5) if there is an ideal....? wouldn't be it *nice* to have a stable of "friends" who keep at the various distances you prefer and for them to respect you at the same time?  For there to be an exchange of values that leads to a long term relationship?  yeah, well, hmmm.  

Thanks for the story, keep writing, and be safe out there!

fahrkle

Sure you did, that's one reason why you chose to go after my original post. There's nothing wrong with self promotion, you do it on this board, and during your infrequent trips to the LA chat room. But a few good reviews, and a whole lot less controversy would suit your purposes much better in my opinion.

Yea, I recognize tacky when I see it.......... MfSD.

How come you have so many "one in a lifetime"for you reviews ?is it not  in a life time?

...but thanks for your opinions and thoughts......every comment was recongized seriously.

You had already been there once, JennySue.  You had all the information you needed to make the decision NOT to go back, but you did. How would a review site have helped?

Seems like you are the one with no respect for yourself. Why blame Mr. Felonious Behavior for you feeling badly in this situation?  You purposefully put yourself in an environment that was not safe.

Very glad to know that your logic has kicked in and you've decided not to go back for round 3.

I wouldn't classify this thread as an "enjoyable" read, but if you think that it helps your cause; or, if you really thought it was an enjoyable thread to start, thank you.

*smooch*
Elise



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I would argue that a vast majority of the "hobbyists" respect the ladies, especially because there is money for service involved.  (1) this is a business of the soul, not body, just imagine having that type of job for weeks months years on end; (2) without respect, well, dude.

enough numbers:  and I personally have "fell in love" with a provider and I'm sure it's happened to many other men, just read the reviews that glow and gush about ATFs and whatnot.  Just how deep that love is and is it practical or even real, well, that's another story, but it's all based upon respect.  you can't/shouldn't generalize from a secondhand experience about a drugged out guy.  these aren't "facts" just presumptions on your part.

whew, sorry for the semi-rant, but you pressed my button on this one.  be safe out there, fahrkle

I didn't post because i was wanting more than a date....i wasn't posting so i could rant.......i wasn't posting because i was feeling badly....It was none of what (who had negative things to say)has been mentioned. The whole review thing on hobbiest was a cute way to start my thread Elise.I have seen him once before.......he sure didn't bust out his coke and sniff it up his nose the first time(which would have made me not return the second time)we met now did he.Actually .....the first meeting was great(easy)...but great to have me return a second........
....I am well aware of self defense.....but having to think "oh shit"...what if?......there definately will not be a third(3rd times the charm i guess)
My point to this is very simple....has nothing to do with respect......wanting more....complaning...
I'm just used to the "oh that's too much"..or trying to milk it longer than the hour guys here in San diego.....I just thought you tight wads could have enjoyed it but who was i kidding?!....tough crowd to crack!

JennySue, I have had the pleasure completely enjoyed it and want to say thanks.I you have gotten better I find that exciting news because I was very impressed the first time. Can't wait 1152.

Don't be concern about anything Ness and MfSD have to say, they are two of the biggest complainers in San Diego and have been on a black list, longer than you have been a provider. I really like your posts and I agree with you. Enjoy!!!

why I have so many once in a lifetime reviews Nice, but rather why you have none  ( : MfSD.

Making a personal attack on someone instead of the arguments or points they bring up demonstrates a complete lack of class.  Ness and MfSD's arguments, concerns or issues stand on their own and are not related to whether or not they complain or are on some black list.

I like her posts and opinions as well, but making personal attacks on her detracters are not a way to make an argument.

The blacklist is rather amusing to me as well, since I have seen some of the same providers as MfSD has and continues to see in spite of this magic black list.  Does a black list mean that none of the women should see him/them?  Or does this black list provide an accounting of what a hobbiest has done similar to reviews and YMMV?

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I wouldn't think of not accompanying the provider I had just seen, especially if asked, if it was dark or otherwise sketchy as to her safety.  On the other hand I could see how a provider might get a bit nervous if a hobbiest did follow her to her car without asking.  Everyone's safety is important in the encounters we have.  Understanding what one believes is safe is yet another thing.  I'm too big and ugly to worry much about my safety, but then again there is always someone bigger and uglier.  Gee....maybe I should get an escort back to my vehicle in case the provider I just saw has some big goon in the shadows waiting because I didn't leave a big enough time!!!  *apply humor where appropriate*

So it looks like a lot of you have had a lot of fun at Jenny Sue's expense picking apart something she just tossed out there for fun.  Some of you took it the way she meant it, some blew it out of proportion and some were mean spirited assholes.
  I think we should be happy anytime a provider (especially one as hot & talented as Jenny Sue is) comes into this weird little world we have here and take her story the way she meant it.  
  I may be a little biased since I've seen her recently and she is awesome.  She might say she is "pricey" but really-- she's not that much higher than others and she IS remarkable.  As far as I can tell she was just trying to relate an ammusing story and not provide any in depth social commentary.  Some of us need to lighten up a bit I think.

Drop in anytime Jenny Sue!

One also might wonder if there is a "whitelist" of approved hobbyists with personal details.

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If you ever come to my place, I want yo to park in my driveway, and I'll not only meet you at your car, I'll open your door.  Afterwards, I'll walk you out, open your door for you, and make sure you're safely on your way before I go back inside.
To me, if you're coming to my place, that' the least I can do since you're puting yourself in my care when you're at my place.
I won't be able to see anyone until late August at the soonest, but I'm really looking forward to meeting you in person soon!!

Hey thnaks!....

Looking forwars to having some fun alarmin.....
..........Thanks for proving that there are gentleman out here ,to others that think it isn't so.

You called me a "big phoney" a few months back Lauren. Considering that we have never met, and that you don't know any of the ladies that I see in Vegas, you don't know Baylee, or any of the ladies that I see back east, and the only local lady that I have chosen to see in the last eighteen months is Suzanne, don't you really mean YOUR black list?

I don't know you, have never contacted you in regards to seeing you as a client, have no idea whether you have a web site or not, have never gotten any back channel information about you or inquired about you back channel, and I've never checked to see if you have any reviews.

Whatever bone you have to pick with me is of your own creation. Complain.......hardly, my recent sessions, with quality ladies like my fav Baylee, Griff, and Roxy have been fabulous, great parties in Vegas, friends in the hobby, both guys and gals, I couldn't be happier...........on the other hand, you sound bitter to me. MfSD.



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In love... infatuation, in denial... in lust. You don't even know the girl you are "in love" with. You see a side that she chooses to present to you, her CLIENT. A business of the soul? Doubt it. Something tells me that MOST providers, if they truly listened to their souls, wouldn't be providers. You can take that to the bank my friend.