Just wondering and opening a new thread.

When hobbyists ask a question about a provider... and then expect a response from a hobbyist that has never actually seen the provider?

Case In Point:

It appears that Ness has been writing about the APPEARANCE of Mara and Anna.. and he's never actually seen them.

(do a search with him as the author and anna/mara as the subject)

You'll find him speaking with authority regarding their looks and performance. NEVER qualifying the fact that it is only the reviews that he's getting his information from.

Is this what you hobbyists expect when you ask for opinions?  Someone speaking on such authority who has never SEEN the women?

Elise

maybe he has seen them and just hasn't posted a review?

Isn't it possible he has seen them and not filed a review? I have seen a couple which I haven't written a review on.

I do not know why it is such a big deal to you if the I have seen her or not.  Her web site has been verified by many to contain real pics, and that of Mara has also been verified through reliable sources to be real.

http://www.annagfe.net/night_vision.html

In the previous thread, I NEVER atacked them personally, and acknowledge that their reviews uphold the notion that they are very good "providers."... my only contention was that given their average looks, such a price would get you the same or better - and for multiple hours - in tj. If anything, I was critical of the hobbyests for settling like this... it is like complaining about txes and then not voting!  Come on!

If it interests you that much, I have not seen anyone as escorts; but what does that matter, what good are te pics o the site? If people wanted to see them so they would be blessed with a longer life, they probably would not need pictures posted, now would they?

In any event, I recognized one of them roaming the downlton area (I won't get specific which area).. I have also seen two other providers in this area that I recognized pretty quickly: Victoria (victoriasurprize.com) and an italian provider whose name escapes me now - sh had a website and it had something to do with "italy".

Who cares about their appearance. Your'e missing the point. All Ness(I wonder if Ness is short for Nessy?)is saying is that ladies with comprable looks offer similar services for a fraction of the cost. So you say that if he's never seen her, how can he compare her looks with someone else's. If he hasn't actually seen her, then he simply assumes her picture to be a fair representation - which is not unreasonable. Sure, she may look better in person, but for the sake of comparison, it is close enough. There's no need to split hair here; besides, who really cares about such subtle differences.

You know, gang, bottom line,...Who in the frog cares??? If Ness wants to defend Anna's honor, then so be it!! Personally, I really don't see the harm in it. Why must everyone get their knickickers twisted about it!! It is just his own viewpoint. And that is what this board is allegedly about, information and viewpoints so we can all make informed decisions.

I sincerely apologize for my previous post. It was early in the morning, before I was able to get my coffee, and had not yet looked at the other posts to fully realize Ness' intentions. Now that I am clear, I ask...What is the hell up with you, Mr. Ness??  If people are more than willing to see Anna, then why the bother??

I wouldn't trust the opinion of a hobbyist who hasn't seen the provider yet.  For example, as someone who knows Mara fairly well, I can say that you really have to meet her in person to fully appreciate her.  She has so much more going for her than just being a hot Latina.  You can't possibly judge her simply by looking at her picture.  Her 2 hour donation is reasonable for a gfe provider of her caliber in San Diego.  She recently raised her 1 hour donation I suspect because she is extremely generous with her time and some clients were taking unfair advantage of this.  Since she is US citizen living in San Diego and has to deal with the high cost of living here you can't reasonably expect her to have the same donation as the girls in TJ.  Just because she happens to be Latina she should have a lower donation than other San Diego providers?  That argument makes no sense to me.  I can't always afford to see Mara, but considering the quality of service she provides her donation is worth every penny.  Just my humble opinion.

I have to agree with Ness on this one. I checked Anna's website and she does not look like she would warrant such high rates. Looks and price-wise, not only could you do better in TJ, but there are quite a few providers here in San Diego who are better looking with more reasonable prices than Anna. But as previous people stated, perhaps her services are above and beyond others. For the best looking young providers I always go to Los Angeles myself. But while they may be far superior in the looks department, service in LA on a whole is on the whole below average compared to San Diego where the providers overall aim-to-please in order to compete with the ladies south of the border. I for one am sick of the personal flames on this board and wish people would get back to what TER is all about..the posting of information about providers. Just my two cents worth...

I have heard Ness sing the same song board after board... day after day... he is quite predictable. Ness has a boderline obsession with putting others, primarily good looking women, down. He also finds it necessary to constantly announce the fact that his standards (female physique) are higher than the rest of the poor shmucks on the board.

Why?... Derogative comments as to Anna's beauty are not going to receive any applause. Ness knows this..

Nor is someone going to read Ness's  comments and decide " owe gee.. I guess I will cancel my appointment with Anna tomorrow because she's not the goddess I thought she was."

So... Ness wasn't going to help out some newbie who  might otherwise be dissapointed (this is why we love TER...we have a right to warn others when we don't feel a provider has represented herself properly...in these circumstances, therefore, deragatory comments are may be well warranted.)

Why then must Ness continue to speak poorly of these women?  
Deduction...

He unconciously realized at some point that putting others down, especially attractive women to his "buddies" on the board, provides him with a much needed boost to his self image. If the only aspect of himself he is somewhat sure of is his appearance, his justification in  degrading  providers on the basis of 'their" looks makes perfect sense.  

Though I've never been one to involve myself confrontationally or otherwise, I did feel it necessary to share my observations as to the  obvious insecurity issues behind the odd/mean/unconcientous behavior we can always count on Ness for.

Best of luck to all of you!

And yes Ness... "why drive a Buick when you can drive a Ferrari" is a hurtful comment  at very best.

I will continue to post the way things are... and even to some of those that have clintonised my posts... you too may benefit.

Anna can charge whatever she likes but her new photographs are terrible. She is gorgeous! Not fair representations at all. She should put her old ones back up!

Do you want answers about providers from guys that have FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE?

or do you want answers about providers from guys that have

THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION that you HAVE ACCESS TO?

Take away any equation involving ANNA, PRICES, any of that argument.

I'm talking merely about the fact that this person is writing about MANY experiences as if he's actually EXPERIENCED them, rather than stating he is merely giving you his view of information YOU all have access to.

Analogy:

Restaurant Critic that hasn't ever set foot in the restaurant but has read the other Critics reviews,and has seen the menu, He's also seen the "A" from the Department of Health .

How much stock would you put in that guy's Restaurant Reviews? NEVER ATE THE FOOD OR SET FOOT IN THE PLACE? MAYBE DROVE BY?

And Remember, This guy writes as though he DID eat the food.  Never says.. "From reading other reviews"   "From the information that I've seen"  Just jumps right in like he's been there.

Elise

Which old ones? Do you mean the black and white? The only ones I have seen recently are the ones with the fruit. Does she have something newer?

The question, as you pose it, seems to be "What is the value of opinion about a provider from someone who has no direct knowledge of said provider?" and the answer is "Any such opinion is completely worthless".  This board serves a number of functions.  One of the most important to me is the exchange of information about providers.  Information and opinion are not the same thing.  I happen to value reviews and posts which are based on a fact-based interpretation of experience.  I'm not real interested in someone's commentary on photographs.   I recognize, however, that gossip is one of the needs these boards meet.  The fact that it doesn't do anything for me doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.  I just discount it and slide by to something that has some reference to the real world.  Like the facts that Anna is a major babe and you are the best in the biz.  The rest is just people meeting needs I don't happen to share and is pretty easy to work around.  The truth will out and it's not worthwhile getting worked up over others' agendas.

Right on, Elise. You are spot on and hats off to you for persiting. You are one of the real San Diego gems.

As for the whole Anna stuff, let me tell you as one who has seen both Anna and Mara, that the reviews don't do either of them justice at all. Seeing is believing, and in Anna's case particularly, if you were ever lucky enough to take her out on a date, as I have, you would find yourself the center of a lot of attention: she would be a head-turner on anyone's arm. Her smile will stop you in your tracks, and nothing I know compares to her passion and joy.

So... enough of this  ****. Have fun and WRITE REVIEWS. I do, and although this is an alias (unlike Ness, I have seen thses lovelies) I have written dozens. To comment from others does us all a disservice.

I have written more reviews, they were never posted, despite being detailed and following the guidelines. I just gave up. If people want to know of any others I saw that were nice, then I can tell them if they email me.

On a couple of others, they requested no reviews.  Now, Elise does NOT like reviews of herself either... a bit of hypocracy here?

Lastly, Elise's analogy is fundamentally wrong and riddled with logical fallacies. Again, what is the point of placing representative and accurate pics if they are not accurate and representative? EVERY REVIEW HAS INDICATED THESE PICS TO BE REAL AND ACCURATE!!!!!!

I never commented about these provider's service level, which I understand is very good, but rather their looks relative to their price and the availability of like providers south of the border for much less.

THAT IS ALL!!